Weird Bug / Export Settings / Workflow Question

I keep running into this issue and have been unable to find a solution for it. I'm exporting HD video sequences (1080i 60i preset) from premiere pro CS4 using Adobe Media Encoder. I want to create files that are nice high quality without being huge, since I have to send these off to clients on a vast array of different systems, both mac and pc, and they have to be delivered via web.
I found that the H.264 apple ipod video large preset in AME works very well as far as file size / quality. The problem is, for whatever reason, this codec does not seem to play properly on 99% of clients systems, the playback seems to jump from one frame to the next and back, its a very odd looking jitter type issue. And no, not everyone is on a PC, even folks on MACs here in the office have the same issue playing it in quicktime. I'm stumped as to what is causing that, but I assume its a codec / quicktime issue, maybe not though...
So, in an effort to curtail that, I tried exporting video from AME as quicktime and changing the quicktime codec to H.264. The problem with that route is the files are huge. They play stably, but I can't send a 2gb file over the web in any reasonable timeframe.
If anyone could help me out either by telling me how I'm screwing up my export settings, or if they have a setting that works better I'm all ears. This has gotten incredibly frustrating.

I use to have the same exact issue when sending files to my clients for review.
What I starded doing is exporting to windows avi and throwing the file in..... believe it or not! windows movie maker to make it smaller and email it.
The TV Station that I do work for can only accept 5mb size files via email and that's the only way they want it.
They don't want to deal with "YouSendIt" or anything else. Of course the files I send are only 30seconds long. TV ads. but that was my workaround.
They did not get the best quality delivered but it's pretty good for them to see the ad and approve it.
They said it plays clean that way and I haven't had any more complaints.
those are my 2 cents, hope it helps.

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    Safe Harbor Computers

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