WARNING... K8T Master 2 FAR Dual Opteron upgrade

Anyone owning this board who has set up with one processor with a view to upgrading to dual beware.
I recently assembled a machine in MAY 2004 using one AMD 242 Opteron, the system works fine and as Opteron prices have dropped i ordered the second one. Despite the short period of time between the two orders the processors are incompatible. I include an extract from an e-mail from AMD tech support
Based on the part numbers that you provided me for your Opteron 242
processors please note that based on their revisions they are not
compatible so will not work together.
OSA242CC05 AH --> AH part # is a B3 revision
OSA242CEP5 AU --> AU part # is a CG revision
Please ensure that when putting these processors on a dual processor
motherboard both processors revision #s are the same. I have included
a link for you below with information on how to determine the revision
# for your processor.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30417.pdf
I am assuming that it would be fairly difficult to track down a match for the first processor so i will probabltyhave to order a third processor to match the new one which leaves one spare...for what?
I hope that this information will help to avoid you wasting money and valuable time trying to set up a basic dual opteron system.

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Have you tried looking at the serial numbers through the packaging on the retail boxed version, it is difficult enough to read with the processor out of the packaging and there is nothing on the outside of the packaging to diferentiate one batch from another. Pretty pathetic considering AMD designed the 242 series for dual boards.
no i havent but i know its possible to get athlon xp with a certain number in sweden.
and if its like this it will give amd bad reputation.

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K8T Master 2 FAR dual Opteron 250 Vista 64bit BIOS 1.4 only 1 CPU show!!! Help!!

Hi,
I am new to this forum but had been working on this problems for a week!
Here my system:
MSI K8t Master 2 FAR
ECC ram 2GB
Dual Opteron 250 replaced the dual Opteron 242 one week ago
BIOS upgrade to 1.4
Window Vista 64bit from Window XP Pro
The POST, Device Manager detect two new CPUs. However, there are only one CPU being utilize in task manager (yes, I have check one graph per CPU). It appear from the forum that BIOS 1.35B5? would work but I could not find it. Try to install Window XP Pro but failed (flopppy drive does not work).
Any help and suggestion would be greatly appreciated!
Wai

No options after slash "/"?
Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 14-August-08, 19:42:45
Does it worked before to update BIOS to 1.4?
Quote from: Wai on 15-August-08, 06:55:42
With BIOS 1.1 and dual Opteron 242, I have both CPU work as shown by Device manager and task manager (two CPU graphs). I can only get one CPU work since I upgrade to Opteron 250 and BIOS 1.4. Unfortunately BIOS 1.1 do not support Opteron 250.
Wai
Check this topic:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=90059.0
"Running 2 CPU's will show just 1 CPU in the Opterating system, was reported by a user."
Quote from: Lord Anubis on 01-June-08, 21:22:00
has anyone tried the new v1.40 bios released 2008-04-10 for this board?
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=133&prod_no=675
Quote from: slava_b on 17-June-08, 16:02:30
I tried. More stable then 1.47, but not fully workable. Second CPU dont work, Smart fan dont work, if 4Gb installed -> CPU kernel time load 60-70% permanently. Last stable workable release is 1.35, but i have slow down if install LSI 21320R.
1.35 appear to be last stable version reported by users
Quote from: Wai on 10-August-08, 23:21:53
It appear from the forum that BIOS 1.35B5? would work but I could not find it.
Here is it:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90059.0;attach=1707
Change Log, your CPU is supported as well:
2. Added Feature:
(a)support new Opteron 250 CPUs
Flash at own risk

K8T Master-2 Far - Dual Channel Memeory???

Hello, I have a few questions about this board. Is this board Dual Channel supported for memory modules? I have 4 ECC Registered 512 (333) Transcend memory modules installed, but no dual channel!
I also know that theWindbonf Temp probes are off on this/my board, as my cpu temp probe reads 64C, but taking a thermal prob to it, read just a bit over half of that. However in Sandra, when I switch between my cpu's (2x Opteron 244's) 1 shows a vcore of about 3.00 or so while the other shows 1.49... and often switches back and fourth with the other processor, or occassionally, they both will read at 1.49. Is this normal?
And for my final question, is it normal for this board to catch on fire?... j/k!
TY!

Quote from: SiliconEmbryo on 24-December-05, 17:23:42
Hello, I have a few questions about this board. Is this board Dual Channel supported for memory modules? I have 4 ECC Registered 512 (333) Transcend memory modules installed, but no dual channel!
I also know that theWindbonf Temp probes are off on this/my board, as my cpu temp probe reads 64C, but taking a thermal prob to it, read just a bit over half of that. However in Sandra, when I switch between my cpu's (2x Opteron 244's) 1 shows a vcore of about 3.00 or so while the other shows 1.49... and often switches back and fourth with the other processor, or occassionally, they both will read at 1.49. Is this normal?
And for my final question, is it normal for this board to catch on fire?... j/k!
TY!
The memory controller is built in the CPU's so its not depend on the board, however you have to put your memory in pairs in to the Mobo. The CPU does support dual channel. You mentioned you have 4 ( same?) sticks so you should be fine. Did you run a memory test in Sandra? What is the results compare with some references? ( try with 2 sticks ( 1MB) only ) One more thing try run the Memtest86. What is your bios version? Try update if too old. If only one program shows 3.00 volt for VCore then dont worry.. some bug...
When you inserted the cpus did you put some conductive grease on the cpus (silver grease is better, then the original conductive (pink) tape). Maybe the contact between the heat sink and cpu is not so good, try replace it. I have 248 opterons with max 45 C. (and 2X 512 MB + 2X 256 MB and dual channel is working fine).

K8T Master 2 FAR; Hard Drive Questions About

Greetings!
I just got off the Google bus and stubbed my toe on your doorstep. What luck!
I have many questions, and it's getting harder to find answers for a mainboard that's not being sold "new" anymore. I did see some other topics that go along lines similar to my own, but I figured it would be a good idea to open a new thread with my specific questions.
I have decided to split my questions into three parts. This is part one, "hard drive" questions.
HARD DRIVE RELATED:
Western Digital recently announced a new high-capacity SATA Raptor drive, with 150 GB of storage:
1) Can I mount two of them into my K8T Master 2 FAR system and "hardware stripe" them for Windows/XP?
....1A) If yes, is there a minimum recommended BIOS that I should be running?
....1B) If no, then would it be feasibile to "software stripe" them in Windows/XP Pro?
If I decide to proceed, I will be well-prepared to accept the risk of data loss that would occur if one drive were to crash.
I currently run my system with a removable SATA drive caddy for my system drive. This makes it easy to swap OS's by swapping hard drives without opening my CPU case. If I go with a dual-striped SATA drive arrangement and two Raptors, then I'll replace that removable caddy with a unit that can accomodate two SATA drives.
....1C) Once in a blue moon, I get a BSOD after having swapped SATA drives. It happens when I first boot Windows/XP after having run Linux. Hot-swappable claims notwithstanding, I always swap drives while the system is powered down, although I don't typically shut off the hardware switch at the power power supply. Are there any known issues or reports of other people having similar occurrences?
I also run some IDE devices for data and archival purposes. My system is typically set up as follows:
CH 0/0 - Data drive
CH 0/1 - DVD burner
CH 1/0 - Data drive
CH 1/1 - Data drive
Recently, my system stopped "seeing" any hard drives on CH 1 drive 1. Known good drives won't show up in the BIOS, and auto-detect doesn't "see" a drive in that position. I have tried more than one drive, and the problem stays on that channel and position. I swapped cables with a known good cable, and the problem stays on that channel and position. For the time being, I have disconnected one of the data drives...but I'd really like to resolve this issue if possible.
....1D) Are there any known problems or issues with "disappearing IDE devices" in the K8T Master 2 FAR?
Thanks in advance!

Can't say, this is the first time I hear about SATA caddies....
Maybe a bad contact or so?
Sata is pretty sensitive to connection problems, or even folded cables for that matter...

K8t master 2 far - Bios PChealth 2nd cpu no temp reading?

Hi ya all, Ive just got myself the MS 9130 (was supposed to be the Master 2 far 7, but was sent the older Master 2 far) anyways, great to be here.
Its currently populated with 2 opty 240's and also with 2x1 gig of ecc ddr400 ram. Boots fine and all that.
Couple of questions...
1. when boots, it displays the Bios as being V1.3 071304 which is fine, i know the latest bios is 1.4 (as on the MSI site) however, is it worthwile updating to the latest bios (i have 2x250 optys coming in the post later on in the week) Does the V1.3 bios have the micro code to support the 250?
2. In the bios itself, under "PC heath" it doesnt show me what the temp for CPU2 is, it does however nicely show what it is for CPU1 (stable at 40 degrees c) surely it should show what the temp for cpu2 is right?
Could this have something to do with how tight you screw down the cpu2 cooler? (next to the AGP slot) how much should you screw that one down?
3. Also, Vin2 is shows as -12.77v is that right?
Iam using an enermax Liberty 620W psu to power the show, 24pin in the Powerplug and a combo 8 pin plug in Jpwr1
kind regards and thanks for any help
cheers

Quote from: vanne on 17-October-08, 10:29:55
1. when boots, it displays the Bios as being V1.3 071304 which is fine, i know the latest bios is 1.4 (as on the MSI site) however, is it worthwile updating to the latest bios (i have 2x250 optys coming in the post later on in the week) Does the V1.3 bios have the micro code to support the 250?
Best BIOS is 1.3B5, however, this board only support the 130nm Opterons...if those 250's are 90nm they will not work...
Not a BIOS matter but a regulator matter.
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2. In the bios itself, under "PC heath" it doesnt show me what the temp for CPU2 is, it does however nicely show what it is for CPU1 (stable at 40 degrees c) surely it should show what the temp for cpu2 is right?
Yes it should, maybe the CPU's heatsensor is broken.
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Could this have something to do with how tight you screw down the cpu2 cooler? (next to the AGP slot) how much should you screw that one down?
Might be, but normaly not, unless you use coolers that bend the board.
Bending a board is a bad thing.
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3. Also, Vin2 is shows as -12.77v is that right?
Sorry don't know, the board does use -12V from the powersupply so looks ok to me.
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I am using an enermax Liberty 620W psu to power the show, 24pin in the Powerplug and a combo 8 pin plug in Jpwr1
Good powersupply.

K8T Master (x) Far 1.20 BIOS released...

Hi,
The new K8T Master BIOS 1.20 BIOS has been released....
As usual I'm the first......
You can download it here or wait for MSI to realease it:
http://ftp://ftp.heppen.be/msi/K8T-Master/

I flashed it and it caused my hard drive light to stay on all the time. Went back to the beta 118 and all is well. How can MSI put out a BIOS that does something stupid like that?

MS-9130 K8T Master 2 FAR BIOS w/4GB Memory Remapping

Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone has been running a stable release BIOS (not beta) on the 9130 that resolves the memory re-mapping issue for those of us with 4GB of RAM?
My system is very stable with both 32bit and 64bit XP Versions, but I'd like to make full use of my installed RAM if possible. There has been a lot of dialog about this in past months and a new BIOS was supposed to be in the works, but V1.35 is still the latest version on the MSI site and doesn't resolve the memory map issue. V1.47 posted in the BIOS thread is still beta and as best as I can tell isn't completely stable.
Have I missed any new developments or releases?
Any advice or assistance is appreciated...
Thanks!
Richard

Quote from: Bas on 01-April-06, 17:36:25
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=90059.0
That bios has the function....
Hi Bas,
Thanks for your reply. I know you said in that thread that the 1.47 Bios has the memory mapping function, but there are also many warnings about the fact that this version is not necessarily ready for use beyond testing. Also, nobody confirmed that the 4GB memory mapping was actually working.
Some of your cautions in that BIOS thread included:
Quote from: Bas on 17-November-05, 01:01:09
Hi guy's,
I hereby post the latest MS-9130, I have tested this and for me it worked and was stable.
Beware, this beta is more alpha then beta, but stable.
This BIOS has quirks, do not use or flash it on a production machine or complaint that it does have problems
It's entirely your own fault if something happens as YOU decided to help testing[/color]
<snip>
A couple of remarks:
When you download this BIOS, you confirm you did know this is a testing-bios, not a bugg-free one.
<snip>
As I said, this is test-BIOS, not to use if you don't wan't to help testing, nor the forum or MSI is responsible if something does go wrong!
Have there been additional improvements made since you gave those cautions about the Version 1.47 Bios?
Do you think it's safe to use that version now on a production system?
Thanks, Bas! As always, your assistance is greatly appreciated
Richard

MOVED: MS-9130 K8T Master 2 FAR - Windows x64 SATA drivers???

This topic has been moved to Server/workstation.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=94674.0

You need to download them here: VIA Drivers
They have all the 64 bit drivers listed you need for the chipset.
Win64 will not take any 32bit drivers, don't even try that road

ADM K8T Master start up problems

I have just got my self an K8T master motherboard for dual opteron, the problem that i am having is that there is no singal going to the moniter but the CPU fans spin and everthing ells seems to be working. I've tested the graphics card on other motherboards and it works find. There are no bleeps or anything i'm completely stuck on what to do any help would be great,
cheers ric

How many and what kind of Opteron's do you have installed ?
What type of RAM are you using ? (it *has* to be registered, and ECC is recommended).

Trying to assemble dual opteron system, no display.

My system:
MSI K8T Master2-FAR
Dual Opteron 250 cpus
BFG 6800 Ultra OC
2 gigs pqi turbo registered ecc ram (2 sticks)
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SB Audigy2 zs
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I finally got all the parts and tried building my first self built pc with a friend. I have everything plugged in, all the fans spin, controllers light up, heatsink fans spinning. and im pretty sure the hds are going to, but nothing shows up on the monitor. I even put my old geforce 2 card so i could make sure it wasnt the 6800, but even that wouldnt work. My board has no onboard video so i cant use that. What do I do?

Well I got my new psu, put it in and tried everything. One processor, one stick of ram (only ecc ram I have), two sticks, 2 cpus and one stick, ect, reset the jumpers. But someone said the board needs a bios update to run the 250's. So I was pissed I may have to buy a 140 just to update the bios. But I called MSI and they are sending me a new bios chip with the latest bios on them.
Think it will work?

K8T Master & Nvidia Quadro4 NVS 400??

I was just wondering if anyone here is using an Nvidia Quadro4 NVS 400 (4 display PCI video card) with the K8T Master-2 FAR motherboard?? After having nothing but problems trying to get two dual-head video cards to work on this mobo (one AGP, 1 PCI) I've decided to maybe try a single quad-display PCI card, but was hoping for some input before I make any purchases.
Thanks in advance,
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Hi and thanks for the reply,
I did use a different switch and it did the same thing.
I haven't tried a higher wattage one but I doubt it needs that much juice,
especially without anything plugged , ie. hdd, cdrom...
Ro

K8t master 2 questions....

Ok, soon I'm picking up a k8t master 2 and two opteron 240s with an Antec 550watt EPS12V PSU.
But I have a question.
Are the CPU heatsink mounting wholes compatible with p4 heatsinks?
I'd like to pick up a pair of Swifttech MCX4000s, but need to be sure before I buy them.
The MCX4000s are very large, well they don't appear any large than the retention mechanism, so even next to the AGP with a MCX4000 my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro should still fit.
Thanks!

I emailed Gamepc and they said it "should" work, but they used the ones that came with the motherboard.
I guess I'm just leary of spending $80 for two heatsinks if there's a chance they won't work.
For what I've read the MSI ones that come with it are noisy and I don't know about their actual cooling ability. But I know the Swifttech MCX4000 are top notch heatsinks. That and call me funny, but I like matching heatsinks.

K8T Master 2 with 2 x 250's

HI guys, i am at my witts end.
I have got a K8T master 2
2 x opteron 250's
4 x Hynix PC3200 512 ECC-Reg dims (2GB)
When i turn the blighter on i just get 1 long beep (which repeats). I have had the CPU's checked by AMD and have had the board replaced at dabs. Still no luck.
The board is brand new, my big worry is that the CPU's arent recognised as the board might not have the latest 250 capable bios. Do i need to get hold of an older CPU to post and bios update or should it just run the procs as older variants?
Anyone got any other ideas. PSU should be plenty powerful enough.
I have never seen the Post screen and am starting to think i never will......
Thanks for any help
Richy

No it is in the correct hole by the ATX backplate and usb connectors. (With the bit of paper over it)
I am worried i may have originally plugged it into the agp socket bit. Could this have damaged the board?
I have tried 2 PSU's with it, 1 is a 550 watt and now im using an antec 380 watt. All i want to do is get it to post. If i thats the problem ill get a more powerfull one but i was under the impression it would at least post.
Can anyone recommend a PSU that i could source from the UK to fit into this if that is the problem?
Thanks for your help guys, very much appreciated
Richy

MASTER-2 FAR BIOS (ms-9130)

I'm having stability problems (SATA drives locking up) with the K8T MASTER-2 FAR (ms-9130) and I can't seem to find the latest bios on the MSI website.
My BIOS id: W9130MS V1.3 071304
Latest BIOS on MSI website is appears to be older than what I'm using:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=484&kind=3
Could the MASTER-2 FAR7 bios be compatible with the MASTER-2 FAR; VIA K8T800Pro vs. K8T800?
Thanks for your time,
Lawrence

Nope, those BIOS'ses are NOT the same, do not go there!
Anyway, what else is in your system, as it could be anything, doesn't have to be the drive's.
Could be well the powersupply or something else.
Also, why do you thing the sata drive's lockup?
Please list the system as detailed as you can.

K8d or k8t master far?

Hello to all, looking at a server mobo what do you all think would be the better board?
k8d master far ms-9131 amd chipped
k8t master far ms-9130 via chipped
Ive looked and cant seem to find out if the k8d can use a dual core, I know the k8t is single core Dual processer mobo..
second suggest a PSU
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Pay attention now!!!!
The MS-9130 is the K8T-Master-2FAR does NOT support Dual-core or new CPU's the FAR7 does, see below !
You are mixing numbers and boards here.
Let me show you the pages of the right boards:
>>K8T Master 2FAR-7<< = MS-9617 and does support ALL new CPU's, incl dual-core. Workstation board socket 940.
>>K8D Master3-133<< = MS-9161 ver2 and does support ALL new CPU's, incl dual-core. Server board socket 940.
As you are looking at the K8T Master 2FAR (MS-9130) and the K8D Master3 (MS-9161 ver1) boards, they are NOT the same and do not support the latest CPU's.
Please pay attention to this, as you are looking at the old boards, not the new ones.

WARNING... K8T Master 2 FAR Dual Opteron upgrade

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