WebCenter Suite buyers better off buying BPM Suite?

Just wondering if anyone else who looking to just acquire WebCenter Suite is now looking to acquire it via an Oracle BPM Suite purchase. From what I can tell the copy of WebCenter suite included with BPM Suite is not usage restricted. So for about the same cost as just WebCenter Suite you can also get all the BPM and SOA capabilities via a purchase of BPM Suite plus the pre-requisite SOA Suite and WebLogic Suite purchases.
Anyone else onto this?

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I have learn that In order to use "Oracle BPM Suite 11g" require to have "Oracle SOA Suite 11g" components to install first. Does it means that :
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I hope you can help providing the answers to these questions. THank you very much in advance.
Best Regards
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This is a question best answered by your Oracle reseller or Oracle account manager to give you all the details but I hope this brief answer helps:
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Nasir

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As per other experts...
There is not much difference between hardware configurations for SOA and BPM.
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I have a good knowledge as well as working experience on SOA & Oracle SOA Suite 11g.
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Rich
Here's what I confirmed with the Oracle BPM product manager a couple weeks ago about Oracle BPM 11g packaging. I think it coincides with your tread.
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