WAP4410N WDS not bridging

Hello all,
I have two WAP4410N's that are about 30 feet apart in seperate buildings. I'm trying to bridge them and their wired networks together with no luck.
I would like each to also accept wireless connections.
They are both configured on the same subnet.
I've tried WAP2- personal on both with the same key on each with no luck.
I've tried WAP personal on both with the same key.
They are both on the same channel.
I set both to WDS AP mode, no luck connecting.
They can see each other and obtain each others MAC address in the "Site Survey". But I can not ping across the bridge.
I've tried one as an AP mode and one as a WDS mode, and visa versa.
Do I set the AP Modes of each to WDS?
WIKIpedia says that WDS will not work with a dynamic key, must use WEP.
Is that true?
Wikipedia says they can be different SSID's.
I will try WEP but not happy at all about it.
I wish the admin PDF's were more complete.
Thanks
-heywade

I wish I had read this post before I dropped $$$ on an Airport Express.
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After approx. 1 hour on the phone, Apple Support told me to take it to the Genius Bar @ the Apple Store and the genius would try to reconfigure my Dual Ethernet Base Station so I could at least run Wi-Fi and Built-in Ethernet for my second computer.
In the meantime, I'm using my Airport Express as my new Base Station for Wi-Fi for my MBP.
The bottom line: Dual Ethernet base stations are becoming obsolete as further software updates advance from Apple, and they are WORTHLESS for WDS configurations.
I guess I'm wondering if it is worth it to even have to have the genius reconfigure it - if he can - and just drop the $$$ for a new EXTREME base station. Thoughts anyone on any of this?
Thanks!
Mike

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