Weird CPU temperature problem

Hi everyone.
The first time I run my system in the morning,  I'm having high CPU temp readings by Core Center: 71 C, at around 40% CPU usage, running Norton Antivirus '05, and 67 at iddle. In the same conditions, Motherboard Monitor 5 reads: 67 C for N. Antivirus and 63 C at iddle.
So, I restart computer and check BIOS's PCHealth Status. It reads 46 C for CPU temp.
Then I get back to Windows XP (SP2), Core Center reads CPU temp while running N. Antivirus as 53 C, and MBM reads 50 C at 40%-80% CPU usage. At iddle, Core Center reads 49 C, and MBM5 reads 45 C.
Environment temp is about 30 C.
What do you guys think is happening? Do I need to worry about it or not?
Thanks in advance for your input.
My System:
Windows XP PRO (SP2)
MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum BIOS 1.30
Athlon64 3800+ no OC
Leadtek A400 6800GT 256 MB
Crucial Ballistix PC4000 2x 512 MB slots 3 and 4
Zalman 7000B AlCu
Vantec Stealth 470A
Raptor 74GB SATA
Barracuda 7200.7 160 GB SATA
SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum
NEC 3500 DVD-RW
Samsung SB616 DVD-ROM
SpeedTouch 330 ADSL modem.

I was having the same problem as described by the forum user.  Despite my laziness, I even unhooked my CPU fan clean the fan and the CPU and put it back together with Arctic silver.  This helped the idle temperature at START up from 50 degree C down to 43 degree C reading from Core Center.  However, eventually the CPU temp will creep back up to 47 to 50 degrees C.
My breakthrough came when I read one of the thread which said to uninstalled Core Center, once I done that, my CPU temperature at Cold Start and Warm Start seemed to be consistent at around 36 to 40 degree C (I used SpeedFan 4.18 to verify my temp readings I even crossed check the temp reading with SisSandra 2005 and the two readings are consistent).  
I then installed CoreCEnter 1.7.1.0 back and during cold start the temperature will creep back up and keep on increasing.  Once I do a warm start everything is back to normal again.  So after cold start I open both SpeedFan and CoreCenter side by side and I notice the following:
During cold start, CoreCenter never starts the CPU fan at max RPM, it starts around 2200 RPM or so.   Then it would start loading the CPU varying from 1 to 4 to 100% (this happens intermittently so you won't see it if you are not staring at the screen), which would increase the CPU temperature (this is observed in the SpeedFan monitoring screen).    Then it would lower the CPU fan back to 1850 RPM or so and does not increase the fan speed even when temperature goes back up.  The problem does not seem to exist when one does a warm start then CoreCenter lets the fan stays at maximum speed and the temperature is stable.
I noticed when I downloaded the new CoreCenter version 1.7.1.0 software from the MSI web site, it said "fixing fan speed never reach maximum problem", so I believe this is a CoreCenter software bug.  BTW, I just went back to the MSI tech support web site; it no longer showed this message.  I have a feeling that they removed the message from potential liability with high temperature issue that might have led to many MB returns.  (I know this is sounding awfully like a conspiracy theory)  
This is my conclusion:
(1) CPU temp reading from core center is accurate minus about 3 to 4 degree C cross checked again other utilities.  (If you system reaches 60 to 70, I should still be alarmed, do not just let the system idle, because it could be an actual reading minus 3 to 4 degrees).
(2) CoreCenter never let the fan reaches maximum speed during cold start and will load the system gradually therefore increase CPU temperature even more.
(3) After warm start, Core Center goes to normal and let the CPU fan goes back to maximum speed.
I know this is not a very scientific observation, nevertheless it is reproducible on my system.  Please note that I have a Neo Pla set up not Neo Pla 2 therefore results might be different if you have a Neo Pla2 set up.  I really doubt that would be the case since CoreCenter only has one version for both motherboards.
Please give this a try and see what you find, I am curiously to see what other gets.  If we can all produce the same issue, perhaps MSI will come out with an updated version of CoreCenter again.

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