Web intelligence/desktop intelligence

Hi guys i would like to know the difference between desktop intelligence and web intelligence.When should we go for desktop and webi given a senerio.(i am new to BO).
Regards,
jiyyana

jiyyana,
Welcome to BO
Most of the below response is from the following site posted on/about 2/11/2008; you can visit there for some ongoing discussion:
http://www.geekinterview.com/question_details/62695
Desktop Intelligence (DeskI) Reports: These are standard "rep" -type files created from BO's full client known as "Desktop Intelligence". The software is loaded individually to each workstation that will execute Deski. A Deski report can be modified/viewed using the full client as well as applying all the tools/options available when using the full client. As an added "benefit" a saved rep (Deski Report) can be imported to the XI web platform for "public" execution/view (but not for modification) -- all viewed via Infoview on the Web Intelligence platform.
Web Intelligence (WebI) Reports: These are standard "wid" -type files created using the online WEBI on XI and these reports can use tools and options available in Webi. These reports are built using WebI and and viewed using either WebI (modify mode) or Infoview (read-only mode). If further modifications to a report are needed then open in modified mode, correct, report, save, and then subsequently open in Infoview in cases where no further modification is required but you just want to view and move on.
DeskI was the initial product, offered prior to XI. When XI hit the streets, DeskI was not included, but users compelled BO to include DeskI in XI R2 and DeskI has been included ever since. BO strategy moving forward is to include as many features in DeskI into WebI, but that still remains to be seen. If you've never used DeskI before, then conventional wisdom is "don't", just learn to deal with everything in WebI and if it can't be done in WebI, then either look back to DeskI or consider Crystal, or something else. If you've used DeskI, then try to learn how to do the same things in WebI and encourage the use of WebI throughout your organization.
Thanks,
John

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刚刚开始学 Web Intelligence 和 Desktop Intelligence
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cxsoft wrote:
> 刚刚开始学 Web Intelligence 和 Desktop Intelligence
>
> 使用起来感觉他们的功能基本一致,只是界面，稍有不同
>
> 想了解下他们之间，到底有何区别？分别使用在什么业务场合？
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Ramu,
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Post Author: Jon80
CA Forum: Administration
Whilst I can access the web interface, somehow I cannot access Desktop Intelligence. When I logon I get the following error message:
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Tracert results
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600](C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\jcamilleri>ping desktop01
Pinging Desktop01.6pmodel.com [65.175.72.9] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 65.175.72.9: bytes=32 time=276ms TTL=117Reply from 65.175.72.9: bytes=32 time=504ms TTL=117Reply from 65.175.72.9: bytes=32 time=425ms TTL=117Reply from 65.175.72.9: bytes=32 time=345ms TTL=117
Ping statistics for 65.175.72.9: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 276ms, Maximum = 504ms, Average = 387ms
C:\Documents and Settings\jcamilleri>tracert desktop01
Tracing route to Desktop01.6pmodel.com [65.175.72.9]over a maximum of 30 hops:
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Post Author: TAZ
CA Forum: Administration
Jon80:Trying to connect using the <internal ipaddress>:6400 is unsuccessful as well. Any ideas, pls?
You need to be able to connect to the CMS port. If this is not working even via telnet then there must be a firewall rule somewhere preventing it. Unless traffic is allowed to pass to the CMS on it's configured port (6400 by default) then any further troubleshooting is unnecessarry.
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AAAAAEUK,130,A
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Hi Miguel Rodriguez,
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i didnot understud.
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    B             20                  60               40                   120
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Next Click on Product column     File menu   -
> Insert -
> calculations -
>Sum
customer      product_1       product_2      product_3                    PRODUCT
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Hello,
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