Webservice to IDOC : Bridge sync/async

Hi,
I have a simple scenario where we send data synchronously via webservices and idoc would be created in target system.
So I need to create a sync/async bridge.
But i have a doubt in first receiver step and its properties:
Syncronous interfaces --> it must be a SYNC and abstract message interface
Message --> It must be an element of container. When i create element in container, only abstract ASYNC message interface could be selected.
Then, with this configuration, error " Message to be received and synchronous interface do not have identical types " is returned.
How to do it?
Thanks, in advance
Carme.

Hi Carme,
Just make sure you are making a SYNC/ASYNC bridge in BPM as explained in the following doc's
saptechnical. com/Tutorials/XI/SYNCASYNC/Page2.htm
Alternatively you can use the BPM pattern; BpmPatternSyncAsyncBridge for the same.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/83/d2a84028c9e469e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm

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Namespace: http://sap.com/xi/XI/System/Patterns
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/f9/66bf40ad090366e10000000a1550b0/RN_XI_DE_neu.pdf
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Ya then u can use the transform Step in between the
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You are right in real time this will be not possible to even use the two S/A in one process.
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