Webi vs BEx

I am look at reporting (particular Management Information) in the Finance arena.
We have have both SAP BW and BO licenses.
My view at the moment is that we should look at the following reporting tools:
Xcelcius for Executive Dash Boards
WebI (or BEx Analyser) for data analysis.
I do not see Crystal reports or Voyager in the mix as the above tools fill the gaps - correct me if I am wrong.
I am finding it hard to distinguish between using WebI or BEx u2013 the decider could be that BEx development seems to be frozen by SAP (prior to it being replaced with BO Advanced Analysis).
So in summary I would use Xcelcius and WebI with SAP BI as my Data Warehouse.
Do you see any negatives in this approach?
Thanks
Patrick

Web Intelligence (called Interactive Analysis in XI 4.0) is an ad-hoc reporting tool ie. you can let your users build their own reports by quering snapsnots of the data
BEx (to be replaced by Advanced Analysis) is an OLAP tool ie. you can use it to navigate and perform data analysis in OLAP structured data.
Crystal Reports is a standard reporting tool providing you with very sophisticated formating and calculation capabilities.
Voyager is the former BusinessObjects OLAP tool and is replaced with Advanbced Analysis.
In my opinion WebI and BEx (or better Interactive Analysis & Advanced Analysis) do not directly compete. If you want your users to perform data analysis directly on the cube use BEx (Adavanced Analysis). If you want your users to pull their data and build ad hoc reports that answer business questions with adavanced graphical capabilities use Web Intelligence.
WebI also offers analysis capabilites (drill-up, drill down, drill through) but the BEx tools are more efficient when it comes to the SAP BW OLAP data model.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Stratos

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