WCS upgrade help

Hi All,
Yesterday I upgraded WCS from 5.2.130 to 6.0.132 and now the WCS "home page" will not load. I've attached a screen shot of the error. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott

You can not downgrade, or you will loose your data.
You have in my opinion a configuration issue or a browser issue with the IE 8. Perhaps you can play with the settings to remove those messages.
WCS was not tested with IE 8 and not supported, perhaps try to tweak the settings in IE 8 to get it to work or convey to your management that IE 7 is needed.
I guess we can mark this resolved.
On a positive note: WCS does load and work, it's a browser issue here.

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5. Can anyone suggest a good system monitoring program? As mentioned I bought a CPU upgrade and I am a little suspicious about it. I want to know what speed it is running at. The docs that came with it say the the apple system profiler will not give the correct reading of CPU speed and I should use CPU director instead.
Call me cynical but is it possible that the CPU I bought is not what it says on the tin.
ASP says it is 333MHz and it should be 1GHz. CPU director does indeed say it is running at 1GHz but can I believe that? It is, in my opinion, possible to write a piece of software to give the wrong CPU speed thereby allowing someone to sell a 333MHz chip as a 1GHz chip and saying 'only our software can give correct readings'
I had the same thing with a broadband supplier recently. My connection was really slow for days. I ran several online speed checks to ascertain the speed. Out of the six speed checks only the suppliers own one said I was getting the connection speed I should have been, all the others gave really low speeds which reflected in the fact that it took an age for a web page to download, not something you should be getting on a 2Mbit connection.
On the phone to the suppliers customer services and they refused to take any speed check but theirs as true. I ran theirs and it always came up with the same number. 'Then your connection is working perfectly' they said. The five other speed checks and my own eyes told a different story but they wouldn't have any of it, instead telling me my PC was to blame, even going on to tell me to disable firewall and antivirus and run my PC in safe mode with no startup programs!! ********. Anyway, I want a third opinion about processor speeds so if anyone could tell me the name of a good program to do this (preferably free) I would be grateful.
Thanks for any help any of you can give me. I am learning more and more about apple hardware by the day and I am fast becoming one of the converted.
broddr

Hey guys,
thanks for answering so soon.
To answer the questions asked:
The motherboard is either a rev b or c. I remember checking this when I first had the idea of upgrading the cpu. I am not sure if it is a b or c but it is definately not rev a.
I think the cpu upgrade is working fine.
As Frank mentioned, it seems most of the cpu speed utilities use ASP for their information and give exactly the same speed reading.
I went a little more basic.
I ran CPU director and put the cpu speed at 333MHz and timed how long it took a few apps to open, then used CPU director to put the speed up to 1000MHz and timed the same programs again.
The speed difference was more than noticeable so from this I can only assume the CPU is running at 1GHz.
I have installed 9.2 on a seperate partition but it seems to be a weird version.
It came with a freinds G5 software for his iMac and is labelled 'additional software'
I installed it on a whim (because I am like that) and it gave me 'classic support'
I can now run classic apps in OSX and I have, on occasion, been able to boot into the 9.2 system. Only occasionally though.
Once booted into the 9.2 system there is no optical drive support and hardly any of the options I remember from OS8.6.
From this I am assuming that it is a cut down version of 9.2 bundled with new iMacs to enable users to use classic apps.
That doesn't explain why sometimes I can boot into it though.
Any of you heard of something like that.
I am planning to purchase a full copy of 9.2 when funds allow.
I have disconnected the CDROM which is on the same IDE channel as my third hard drive and used the cuda button to force the motherboard to recheck its hardware. Upon boot though the only difference it made is that I didn't have a CDROM. The third hard drive was still awol.
The SCSI yamaha CDRW is bootable but that makes little difference as disconnecting my IDE CDROM makes no difference on whether or not I can see the third hard drive.
I do know about the 8GB partition and OSX is sitting on the first partition which is 7.95GB.
I tried using xpostfacto to get around this which kind of worked. It did allow me to put OSX on a larger partition but caused no end of problems at boot so I cleared NVRAM and erased all the hard disks and started afesh.
The 17GB hard drive is in fact 15.91 GB, sorry about that. It came in a PC I bought which was (incorrectly) labelled as having a 17GB hard drive and since then I have just called it the '17GB hard drive'.
Since I last wrote I have done a little more research on the hard drives and found that the 6GB original apple drive and the 15GB drive are both 5400rpm so that cannot be the problem.
Here is some more accurate information on the drives:
IDE 0-
Master - 15.91GB Fujitsu MPE3170AT - seems to work fine apart from the aforementioned slowness - first partition is 7.95GB with OSX installed.
Slave - 6GB Maxtor 90651U2 - works fine
IDE 1-
Master - Matshita CR57 CDROM - works fine and is bootable.
Slave - 1.19GB WDC AC21200H - this is the one I just cannot use or see.
SCSI internal - Yamaha CDRW - works fine and is bootable.
Could the problem be that I have overloaded the internal bus by having four devices on the IDE and a SCSI device?
I have since used a program called disk warrior which states that the 1GB WDC disk is of an unrecognisable format.
I have sucessfully used disk utility to zero it out but it makes no difference.
I think it may just be trashed.
The USB card is still a puzzle.
I am, right now, using a mouse plugged into the USB card which is, according to OSX, disabled.
Scratching of head.
Maybe it is still functioning because the apple PSU has lots spare to give because I have a second PSU taking a lot of the strain? I just don't know.
This whole boot time thing is puzzling to the extreme.
As I said before. I have installed OSX on the 6GB Maxtor drive and the machine starts up in under 2 minutes so I can only assume that there is no hardware problem elsewhere.
When I use the Fujitsu drive its 10 - 14 minutes. So from that it is logical to assume it is the hard drive. Maybe it has a really small cache or something. Or maybe the apple just doesn't like it much.
Once the machine is up and running it runs just fine. A few programs like entourage are a little slow to boot.
I don't know what the benchmark is as I have never used an Apple except this one.
For instance safari takes around 2 seconds for the icon to stop bouncing and about 5 seconds in total to be up and have loaded the home page. Is that about normal?
Another question I have to ask you fine fellows.
Can you move some of OSX's built in applications and utilities to a seperate partition and still have them function properly?
I would like to use the apple hard drive as the OSX installation disk but at 6GB, once I have installed the OS there ain't much room left for anything else.
I have already installed MS office and Appleworks and a few other apps to a separate partition and they work fine.
I suppose though that if I did that and the problem is slow access to the fujitsu disk, once I installed OSX to the apple disk and installed apps to the fujitsu disk I would still have problems accessing those apps.
i don't know really. I think I am going to have to take the machine apart again and experiment until I can find the problem.
Another quick question.
Could it be RAM? Surely either RAM works or it doesn't right?
My system is correctly identifying the 768megs of RAM, if there was a problem with the 512MB of PC100 RAM I installed it just wouldn't show up.
Anyway, thanks for all your help so far,
I think I am going to save some cash and buy a new Apple machine - any suggestions which?
Broddr.
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Hey, How is everyone doing?
Recently my friend gave me an old iMac. It is one from Summer 2000. He no longer had any use for it so I said I would take it for my son who is into video editing.
He also gave me OS X 10.3 Panther
I seem to be having a bit of an issue upgrading here so i'll post what I can.
I put the boot disc in and the iMac reads it fine, I hit install and it runs the program, then gives me the error
"iMac Essentials could not be installed please upgrade firmware"
So i get on one of the chat's with an agent and he gives me a link to get the newest firmware patch I download it and install it, and I get the same error again. can anyone shed any light as to why this may be happening? any help would be greatly epreciated.
also Im running three computer's
Dell Demension 8400 with Windos XP professional 3.2 ghz processor 120gb hard drive 1 gb ram
Dell Demecison XPS 400 with Windows NT 800 ghz processor 12 gb hard drive with a second 10 gb hard drive put in and running 320 mb of ram
iMac "iPac" with OS 9.1 nut really sure whats in it havent looked at it really
Thanks
Bob
and I will not be in town from 11/20 through 11/28
I prefer if someone would email me with some information as I don't want my post to get lost :/
I will be up checking the boards for about another hour and a half or so
[email protected] or [email protected] will work

Hello and Welcome to Apple Discussions; if only it were under better circumstances.
Do not reset the PRAM until you are in a safer state.
The fix for this is a little long winded so all I'm going to do is post the link to it and the firmware you'll need.
iMac slot-loading firmware problem solver - read carefully.
Firmware for slot-loading iMac G3
IMVHO 128Mb of RAM probably isn't enough for Panther to run really well so you'll want to upgrade anyhow.
iMac DV RAM - even a £35 upgrade will make a huge difference. Fitting Instructions.
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