Weird Font Substitution...?

Running Mac G5 2.7 Dual with Tiger 10.4.8. On an intermittent but frequent basis, I'm getting this weird font substitution issue with Mail, Safari and Text Edit. I use Suitcase X1 11.0.2 for font management. Here's a link to an example of what I'm talking about:
http://www.studioa.us/RadioactiveRoman.gif
Anyone have any tips for me?

Anyone have any tips for me?
Get rid of the RadioActive Roman font. It is badly constructed and being confused with other fonts because of that.

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>
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