Weird Channel Strips in Environment

when I click on 'new'/ 'channel strip' ( any type) in environment they show up on the monitor in piecemeal fashion. clicking on area where strip should be eventually brings up entire channel strip. has anyone else had this problem? my suspicion is that it is either a hard drive or memory problem and has little or nothing to do with Logic Studio. using a octo core 2.8 mac pro with 6 gigs of ram.

I'm on a very decently powered Mac and I too get sluggish graphics when renaming MIDI parts in the arrange window. It gets really nasty with multi instruments such as Stylus RMX and Phatmatik Pro, and that's only by selecting them.
The coveted Logic Pro update.........when indeed.
We'll see what happens.

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Environment Channel Strips view like the mixer window?

Is there a chance to set the environment Channel Strips view like the mixer window?
The mixer has the new graphic view whereas the environment has the old LP9 graphic view

Requesting features here... doesn't achieve much as the Dev team do not frequent this forum...
Try using the feedback form instead....
https://www.apple.com/feedback/logic-pro.html

LPX: Environment-mixer layer bug when moving channel strips

Please test if you experience the same bug on your system: Open a LP9 song in LPX - go to Environment / Mixer layer - move a few channel strips a little. I tested on two computers and the channel strips jump to random locations. It doesn't happen with all of them right away, so you might have to move a few of them initially. But eventually (after a minute max) most if not all exhibit this behavior.
I also had this happen in new LPX songs.
Please let me know if you are able to reproduce this.

Right Jeanne, should have realized.
A good workaround for this, if you want to see the mask as you move or transform, is to just hit the backslash key to see the rubylith of the alpha channel. That displays correctly.
CB

Apple midi loops load incorect channel strip

when i preview a midi apple loop in the loop browser it sounds fine, but when i drag it onto an inst. channel it loads up all the wrong channel strip info. it will load the Garage band sampler but the correct samples do not load. I have used Redmatica's EXS manager and the Inst. are connected to the correct samples, and still no luck. even if i go into the EXS24 and try to load the Garage band Inst it does nothing (not even a warning saying it cant find samples) it stays unloaded. this has mainly been the drums from jam pack 2. I have reinstalled them twice. initialized my drive and reinstalled everything .
has anyone experienced something like this?

Good question with a complex answer. Let's say you have three synths you want to layer together, EXS24, ES1 and ES2. On one of those tracks in your arrange window, drop in your midi arrangement, for this example we'll say it's the EXS24. You'll notice a "plug" on the top right corner of the channel strips. Locate the plug on the EXS 24, click + hold and drag this plug to the ES1. Now repeat the process for the ES1 to the ES2. You have now changed all the instruments together, and they will respond to the the midi input from the base synth, i.e. the EXS 24.
To make this easier, it may help you to create a new layer in the environment window and then place the channel strips for those instruments on this layer. This will keep things organized for your workflow, but it's entirely optional. Hope this helps. Check out macprovideo.com for more environment + midi tricks.

Solo Button in Channel Strip with Red Line

Solo Button in Channel Strip with Red Line through it and it won't solo?
How'd it happen and how do you get rid of it?
Thanks!

Try This----From the Manual
Logic Pro, Express: Solo Safe mode may not remain disabled for a particular channel strip
Symptoms
In certain projects, "Solo Safe" mode for a channel strip may enable each time you load the project, even after you disable it and save the project.
Resolution
When a channel strip in Logic is "Solo Safe", it remains audible, even when other channel strips are soloed. Solo Safe is indicated by a diagonal red line through the solo button on a channel strip.
You can manually toggle the solo safe status of a channel strip by Control-clicking its solo button. There are times when you may find that a particular audio channel strip in a project reverts to solo safe mode when you load the project, even after you manually disable solo safe. Here is why that may happen and steps you can take to prevent it from occurring.
A Logic project contains a special audio channel strip used for pre-listening to audio in the Sample Edit window, Audio Bin, and Loop Browser. When you create a Logic project from one of the factory templates, this channel strip is assigned to "Audio 256". This channel strip stays in solo safe mode so that you can always preview audio. The image below shows the channel strip for a new, empty project.
If there is no audio channel strip in a project assigned to "Audio 256", Logic will use the highest-numbered available audio channel for pre-listening. When the project is loaded, that channel strip will be put into solo safe mode. You may find this happens in older projects that you open in Logic 8, or in cases where you have deleted the "Audio 256" channel strip in a Logic 8 project. To prevent this from affecting channel strips you are using in a project's arrangement, follow these steps:
Choose Window > Environment.
From the Environment window menu, choose New > Channel Strip > Auxiliary. A channel strip will appear in the environment.
Select the channel strip. It will highlight.
In the Device parameter box in the upper left of the Environment window, click the arrows to the right of "Channel" and choose Audio > Audio 256 from the menu.
Select the text tool, click on the name below the channel strip and name it "Prelisten".

Basic Q, Routing all the audio tracks to a bus or aux channel strip ?

I'm a little confused on this issue.
I've been doing separate tracks for the sax solos and vocals using the best parts of several tracks with automation. I've been adding the same effect in each track separately and I know this is not good. I'd like to send all the sax tracks to an aux. strip with an effect and all the vocal tracks to another strip with a different effect but I'm just a little confused about it. I see in the Mixer you can add AUX channels but I'm not sure whether to use stereo or mono for this situation ? It seems like I should use stereo because many effects are stereo.

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Ok, select all your vocal tracks in your mixer->channels strips turn grey->now in the third box above the Channelstrip fader select the output to be e.g. Bus 1->Logic will automatically route Bus 1 to Aux 1 if you haven't created Busses in your environment before->insert your fx into the Aux->select all your Sax tracks->route them to Bus 2->insert your fx->done
I guess you shift select from the arrange window for multiple selections in the mixer but I just did them one at a time.
In this situation there appears to be no need to use the add AUX button. In the lower of the two I/O slots I selected Bus1 for the Sax and a new Aux1 track was created. For the Vocal I selected Bus2 and a new Aux2 was created.
---Thank you Sampleconstruct . I'm still in the dark but this was a huge help.

Disappearing Channel Strip slots & Plug-ins?

Just bouncing down a project i've almost finished. For some reason (and i have experienced this problem before over a few versions of Logic now) the top section of the control strip for outputs 1-2, 3-5, 5-6 and plugs-ins used for them have disappeared. Instead of the usual display of slots which you could select various plug-ins in, all i can see now is a solid grey strip (if this making sense?). Anyone know how to make the full strip visible again? I've tried looking in Environment, but its just the same there.
I've thought of simply changing the plug-ins to by-pass via the automation on the arrange page but they aren't even listed now. Odd
Here is a link to an image to help illustrate the problem
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/kingcannibal/bugger.png

That's due to the Master fader being surround. So either your prelisten channels turned surround when listening to some surround loops from the Library or any other channel in your project is set to surround causing the Master channels to switinch to surround mode. If you locate the surround channel in your environment/mixer and switch it back to stereo everything will be fine again.

Copy Channel strips between songs

Hi I am working on a mix but its spread over two songs, I want to copy the drums and bass channel strips plugins etc from one song to another. I know if I go to audio config I can copy paste the hole song settings but I only want the first 16 tracks with plugins and fader levels. I tried a simple copy paste on the channels from the enviroment but it didn't seem to work.......

Unfortunately, you have discovered a missing feature that Logic desperately needs, if it is to continue using the word "Pro" in it's title.
As you know, you can copy from the audio configuration window, but that will replace all other track assignments, plug-ins etc... not the intended result.
You can place those 16 tracks on their own environment layer, and import that layer into the second song, but that will only copy volume and panning assignments, not plug-ins, or output assignments.
It's my opinion, that in this particular situation, this is probably the best approach:
Save channel strip settings for the first 16 tracks. Open the second song, and load each tracks channel strip. It's not hard to do... just requires a lot of mouse clicks...
As for volume and pan settings, my advice would be to open both songs at the same time. arrange the first 16 tracks of song 1's mixer at the top of your screen, and the first 16 tracks of song 2 at the bottom of your screen.
Simply set all the volumes and pans on song two manually, by looking at what's in song 1.
One trick I would suggest: Before trying to open both songs at once, disable the audio driver from the Audio Hardware & Drivers window. This will save many minutes of the spinning beachball, while Logic tries to load all plug-ins, AI's, etc, from the second song. Since you're only opening them for a visual cue, you won't need the audio driver active for this task. Trust me, doing this will make it go very fast, and save you lots of aggravation, while switching between songs, and resizing the mixer windows to see what's going on.
Don't forget to turn the audio driver back on, when you're ready to actually hear anything.
The good news is, you'll probably have all 16 tracks set-up properly, faster than the time it took me to type all of this!
Hope that helps...

Can program change info be sent to the channel strip?

Hi there, I have old logic midi files to update for use in logic pro7. I have set up an autoload template which I then drag the old logic files into so that I get the environment settings that I want and have some uniformity with all my files.
Is there a way I can get program change info and midi instrument settings from the event list, (in the midi tracks dragged in) transfered/sent into the channel strip?
Can the track info like control change, volume settings, pg ch, etc be sent to the channel strip so that they match?
I struggled trying to explain that I hope it's clear. Please help if you can.
Cheers,
Mojo

i think you have to double the track, and have the different CS on each channel

How to add Prelisten channels to the Environment?

I think I deleted my Prelisten channels, and I can't figure out how to add a channel strip for Prelisten to the mixer or to the environment. I'd never used the Prelisten function yet since upgrading to LP 8; thus, I'm not sure what I did, but I think I deleted Prelisten somehow while cleaning up my last session.
Any help would be great. Thanks in advance!

OK. I think I just figured it out. I just added another stereo pair, and the new pair is working as Prelisten. Sweet.
I'd deleted every unused channel strip, and in order for Prelisten to work, your song has to have at least one additional stereo channel strip, apparently.

How do I get an instrument channel strip?

hello all, I am trying to get a track to be assigned to a "New instrument" icon in the Environment. Now if I re assign a track to that icon I get a GM channel strip instead of an instrument channel strip-any ideas how to change this? I am using Logic pro 9.1.1.

Bedankt voor de antwoord, Jan. I better switch to english so others may learn. I am setting up Pete Thomas' "combo re-mapper" and it needs to start there. Google the two terms and you may find Petes' web site-lots of info and nice stuff for Logic. It turns out that I had to remove a vink[check] in the prefs for automatic channel strip handling to get the Environment drop down list to allow instrument channel strips.
Als je wil, kunnen we elkaar soms helpen als er geen antwoord op de forums voor handen is.

Odd stuff - recording delay - automatic channel Strip changes

Recently I upgraded my interface from a MOTU 828MKII, to a Metric Halo 2882. I also upgraded from Logic 8 to 9. The problem is, I did this in the middle of a project. This project was/is just a test of a whole new upgrade to my home studio including some preamps/mics/interface/acoustic treatment/etc. Up to this point I mainly recorded my own stuff (5yrs), no big deal. But I'm thinking of moving this into a part time gig. So I asked a some friends if they'd be interested in free recording as guinea pigs.
The first day (Saturday) we tracked drums into the MOTU on Logic 8, as my Metric Halo interface hadn't arrived yet. Everything went good. That Monday, my Metric Halo arrived. I switched out the MOTU, and had the 2882 up and running by Wednesday. Thursday, I installed Logic 9 and updated to 9.1. I had all weekend to work though some of the new stuff, and it all sounded good.
By Monday I had the guitar/singer come by to lay down the rhythm guitar. When we recorded it, with the same settings as in the previous session, although with Logic 8 and a Motu interface, the guitar was around 246 samples late. I adjusted the Recording Delay ahead 246 samples, and it made it slower. I adjusted back 246, still not right. So we called the session.
I've scoured forums, and the only info I can find is plugin latency, and I/O buffer settings. I never had any issue with the MOTU as far as recording delay goes. I had latency issues, but nothing that actually recorded. It was my understanding that, the I/O buffer only affects the monitoring latency, everything "goes to tape" correctly though. I've spent the last 4-5 days trying to figure this out. If I start a new project with the 2882, everything syncs up great, no delay at all. But if I try to add to any project that was started with the MOTU, and Logic 8, I get a recorded delay.
The frustrating part of this is, last night, I updated Logic to 9.1.1, and recorded a loopback click. It worked fine. No delay at all. I tested a bass through the same recording chain I used before, and it was perfect too. I'm not sure if this was a fix in the new update, or I have some other instability thing going on. Any Ideas there?
Also, after updating last night I had a weird problem with plugins that were disabled, suddenly re-engaging. It seemed as though when I would do any changes in the MIO Console, I would come back to Logic, and random plugins would be re-enabled. I'll check tonight if this is repeatable, but last night it was a bother. I also had a Focusrite LiquiMix running at the same time. Maybe this was causing a problem. It did seem to only affect the channel strips that the LiquidMix inserts were on.
Thanks,
Erik

Thanks very much; I'm still perplexed though. You're right, the "mono->stereo" plug-ins yield stereo effects for the guitar; but I'm referring to the pre-assembled "sets" of plug-ins that are accessed by clicking on the word "inserts" (above the various slots for plug-ins). When you click on this word, all sorts of effects-sets are offered: for drums, vocals, pianos, guitars, etc. I'm referring to one for "electric guitar" (under "distorted guitar") called "Angus on SG + MS 1959" (though this is true of the other effects in this same category for electric guitar). Here's why things don't make sense to me: 1) since this effects-set ("Angus...") works just fine if it's applied AFTER I've recorded the guitar dry, why should it NOT work when I'm recording with the effect? I.e., I don't need a special double guitar plug for my Firepod for the effect to work on the signal it HAS recorded; so why should the special double plug be necessary WHILE recording? Meanwhile, 2) given that this is a GUITAR effect (Angus Young playing his Gibson SG through a 1959 Marshall Stack), and guitars always have mono output, then how can it be that Logic, by design, should require users to buy a special stereo plug when using effect-sets specifically designed for guitar? .... That's why I'm perplexed. I do think your two suggestions will work; but it just seems impossible to me that Logic is actually designed to work in this way -- at least not on purpose. On the other hand, I'm a newbie, and I may be missing something that's obvious. Sure would appreciate hearing whether it seems to people that there's a problem with my set-up (or with Logic), or whether the physical stereo-plug solution is actually a well-known practice that I am simply not familiar with. Many thanks!
You have recorded only one chanel on a stereo track.
Use a second input on your firepod or use mono ->
stereo plugins on a mono track to hear them in stereo.
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Automatic management of Channel Strip Objects...

This is the function that automatically creates mixer objects (i.e. channels, auxes, etc) in Logic when you add tracks. Before I discovered it, Logic 8 drove me nuts trying to outthink me, because I have a very specific pre-configured mixer environment I use (I never use the track mixer view, only the environent view). This is because I have two Mackie controls, and I very much like my mixer set up in blocks of sixteen channels (otherwise the control surfaces become kind of arbitrary). I'm also not a big fan of the track mixer because having all the mixer channels oriented in a continuous horizontal fashion gets really silly when you're doing a 56-channel mix (with 20 or so auxes to the right of that!)
Oh yes, my issue...
Even with the "Automatic Management of Channel Strip Objects" checkbox unchecked, Logic still insists on creating new aux objects in the environment when I set up a send. This is annoying and confusing, because dry sound gets routed to the main 1-2 bus (and occasionally confusing, because my default mixer is very large, so the new aux gets put somewhere where you don't immeditely see it).
Hence Logic needs a new command:
"I really, really don't want you to automatically create audio objects for me, I was really serious about it when I unchecked the Automatic Management of Channel Strip Objects checkbox, I am smart enough to handle it on my own, if I wasn't I'd use Garageband, or some other app that doesn't have the word Pro in it"
Maybe something a little shorter would suffice... or just make the Automatic Management of Channel Strip Objects checkbox work properly :>)
Mitchell

well, i work with a static environment layer and the track mixer for years now. this gives me the flexibility i need.
i need the track mixer for the control surface and i like to only see the channels i have in the arrange here. anything else will just waste channels on the control surface.
in addition to this i use a static environment layer for effect returns and stuff like that.
i work with a lot of hardware and this setup of track mixer and environment has been very helpfull when working.
i programmed my control surface so that i can switch between these two with a push of a button.
this is really fast and easy to work with.
maybe this stupid auto toggle back on thing is a bug. i'll writa a bug report and hope they fix it soon.
thanks anyway

Memory problems when using alias channel strips (3.0.2)

I'm having memory issues when using alias channel strips. What is happening is I create one instance of the plugin, say Massive. Then make a bunch of other alias on different patches. When looking at the memory usage everytime I add and alais it increases the memory usage by an amount the same as the origional plugin. ie. add 3 alias and you have 3 times more memory usage. See attached photos.
Original plugin instance ~80mb memory usage
Adding 3 Alias channel strips. ~330mb memory usage
By comparison here is the usage by adding 3 brand new instance of the plugins. ~160mb memory usage
By comparison it is using less memory by having 4 seperate instances of the plugin compared to using 3 alias's of the origional. This doesn't make sense since the whole point of an alias is to save memory by only loading one instance of the plugin.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Jon

What's interesting is that if I, starting with a blank concert, add a Massive to a patch and then make an alias the memory is as you say. But if I make a duplicate of the inital patch and then make alias's of that the memory is lower.
Are you seeing the same with the built-in plug-ins?

How can I set up a Mainstage channel strip to recognize coarse detune?

Can anyone clue me in on how to get Mainstage 2 to recognize coarse detune? Right now I have it set up so that a mainstage channel strip recognizes standard pitch bend messages and I can set the pitch bend range of the associated instrument to 12 (the default for the channel strips appears to be 2), and so standard pitch bend works fine.   But when the pitch bend messages I'm sending are coarse detune, I'm getting zip...nada...nuttin -- even when I have set the pitch bend range for the instrument on the channel strip set to 12.
I don't want to just offset the pitch by a set amount; I want to use coarse detune to bend the pitch by semitones during a performance. If anyone here has any suggestions or knows how to make this happen, I'd really appreciate your help --
thanks in advance,
Lipp

sblipson wrote:
(the default for the channel strips appears to be 2), and so standard pitch bend works fine.
Hi
The default bend range is set within the Instrument plugin setting associated with a channel strip.
sblipson wrote:
But when the pitch bend messages I'm sending are coarse detune, I'm getting zip...nada...nuttin -- even when I have set the pitch bend range for the instrument on the channel strip set to 12.
I don't want to just offset the pitch by a set amount; I want to use coarse detune to bend the pitch by semitones during a performance.
This could depend on the Instrument plugin (which on eare you referring to?).
Try making a knob or fader object in Layout mode and MIDI learn it to incoming PitchBend messages, then map that control to the dtune function.
CCT

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