Weird note display in piano roll

All they notes in the piano roll display have suddenly acquired blocks of colour and a keyboard has appeared on the right hand side with enormous keys. The blocks of colour seem far apart, not at all like the notes that were there before this weird thing happened. I've undone a dozen times but it seems this isn't something I can undo. I can find nowhere to change this and I can find no mention of it in Logic HELP. Can somebody set me straight please?

Yes, sereen, you're right on the money. I was zoomed in until I could see the atoms that made up the notes. The display was so bizarre - each note was contained in a green box with a yellowish edge. Having never seen anything like it I panicked. Thanks for your help.

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Thank You MusicSpirit
This did the trick.
Sorry I didn't have any stars left for you TBirdParis:(
I'll get you next time
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