Warp Stabilizer? (CS6)

Hello,
I recently shot a video that I did not have a rig for, so I had to shoot it handheld. The video looks fine and all, except it is a bit shaky... I've tried the warp stabilizer but it warps the video horrifically. The shot is between two main characters talking, then walking off, with the camera making a full circle around them before following them out. Is there any way that this warping can be put to rest so my video can be more stable?
Thanks,
Jack Reynolds
Premiere Pro CS6, Windows 8.1

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This strikes me as a bug that hasn't been corrected.
Is there a way to see if it has even been reported? (I don't want to add a redundant bug report).
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Message was edited by: Derek Emmett

Hello Mylenium,
thank you for your input. Naturally I would expect if my work flow in CS5.5 works great, I would not have to make any changes in CS6 to accomplish the same task. With that said, I made it as simple as possible for CS6 AE to handle the Warp Stabilizer effect, and it crashed? If I went directly back to CS5.5, no problems at all in AE (same source footage, but of course different projects). When I first tried CS6 AE it appeared to work fine, even when doing Warp effects. So when I ran into the issue I saw above, I started thinking it was possible the update I did to AE may have caused some other issue. By the way, the projects I open in both CS5.5 vs. CS6 were independent, meaning, I did not convert a CS5.5 job to CS6, etc... (See notes below).
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and have major problems shooting hand held without shake, even though the cam has a good stablizer.
It is just that the cam is so tiny. So now I use a little "mealeable" tripod, 2 arms are my handle and the third arm dug into my tummy.
Really should use a full tripod, but how inconvenient when travelling.
Then I look at all the fellow travellers who are not into the hobby like I am. Some poor audience????
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Thanks to all for your insightful comments!! I will definitely try to cut down the length and omit an pans which may be confusing the stabilizer.
I was hoping it would be able to avoid instances of things like that but I I guess that is what causing the results I am seeing. Because I don't think the shaking is so bad you would need half the frame to fix it!
It is just a clip of HDV outdoors, handheld, with some panning, etc. shot with an HV20. Sequence settings match the HDV resolution. I'll cut the panning out and try again.
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BJBBJB1

Warp Stabilizer in Premiere Pro CS6

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FWIW, I don't know if it's related, but the sequence setting was 720p but the nested sequence that had the warp stabilization applied to only one clip therein was 1080p.
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Is this a known issue, and does anyone have any suggestions for a workaround other than going back to using AE a la CS5.5?
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CS6. Need to have time remapping and warp stabilizer work together.

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https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
Does Adobe read these feature requests? I often have a hard time justifying spending time to type out something when I feel like it's just being thrown into a black hole. I'm sure the team gets thousands of feature requests. It's like the lottery. Statistically you will never win. Sure, you'll never win if you don't play, but it's still a waste of time to play. I know, I'm pessimistic. Just don't have much faith in conglomerates - although Lightroom 3 is by far the most perfect program I have ever used and I would kiss the LR3 team if I could.
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Putting aside the terrible analyzing and solving times, and the eternal wait next time you load the project, there's the fact that as soon as you use WP on a few clips, or on one long clip, saving times are unbearably slow.
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In this case, yes, I have a 13 minute long take that I have to stabilize. However, the original footage clip is a few minutes longer, so I'm not trying to stabilize the full clip, only most of it.
I could spend a lot of money on the plugin, but I usually don't have a lot of footage that needs stabilization. Besides, I already have the plugin that came bundled with Edius 6, so I just use that when I need to. However, since Adobe advertises Warp Stabilizer as part of Premiere, and the plugin is absolutely dreadful, it seems to me that it's false advertising. I would much rather use WP in my Premiere project rather than having to load the footage in Edius and then export to a gigantic file to avoid losing picture quality.
As for drive space, I have two 3 TB very fast hard drives that have plenty of empty space. Besides, Mercalli Pro in Edius analyses and solves this long clip in about ten minutes, as opposed to the over two hours WP needs for the same clip. In fact, in Premiere I only applied WP to part of the clip, when in Edius I loaded the original AVCHD clip so I can just do a replace in Premiere and have the same ins and outs.

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