WCS used to configure SSID broadcast for WLAN issue

Hi,
When I try to disable the broadcast parameter for an SSID on a WLC using WCS (4.0.96.0), I am running in to some issues.
I uncheck the 'Broadcast SSID' check box for a particular SSID and then submit the change. But, after I submit, the check box is still checked. If I verify the setting on the native WLC web interface, the Broadcast SSID parameter is still enabled.
I can change other parameters OK, so I don't have an SNMP issue.
If you perform this operation from the WLC web interface or the command line, you have to disable the WLAN first, before the SSID broadcast can be switched off.
I suspect that WCS doesn't have the intelligence to disable and re-enable the WLAN to perform this operation. But, it very frustrating that it doesn't even generate a warning or failure message to say that the operation has failed.
Anyone seen this or can perhaps tell me if I am mis-operating WCS in some way ?
Thanks.

The WLANs tab allows you to create, configure, and delete WLANs on your controller.
You can access the following pages from the WLANs menu bar selection:
WLANs
WLANs > New
WLANs > Edit
WLANs > Mobility Anchors
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