Wave forms in nested sequence?

Hello,
is there a way to show the audio wave form in a nested sequence?
Thx,
Max

I don't think so. Nesting just puts all the layers into an easy to manage packet.
You could try double clicking the Nest so that it will open on its own Timeline, then do an audio mixdown. That should work, at least in theory.

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Yes same issue for me also, working in mutli cam nestings
Very Very Sluggish Performance, semi hangs in PP, if you actually wait long enough, or leave it hung whilst you do a post on here, for a few minutes then it may come back to response.
The issue is defo to do with nesting, I have tried turning off audio wave forms, which helps in the multicam nest edit but as soon as you put that sequence into a third nest then the sluggishness is major.
Basically, this looks to be the same issues that have been reported before with the new update.

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SEQUENCE--> SHOW AUDIO WAVEFORMS

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See attached screen shots:
1. Nested sequence is off - everything under is is crisp and proper aspect ratio
2. Nested sequence is on - everything under it is blurry and wrong aspect ratio
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Image 1:
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Image 2:
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Image 3:
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I do not have the audio tracks disabled they are just white. I can see the wave forms but I get no sound when I play the sequence. How do I fix that? Rich

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Have you Muted the tracks? If there is no Mute and Headphone symbol to the left of the audio tracks click the tiny Loudspeaker icon at the very bottom left of the timeline window. Tiny Loudspeaker and headphone icons should appear. These icons are in addition to the normal green loudspeakers.
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The image above is with GPU acceleration turned on.
This image below this sentence is with software on.
In a way it appears simliar to your findings since when my GPU accleration is turned on you can see a white boarder creeping up from the bottom and top but with it off you don't see it.
However when I turn the blur up higher and try it again I get these results.
GPU On in the image directly below.
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This is Software only on in the pic below this sentence.
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I tried this on another (much lower system) and have found the same results. I am begining to think it is the footage but it seems odd that it is perfect when applied to a clip in the timeline but NOT to a timeline in the timeline (nested).
I am on vacation and do not have access to a faster machine until next late next week but for now I will try the export again to be sure Encore sees the same thing.
I am dumbfounded because I had been using 1.5, then 2.0 and now CS3 for weddings for years and have never noticed this. I have noticed it on the both the last project and now this current one.
I thought it could have been the original footage (or a camera problem except that the problems are not there until a nested sequence comes along. I will try moving the footage to my internal drive now and see what happens...
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