WAP4410 Multiple Wireless Networks

I am wondering if I can make our WAP4410 fall under two ip address ranges. I want to have a network for the office users and one for the guest users. We currently use a Safe@Office500WP Checkpoint router. It allows us to create multiple network ranges. We have the office users wireless under 192.168.0.1 ip range and the Guest Wireless is under the 192.168.200.1 range. Do I need two access points or can this be done with just the one?
Thank you

Wow Christa great question. We see more and more people are trying to do this and this gives me a great chance to explain how to do this. If you already have a WAP4410N, its really easy and you will only need one to do it.
Hi, My name is Eric Moyers. I am a Network Support Engineer in the Cisco Small Business Support Center. Below are the steps in bullet form. I have also attached a doc with pictures as well:
Adding Guest Access using WRVS4400N
Do the initial setup and get the Main network up and running, just as you would if you were not going to have a Guest Access. Now start the process of adding the Guest Account. First go to Wireless – Basic Settings and add your second SSID, then click save.
Now go to Wireless – Security Settings and with the first SSID enable the two Wireless Isolations.
Do the same for the second SSID. Also add whatever security mode you want.
Go to L2 Switch and create the Guest VLAN. Put a number in for VLAN ID and click Add VLAN.
Go to Wireless – VLAN & QOS. Enable VLAN and change GUEST Vlan to the VLAN ID # you created earlier.
Go to Setup – Advanced Routing and Disable Inter-VLAN Routing.
Go to Setup LAN. VLAN 1 should show the setting from your initial setup.
Change VLAN to VLAN 2 and make sure the DHCP is enabled. This will supply DHCP only to the Guest SSID.
This should set you up just like you were asking for, with a Guest Access with Main network using DHCP Server and the devices on the Guest Network unable to access the Main Network.
Please let me know how this goes.
Eric Moyers
Cisco Network Support Engineer
1-866-606-1866

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