Want to be a DBA

Hi All,
Currently I'm belonging from Telecom Domain as a Network planning past from 3 Years and having big interest in Databases. After achieving Database certification, I searched for DBA positions and didn’t find many. Moreover all the jobs that were listed there asked for at least couple of years of experience. So from where would the fresher start as you know, for fresher it is very challenging to enter in right doors? ... Well here are my questions…
1)     How I come on the DBA or database developer platform?
2)     What challenges face when I enter in this family?
3)     Can my telecom domain experience countable?
These are few questions that I’m searching at the moment… I would appreciate any kind of make easier in regarding this post of mine. It would help me make a career for myself.
Thanks,
Sachin

thanks 4 all ur posting
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The experience from your second position may look good to a lot of potential employers though depending on the level of detail and amount of non-IT tasks involved it may or may not have been a good learning experience
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this is what I do in my previous company. there are huge amount of non-IT tasks involved i must say.. :
IT:
apps dba (support), contracts
non-IT:
secretarial jobs, purchasing executive, corporate risk management, operations etc
IT dept is rather small, only doing support. all developments are outsourced. then the mgmt sees that IT dept got nothing to do when everything is working fine. maybe these sr managers see IT is only about internet, email and repairing PC..
i really love the job, but concurrently my time was wasted on other things. i cannot claim i have extensive knowledge being apps dba. in the mean time finding jobs as apps dba / dba is hard with minimal knowledge and exp, while devoting most of my time doing those non-IT things will get me nowhere.
i would stay if i could focus being apps dba there. there are tonnes of things to be learned. but sometimes life just pushes your around.. or maybe it's just the taste of life
i'm searching & applying for jr apps dba post, even though i'm new here. not a good attitude though. currently concentrating on oracle collaboration suite, during me free time i will educate myself and prepare for certification. and hopefully will let me get what i want. this is what i'm planning rite know.
i always wanted to be successful in my career. i also have ambition like all u guys do. any opinion & suggestions are most welcome. guidance and ideas etc are very much appreciated. thanks

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