Web Gallery generation speed is unacceptable

Machine: DP 2 Ghz G5, 2 GB RAM, 160GB disk, 250 GB disk, 20" Cinema Display
Aperture has it's library on the second SATA disk to improve I/O, likewise CS2 uses that disk for it's scratch and Bridge cache.
Task: Generate web gallery, Aperture(Proofs template), Bridge/ACR/CS2(white dots on black background)
-Raw images: Only 10 D2X NEFS
-In both apps all NEFS were tweaked and sharpening applied.
-Thumbnails 200x300
-Enlarged image(after clicking thumbnail) 750x499, JPG quality: Aperture(high) CS2(level 8)
On Aperture I selected "Export Web Pages", not "Publish to .mac"
Both Aperture and CS2 wrote the gallery web dir(under different names) to the same second internal SATA disk.
Aperture took 4:30
Bridge/ACR/CS2 took 59 seconds
Once again Adobe buries Aperture.
This is only one of the many problems with this app.
Note to Apple, if you want to be the leader then you need to beat the leader.
NO, I do not work for Adobe.

For me, the speed of Web page gallery creation isn't of great consequence. I don't make them that often. The speed of comparing images, selecting the pick from a stack, cropping, adjusting color, and so forth is much more important for me.
I've found the selecting tasks to be much faster in Aperture than in iView Media Pro III, which I also use and like. I also use Photoshop all the time (I'm still on CS1) and think its the best program that I've ever used. But cropping and adjusting colors are much easier and more facile on Aperture.
I wouldn't know how to conduct your test. Would I use the automation features to create the Web gallery, loading each image off of the hard disk in turn? If so, first I'd have to convert each to DNG. Then I'd have to adjust each on the fly. That makes no sense. So would I do the adjustments and then save out in PSD or TIFF format? Then the files are much bigger, so the disk i/o makes the test unfair for Photoshop and more about hard drive speed than anything the Apps are doing.
I recognize that other people are having speed problems with Aperture, even in areas where it works well for me. I have tricked out hardware which certainly helps my experience.
If I was making lots of Web image galleries every day, maybe the speed difference of a few minutes vs a few seconds would bother me too. I've noticed that the Web output from Aperture is very sharp with no noticable fringing. I think it looks great. But I also see that adjusting that sharpness isn't an option with Aperture. That hasn't annoyed me yet, but it might on some future project (like a portrait that wouldn't be as flattering if so crisp).

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As far as the different sizes of images go, this is really dependent on which particular galleries you choose to use (or create for yourself is you wish). The sizes you mention may be the ones that come pre installed with LR (I have never used these so don't know) but there are hundreds of other available, some free, some paid for, or create your own.
The copyright is a small text marking and in relation to any sensible size likely to be used on the web works perfectly fine. If you want to actually watermark an image, rather than just a simple text label, then you require LR2/ Mogrify plug in with LR 2 or use LR 3 Beta which does this natively as part of the export process.
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I was afraid of that. Thanks for taking the time to try it out. I guess I'll have to stick to Photo Albums if I want fast loading, but I really like the features of the gallery. Thanks again.

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Not sure why your changes don't 'stick'. I don't use flash galleries, for a variety of reasons, but I created a small one and changed that field and the data stays there. When I navigate away from that gallery to another one and and then come back it is still set to my web url rather than the 'default'.
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Problem that I have ... is difficult to explain so picture :
As you see when I click under the web gallery and I selected a flash galery or imported web galley (exemple here is airtight simpleviewver...) ... the screen in the middle box keeping black ... nothing more ...
here more you can see there is a problem : it's when I click under flash galery ... see middle box ... there is no photo adding ...
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Now it only works with html lightroom gallery .... I don't know why
More when I click under preview in brower some galery works but some not ... when I said not ... the result is a black screen in IE or firefox ...
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Have to admit, I've never delved deeply here, instead building slideshows in Lightroom and iPhoto. Is there any way to speed up, slow down, etc., the transition timings in the Web Gallery templates provided? Any way in building User Templates to do it? I did a search, and found an old 2007 request on LR 1 that went unanswered.
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Zhdesigner wrote:
Sorry, i have some trubelse with editing my mesege:before i wont wrote u:
Jay S
I never usung LR1. But in LR 3 problem "there any way to speed up, slow down, etc., the transition timings" - Slide Duration in other words... this task solve very easy:
In Slideshow module panel at the right part we have tools that include:
Options
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Backdrop
Titles
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Sliders (the sample 4,0sec), Fades (2,5sec)
I think somthing very near (like) must be in oldeer versions of LR.
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Zhdesigner,
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When playing a movie in web gallery I have to wait until the line below the movie slowly crosses to the following side. It is as though the movie is being downloaded before you can play it through. Is this normal, or am I missing out a step before clicking on the play icon?

This depends on the size of your movie file and the speed of your internet connection.
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Unlike the pros that sell their stuff online and are concerned about people downloading usable photos, I shoot a lot of community and family events and would like a way to allow folks to download full size printable photos from the web gallery. This would keep me from getting hammered for printable files, which of course are larger than the email attachment limits for most people and thus require a sneaker-net or snail-mail delivery.
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Dave,
I imagine that one issue that would have to be dealt with would be some kind of protection scheme. I post galleries on PBase, but not my higher-resolution "originals". PBase does, however, have a two-tiered protection scheme, password-protection, and non-public protection, so that if you post high-resolution files you can do so without the fear of people downloading them without some kind of permission. A lot of copyright marks can easily be cropped and, with a high enough resolution file, can be used without the info for print or whatever.
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If you select the option to let others download photos from the web gallery they will be downloading the full sized, pixel-wise, image. However, there will have been some jpg compression on the file. iPhoto does that so as to speed up uploading time and not fill up the iDisk as fast. The amount of compression is 9 on a scale of 1 to 12 where 12 is the highest quality. This was determined by saving the same file with Photoshop to different quality levels and comparing.
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