Washed out colours in DVD SP, but not in iDVD?

I was using iDVD to burn my projects and decided to go pro and use DVD SP 4 at work. I had some help putting the project together and burnt off a DVD. All works fine, but the colours are definately more washed than when I burnt the same quicktime through iDVD 6.
The footage was captured from PAL DIGI Beta, using the blackmagic capture card and codec and used uncompressed in both projects.
Even the title screen of the DVD SP project is washed out compared to the iDVD one. I've viewed both DVDs on an LCD imac and a CRT sony trinitron.
Any ideas?
Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

I am not sure if the two applications encode the same - iDVD may use different settings to encode the video when compared to the settings in DVD SP or using Compressor which can change the output/how it looks - that may be what is happening.
You can take the exact same movie and place it in different encoders, or the same encoders with different settings, and the end result will look different.
Compressor overview
http://dvdstepbystep.com/qc.php
http://dvdstepbystep.com/fasttrackover.php

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