WBS element on balance sheet accounts?

Hello everybody
Is there anyway to assign the WBS element to a balance sheet account?
I don´t really need it to interact with the PS module, I just need to classify the accounts and receivable payables according to the WBS element.
I´ve already tried to modify the field status of the G/L accounts and the posting key, it didn´t work.
I´ll appreciate any ideas you can give me.
Thanks!
Rivendelian

I think you must assign account and /or cost centre in trx. ME21
A.

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