WD Raptor hard Drive

I have just recieved my Mac Pro, with apple installed 500 gig hard drived in the first two drive bays. Can I add WD raptor 150 in the third drive bay, and install Windows in it?, or do I have to install Windows in the first drive?... appreciate your feed back.

About the jumper settings on the WD Raptor...
"Jumped pins 1 & 2 enables SSC (Spread Spectrum Clocking)"
I have 2 of these babies waiting for my box and I intend to set them as RAID 0 for startup , and add a second Raid 0 for storage and scratch with the 500 GB suplied with the Mac pro and a second 500 GB from WD.
Q. Should this jumpers be left alone or should I use them with the SSC enabled?
Mac Pro   Mac OS X (10.4.8)   Previously Power Mac G5

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    http://theavataroftime.com/sites/defaul … enshot.png
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    block 262149: The level of the node (28423) is not correct, (1) expected
    the problem in the internal node occured (262149), whole subtree is skipped
    block 11326: The level of the node (63701) is not correct, (1) expected
    the problem in the internal node occured (11326), whole subtree is skipped
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