Web Press Profiles

I have been charged with taking over a newsletter for our other shop. They print this on a web press. The lady there has told me that the pictures need to compensate for a 30% dot gain. Can I just apply the Dot Gain 30% profile in Photoshop and that takes care of it? When I do this it darkens the picture on my screen considerably, is that just showing you what it will look like when printed?
They also want the pics @ 85lpi and 300dpi, does this sound correct?
This is my first foray into the web design world and the newsletter has looked pretty bad in the past and I think this may have something to do with it. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

Yes, web offset printing often uses the most awful paper one can imagine, so ink bleed is considerable, even more so without a heatsetter. All of what you see is pretty much how it will turn out, so you really must crank up curves to reduce contrast and in turn denisty and size of the offset points to get proper color...
Mylenium

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First soft proof was light and washed out. Printer had us increase saturation and contrast. Second proof
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We currently used srgb jpeg photos embedded in a ms word document. We used acrobat 11 to create the pdf using the request X-1a
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Can you show us screen shots of your X-1 PDF Settings ( i.e., Color )? The reason why I ask is my default Distiller PDF-X1a:2001 Settings use a working space of RGB = sRGB IEC61966-2.1; and CMYK = US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 with the "Color Management Policies: "Convert All Colors to CMYK" ( default ); Rendering Intent ( default is "Preserve" ). Have you discussed these settings with the print service provider? These settings, if they are identical in Acrobat 11, would appear to have the same RGB work space as your original sRGB based pics. I sense that Word, although not a color managed application, would work as an image carrier into Acrobat 11 where the image files may retain their profiles going into Acrobat 11 and remain intact going out of Acrobat 11 via a PDF-X1a. In which case, the print service provider then RIP and Prints the file for a hardcopy proof. In your case, the previous digital printer did a good job reproducing the photos as you supplied them, Word or no Word. The question now becomes what changed with this new service provider? Their prepress people must of accepted your documents and pushed them through their workflow. So, what changed? I know of no way to "swap" images using Acrobat. In your case, it may be a matter of saving a second set of files or the entire book document as a copy and replacing the pics in that file, then create a second PDF-X1a file. And, as a third option, use InDesign ( however, no point in using it until you've determined where the problem with quality lies ). If I assume the printer told you that the sRGB files were sufficient and, if you used the X-1 PDF Settings when Saving As > PDF, that would be their preferred workflow and the image files rendered dull and unsaturated ( as they did in your case ), and the printer recommended you increase the saturation and HUE of the images ( which he did ) and the entire workflow worked for a digital printer in the past ( which it did ), then something changed with this new print service provider. You have to find out from them what it could be. It could be something with their direct-to-plate equipment. I believe it merits further research and development with the new service provider. There is a solution. You just have to find it.
"Once the pdf is created could I swap out the photos
for ones that had been converted from RGB to CMYK in photoshop with Rendering Intent and Black Point Compensation etc. filled. "...
Wait a minute. You did a RGB-to-CMYK conversion in Photoshop? Why? I thought you embedded the RGB files in Word? Then, Acrobat did the conversion using the X-1 settings mentioned above.
"How hard would it be to dump my word document into InDesign with the newly created RGB or CMYK photos would it work better? Is the learning curve too much of a hassle for one off?"...
Yes it would. But, your procedures worked for the digital printer. Why not now with the new printer? That's my question. Since Acrobat's X-1 settings have a work space of sRGB ( assumed ), then your sRGB files should render appropriately and they do not. You have to find out what works for this new print service provider and, whatever Photoshop Color Setting RGB workspace you use, use it in Acrobat 11. Discuss the entire document and Photoshop setups with the new print service provider.

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I am learning IC web client actually, in a tutorial i came across something called IC web client profile. i created it successfully. Next they have said to assign it to the user or business partner' s position in organisation management. i don get what this is actullay. Can anybody help me in knowing how to assign the profile. ?
thanks,
selva M.
Edited by: selvakumar mohan on Apr 10, 2008 1:26 PM

hi Selva,
Once you have creted the ICWC profile you will need to assign this profile to either a BP/User or Position or Org unit.
for this go to the trasaction ppoma_crm where you can see you orgnisation setup along with the positions and BP assignements.
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hi ,
I want to write a plugin for import/export in adobe illustrator cs6 my document is web type(profile).
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or if u have any suitable example /link share with me

http://forums.adobe.com/community/illustrator/illustrator_sdk?view=discussions
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You can use SAP delivered roles
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SAP_PCC_IC_MANAGER
SAP_PCC_CAMPAIGN_MANAGER.
Each of these roles have access to Interaction Center BSP application 'CRM_IC' as well as other PCUI applications used in IC Web Client.
Authorization object for BSP applications is 'BSP_APPL'.
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You can even customize these roles.
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As per our requirement, I want to display the Campaigns based on the Web IC profile.
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I m using CRM5.0 for Web Client.I m changing BuPaMoreContactView as maintained in Cook Book CR5.0.
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I gor confused with CRM 5.1/5.2 and CRM 2007 profile. You are on CRM 5.0 then you do following things
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Beginner needs help to fix server web, wiki, profile manager

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I have had the same thing and a hostname change is killing for your configuration.
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Custom profiles in IC Web client terminate in XSLT error 'unexpected EOF'

Hello,
we've upgraded from CRM 4.0 SP7 to CRM2005 (i.e. CRM 5.0) SP7.
The IC web client is not able to start our custom web client profiles. However, SAP's default profile is OK.
When launching via transaction CRM_IC or SE80 and default.htm, the window opens up, but if we use one of the custom IC Web client profiles, the application won't load correctly. It only displays the logos and the clipboard, then gives the error message:
The runtime repository could not be interpreted. An XSLT transformation error occurred.
Reason: Unexpected end-of-file.
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../CRM_IC_DT_REP/CRM_IC_All_Viewsets_wo_BUPA_and_Main.xml
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Note 880180 seems to help.
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More IC Web Profile?

Dear all,
How can i assigned more then one web client profile to the one Organization unit/position?
and after assigning it how can i select in the Web client window?
pls reply
jayesh

Hi Jayesh,
You can assign IC webclient profile at multiple hierarchical levels, so for example one at organisation root level and a different one for and underlying user (according to the org structure defined in PPOMA_CRM). When you log on to IC webclient with this user, a pop-up will be displayed asking you to select the appropiate display.
I don't think it's possible to assign multiple profiles for the same organizational entity, but I can't verify this right now.
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Do I need to set AI colour profiles for use in ID?

My previous set up:
Mac
CS2 (Illustrator, Photoshop, Bridge)
Quark XPress 7
My new set up:
PC (Win 7)
CS5 (Illustrator, Photoshop, Bridge, InDesign)
My problem:
I work for a company that prints newspapers, but my dept also does work for glossy sheetfed printers (magazines leaflets etc)
All my work is exclusively CMYK.
With my previous set up - I didn’t want to have to switch my colour profiles via Bridge as I was constantly juggling two types of jobs:
Our tabloid press - Profile - ISOnewspaper26v4 (CMYK)
Sheetfed Printers - Profile - ISO Coated V2 (Fogra 39) (CMYK)
So I set my CS2 Suite colour settings to ISO Coated V2 (Fogra 39) and set an action in Photoshop to convert jpegs / eps photos to ISOnewspaper26v4.
So my CS2 working space was set for Sheetfed glossy publications and if I wanted to set a picture to the correct profile for newsprint I just had to open the picture and hit the action that applied the ISOnewspaper26v4 profile.
Regarding Quark – I set up separate templates for each type of job:
One for Profile - ISO Coated V2 (Fogra 39) and one for - Profile - ISOnewspaper26v4.
Regarding Illustrator - I found that Quark 7 didn’t differentiate between Illustrator colour profiles, or if it did, it didn’t show up in ‘Usage’.
If I went to Quark Usage and went to ‘Profiles’ it only listed the Quark profile and any Photoshop profiles, not any Illustrator profiles.
So in Illustrator I just set colour profiles to ‘do not colour manage this document’. So that I only had to worry about changing profiles for Photoshop jpegs / eps’s.
So I had a good little system going that served me well and now my company decided to move us to PC’s and CS5; and I still have the same problem – juggling newsprint jobs and glossy magazine jobs and not wanting to have to synchronise my CS suite colour settings every time I switch between jobs...
So I was hoping to stick with my little system on PC / CS5.
So basically my question is, do I need to worry about Illustrator colour profiles if I am bringing Illustrator files into InDesign? (To clarify, my Illustrator files are always pure vector, so there is no chance of some rogue RGB jpeg sneaking through on a Illustrator file)
Im open to suggestions regarding my set up, but really would prefer not to have to keep switching my colour profiles.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

First, I wasn't suggesting that your PDFs be exported to RGB, but it is a common workflow these days to keep photos in RGB until you convert them to the correct profile during the export process. This maximizes the potential for re-purposing your documents and allows you to use the same RGB photos for different output purposes without having to do separate CMYK conversions for each destination, so long as you don't need to do any tweaking after the conversion.
And to answer your question, if the .ai files have no embedded color profile they will ALWAYS be considered to use whatever the CMYK working space is in your ID file, so the numbers will be preserved. This means that there will be slight differences in color on output on different devices (the whole point of color management, after all, is to preserve the appearance of colors by altering the numbers for the output device).
Does the vector work you get from Thinstock come with an embedded profile? Is there any color that is critical for matching, such as a corporate color (which should be spot, but that's a different discussion), or do you use the same art in both the newspaper and magazine, and does the client expect a match (which we know isn't going to happen anyway)?
If there's no embedded profile when you start, there's no way to know what the color was supposed to look like, so color management is not possible, really. You can assign a profile, but you'd be guessing. Since the correct appearance at that point is unknown continuing with out color management shouldn't present a problem. The only case where you would need to manage the vector art would be if the color APPEARANCE is critical or you need it to match across different outputs, and in that case you would need to assign a profile and allow ID to preserve the profile on import and remap the numbers, which means you would likely get rich blacks someplace. Since it's unlikely that you can get a good match going from glossy to newsprint, I probably wouldn't even try -- you wouldn't want, for example, to tag the art as newsprint, and have it print subdued on the gloss if it would look better or more correct with the other profile. Color management would be much more useful if you were going from sheetfed to web on the same stock.

CMYK Profile for Printing

Hi
I have just migrated from CS3 to CS4 Extended. And now when I convert my image from RGB to CYMK, I am asked to set up a profile. I use photoshop for press printing. Which default CYMK profile I should go for?
Thanx
Max

OK. First, Rick McCleary's advice was good, best case scenario is to have a custom ICC profile describing your precise print conditions (your in-house press, the print standard, the inks, stock).
If you don't have such a profile you can use others. The three Rick mentioned describe various print conditions on coated paper. Each has a specified total ink limit which is an important consideration. To check this, make a blank CMYK document. Assign the profile. Hit "D". Click on the foreground black color and add the CMYK numbers
Japan newspaper has a TIL of 240. The profile describes an average newspaper print condition in Japan.
US Web Coated SWOP has TIL of 300, with black ink limit of 90. It describes US Web Press printing to SWOP standard on a coated sheet. The two Web profiles Rick McCleary specified have TIL of 307 and 300, with black ink limits of 97 and 98.
TIL needs to be less for uncoated stock. It can't accept as much ink. As the paper stacks up at the delivery end, if there is too much ink it can offset on the back side of the sheet. This is especially likely to happen with a large image with lots of shadow area.
Since you mentioned US Web Coated SWOP and Japan Newspaper, perhaps you've been using them in CS3. If so, and your press runs have been consistent and reliable, you could also use the same profiles in CS4.
Message was edited by: Printer_Rick (added items, fixed wording and incorrect numbers)

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