Weird sort order in Mail

Mail is sorting my messages very strangely. For example, I have a folder with about 2000 messages ranging from sometime in 2004 until this morning. When iPhone Mail pulls it up the first page of messages is from sometime in late 2006. It gets the total number right, so I think it's seeing everything...it's just picking a weird (and not particularly useful) timeframe to show.
Any idea what might be going on - and, more importantly, how to fix it?

I can't help you, but I join you with the same problem ....
Mail downloaded from some time in the past ...
But only for sent folder. In .mac my sent folder actually orders the mails strangely too as opposed to my trash folder that in both the iphone and .mac are ordered properly.
Anyone any help?

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hi all
just browsing through the various ways of viewing songs on the walkman app (i.e. by artist, album & song) and I've realised that some tracks are not sorting correctly.
I know that would suggest a problem with their tagging but I don't think it's that, as I'm pretty careful about tagging and other programs read the id3 tags, etc, properly (and sort properly).
Any suggestions?
I know that your media is scanned (I think on reboot, etc) but is it possibly that the current indexes just need deleting / re-scanning? If so, how do I wipe my music library listing?
Thanks,
Gary

Thommo wrote:
Not sure but when I tag I make sure the tracks from an album have the same Album name and the track tag is added so they are placed in the right order or if I make my own playlist on my Pc then I will retag these with the Album name for example "Main 1" then tag the tracks for the order I want but remove Artist name and replace with "My Tracks" so there can be no issues at all
hi Thommo
Is there any way that the app devs can be advised of this possible issue or we can have a properly informed response on how the app should sort (assuming it is behaving as intended)?
To summarise:
I have a large number of mix tracks by different DJs. They are grouped in separate folders and both their filenames and tags uniquely identify them.
However, they have a common album tag ("online mixes")
Examples:
Athan - online mixes - deepsessions on frisky radio (2015.01)
Athan - online mixes - deepsessions on frisky radio (2014.11)
In terms of tags these read:
artist - athan
album - online mixes
title - deepsessions on frisky radio (YYYY.MM)
year - YYYY
genre - blah blah
N.B. I don't use a track number tag for them
Despite using the above tags, they don't appear to sort by any order that I can work out. Some appear correct then others are out of sequence, with no explanation why.
Normal albums i.e. with multiple tracks and track numbers, sort ok.
I have worked out the year folder issue though - the 2 tracks in a separate group appeared there because Album Artist was, for some reason, populated.
suggested behaviour:
logic would suggest that if there are items which don't have track numbers but are technically in the same folder, should they not get sorted by title or possibly absolute filename (after using the artist and album tags to 'group' them, since they exist)?
Regards,
Gary

Mail Sort Order and Logitech Control Center 3.1

LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader.osax is a Scripting Addition in /library/scriptingadditions that reproducibly causes the sort order in Mail to revert to Date Received/Newest on Top. With LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader.osax in the Scripting Additions folder, you can change the sort order for a folder, but when you click on another folder and return to the original, the sort order reverts to Date Received/Newest on Top.
Removing LCC Scroll Enhancer Loader.osax and restarting Mail remedies this problem.
Can anyone else confirm this occurs in their system as well (10.6.1)?

I upgraded to Snow Leopard (10.6.2) from 10.5 yesterday and noticed this Mail sort problem straight away. Concurrently I upgraded to Default Folder 4.3.3 and LCC 3.1. Following the advice of you guys, I've excluded Mail.app in System Prefs/Default Folder/Settings/Advanced and lo and behold date sort is working normally again.
I mean, I've spent 15 years having most recent at the bottom and it's very wrong to have it at the top!

Itunes sort order different in playlist

I'm having a weird sort order problem... in one playlist - I have the column "album" sorted. The songs names (under "name") for one album sort just fine - the names are "ep 1", "ep 2", "ep 3", etc. and appear in that order.
However, if I click that album column to sort by "album by artist" - the song order changes. now they are seemingly random (although I imagine there has to be a reason behind the order).
The sort order of those songs is even different *in another playlist* - ie, they are not even in the same "random" order they show in when I sort them by "album by artist" in the other playlist above. They're in a "different random" order.
Any ideas?
Message was edited by: AppleJason

That's helpful for my issues with iPhone, which are yet another variation on what I'm talking about - but in going through the article, I couldn't find anything that pointed to why my "name" column is not sorting properly for the same artist album.
Selecting all the songs in that album, get info --> shows the artist, album artist and album names (both album artist and artist are exactly the same) - so my point is there are not some kind hidden character problem - or they wouldn't match and therefore the fields would be blank.
If the "album by artist" is the primary sort, what does itunes use for the secondary column to sort? This should help me answer the problem.... it sure doesn't look like "name" column is used as 2nd... because it's not sorted!
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Mail sort order (time) will not remember my preferences

Hi, I have to reinstall my system from a crash, I copied most files from my backup. After that, I noticed that my mail in the new reinstalled system behaved funny.
It works properly when you quit Mail and restart the application, however, if left alone for a while, say after sleep or working for more than an hour or so, my sort order will be cancelled.
My sort order is by time, where the latest mails are at the bottom, but when I select a different mailbox and return to the previous mailbox, the sort order will always revert to the latest mail on top. There's nothing I can do to make the application stay with latest dates on the bottom. Please help.

Stingbook wrote:
Thanks for your help. What I did is to use time machine and got an old backup of this mail preference file. But that does not seem to work. I did it this way, so I don't have to reestablish my 6 e-mail accounts.
Does that mean the problem is not in the preference file?
yes, unless you restored from some time point when the problem already existed it does mean that it's not the preference file. did you quit Mail before restring the file?

Yahoo mail sort order in inbox

Hi all,
My problem initially started with the push function for yahoo mail not working. The additional problem that I now have is that the emails in my inbox as well as sent items are not appearing in the right sort order (most recent to oldest). The inbox and the sent box both are showing the last 50 emails first.
Any suggestions.
Thanks

Sorry for the double-post here, but after reading the fix suggested at http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3066818&#3066818 more carefully, my problem is resolved.
As it turns out, you have to choose the group in Address Book, then select all the names, then drag all the selected names to the Pages doc for the mail merge to sort in alpha order.
Part of the problem I was experiencing has to do with the click-and-drag lag in Address Book. If you select all the entries, then click-and-drag quickly toward Pages, the list will deselect all but the first entry.
Instead, you have to click-and-hold-and-drag-very-slowly out of the Address Book window. I'm not sure why, but when I attempted (and repeated) the process, that's what I found.
I hope my error helps another.
I'm having a problem similar to other Pages + Address
Book users. When I select an Address Book group
(about 140 addresses) to merge into Pages, they come
up in a seemingly random order.
In Address Book, the contacts are listed by Surname
(Last Name). In the Pages document, I am only
inserting the First Name field, but I would expect
them to merge in alpha order, as they are in Address
Book.
Alas, that is not the case.
The fix suggested at
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=306
6818&#3066818 did not solve my problem. I have tried
dragging and dropping the group into the Pages master
document -- it simply comes up with a different,
random sort order.
Has anyone else faced the sort order problem from
Address Book into Pages successfully? Any help would
be welcome.
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Screwed up mail sorting order on N8

Hi,
I'm experiencing strange behaviour with my N8's mail client (Anna 25.007) and my ovi-adress:
When I open mail via web-interface the order is sorted by date - everything OK (see mail_web.jpg).
In my N8's mail client the sorting order seems screwed up since only the very recent mail by beta labs is on top and otherwise I see mails from far earlier (see N8.jpg).
I've tried to delete and re-install the mail account on my N8 several times but the order remains the same.
Any clues how to solve this?
Thx
Nokia N8 dark grey, Symbian Belle
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Hi,
I'm experiencing strange behaviour with my N8's mail client (Anna 25.007) and my ovi-adress:
When I open mail via web-interface the order is sorted by date - everything OK (see mail_web.jpg).
In my N8's mail client the sorting order seems screwed up since only the very recent mail by beta labs is on top and otherwise I see mails from far earlier (see N8.jpg).
I've tried to delete and re-install the mail account on my N8 several times but the order remains the same.
Any clues how to solve this?
Thx
Nokia N8 dark grey, Symbian Belle
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N9 Photo Gallery sort order - based on what?

Hello,
I am thrilled with my N9, but have one problem: I want to use the phone to keep not only photos made with it. I therefore saved extra photos in the Pictures folder. They appear in the gallery, but in a weird order, not based on either the name, EXIF date, modification date or creation date. Is there a possibility to sort them on either of these? All I want is to control the sort order. After all, it is MY gallery...
On my previous phone (N8) sorting was based on the last modification date. Also not optimal (EXIF date would have been perfect) but still controllable.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Well, maybe those pictures were never edited outside the phone, I don't know.
Anyway, I believe I found the explanation: I exported the photos from Picasa, maxing them to a resolution of 1600xXXX. This way all files were created... today. Nevertheless the EXIF information is correctly saved by Picasa, so Date Image Taken was preserved. Although I modified in all files the creation date to be equal to EXIF Date Image Taken (ACDSee/batch/AdjustTimeStamp) , and then also renamed all pictures based on that, the "new" creation date still remains saved somewhere in the picture files and the Gallery sorts the pictures on it! The pictures were sorted in the reversed order I exported them from Picasa... Bad.
Anyway, since this is not a request forum, it would be futile to say (again) that Nokia should use the EXIF Date Picture Taken for picture sorting. So I don't say it (!).

Sort Order of All Unplayed Episodes

The sort order of all unplayed episodes is from Newest to Oldest, which is backwards for me.
Why would I listen to the Newest episode first? It completely breaks any chronology of the podcasts!
I found that you can change this for individual podcasts if you find the details by clicking on the podcast title to open its preferences, but the big list does not have the option.
Please, give me the option to ORDER THE UNPLAYED EPISODES OLDEST AT TOP TO NEWEST AT BOTTOM!
Thanks, in advance.

Tom Peterson wrote:
This did the trick for me, Harry. Thanks!
I was surprised to see you can/must set this on a podcast-by-podcast basis, but it is hard to argue with having finer control. Oldest to newest seems like a slightly more logical default, but that may just be personal preference.
Not to split off in a new direction, but if I then subscribe to a podcast in Podcasts app that I already subscribe to in iTunes, is it recommended I turn off syncing between iTunes and my iPhone for that podcast? Or will this question basically go away when iOS 6.0 is released?
Do the Podcasts app and the Music/iPod app share podcast files? Or will they be duplicated on my iPhone?
Tom
The podcasts will duplicate themselves on your device. I turned off podcast syncing on my devices. But the weird thing is that when I sync, podcasts then copy themselves to my iTunes library. Either sync or don't, but don't copy to both.

Photoshop CS3 web gallery bugs(?); vanishing metadata, bad sort order

Running OS 1.5.4 on 24" Imac, I'm attempting to generate a "horizontal slideshow" from bridge-selected files in Photoshop CS3.
[Sounded like the problem in this post: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b5a9fe/2 but on re-reading I've decided it's different so I'm giving it it's own thread, with more detail...]
Here's my experience:
1) Description and title show up for a second on the first slide, then revert to just the blank template on that and all subsequent slides (title: [blank] description: [blank]....
Hitting "refresh" produces the descriptive metadata for a tantalizing moment, then it' s back to the blank template for this and all subsequent slides. It does this both for Safari and Firefox.
You can view this behavior in a slideshow at http://oasisdesign.net/projects/earthtoilet/
If it asks for a password, use---
user:earthling
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"preserve all metadata" is checked.
I've tried all combinations of checking/ unchecking "title, description, filename" for labeling...also, making slideshows with just one or two slides to reduce the chance that it's a weird character issue of the type some other folks have experienced...
2) additionally, the web gallery is not respecting the manual sort order in Bridge, which is the source of the files. The help files say the slideshow should follow the manual sort order in Bridge.
3) Finally, metadata entered in bridge metadata tab sometimes vanishes, sometimes metadata entered in file info wouldn't show in the metadata tab.
Thanks for your help!!
Art
BTW, here's the related issues I found:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b5a9fe/2
...After some investigation, I found that the descriptions were disappearing only for photos that had a Return / Line Break in the description. If you go back and make sure all of your descriptions are a single line, it works fine....
=Don't have line breaks, nor "and" nor &...
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bff9de1/0
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bd62ec3/0

OK...here's the hack I used to get around what I'm now totally convinced are program bugs and shortcomings relative to advertised functionality, for anyone else who has to deal with this, followed by my (suggested fixes to Adobe)...
1) Sort everything the way you want in bridge.
2) Make meta descriptions w/o weird characters (a warning here would be helpful)
3) Use "batch rename," with "copy to another folder" to give the images totally plain vanilla, DOS-style file names (001.jpg, 002.jpg...). This solves most filename issues and the works around web gallery's failure to recognize bridge sort order in one go. Note that you can irrevocably screw up the names of all your original files if you're not very careful to COPY at this step.
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Copy multiple items from ical alters sorting order

I use OSX leopard with iCal 3.0.1. I would like to select multiple items and copy-paste them into a text document or spreadsheet. I use iCal to keep track of people's working hours and I need to send the hours to salary admin at the end of each month.
Using the "search" option within iCal, I can select all item concerning the working hours of, let's say, "George". If I copy-paste them into another application (Word, Mail, Numbers, Excel) the sorting order of the items altered. It looks like a rather random order. I want to have it ordered by date opbviously! Does anyone recognize this problem?

Pieter,
would send feedback to apple on this, recreated the behavior on both of my macs for multiple search results, and each time same thing, order is altered...
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ical.html

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Is this a bug, is this normal, what am I missing? Seems like incredibly basic functionality.
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Driving me crazy and need solution. Help!
Thanks!

Yeah, it is a collection within a collection set. I just upgraded from 3.0 to 3.3 and it seems to have fixed it. Was weird that a bug like that could make it to version 3.2 before being fixed but as long as it's fixed now.
Wouldn't happen in collections with much less images, was only happening in the one with 500+ and they were all virtual copies. Not sure if that had anything to do with it but figured I'd add the info here in case anyone else has problems.

First name last name sort order-how to correct on iphone

hello all.
i have mobile me (hate that name) set correctly with the sort order of first name first in my extensive contacts list and the same in my address book on my main mac, yet my new iphone stubbornly refuses to order the contacts correctly, instead listing names by second name. as a result i am finding it almost impossible to use effectively as i know very few people by their last names.
help!
thanks

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How do I change the mailmerge sort order

When I want to send a Mail Merge using Pages to read an Address Book Group sorted by Surname, the resulting merge is produced sorted by First Name. This means every Merge has to be manually sorted, which is time consuming and wrong.
A merge letter I have used successfully for over three years, every time sorted by Surname, now produces the wrong sort order and cannot be changed. If I change the sort order in Address Book Preferences from Surname to First Name and back again the behaviour is unchanged. If I change the Sort order to "by First Name" it stays the same. Nothing seems to reassert the correct sorting order ie by Surname.
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Basilisk,
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Arrange your Desktop so you can see your Group list in Contacts and your new blank Numbers Sheet at the same time.
Drag your Contacts Group to your blank Numbers Sheet, creating a Table in Numbers with all the data of your contacts. You won't see all the data right away because some of it is in Hidden Columns.
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Hi, after one of the recent Itunes updates I noticed the sorted order on my play lists is no the same on the phone.
I like to sort by date modified so that my pod casts are in the proper order on the phone. I can work around this by manually picking the next podcast, but still the problem remains and is a software issue which should be fixed.
So, anyone else notice this?
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Mike

Yeh I've noticed the same thing, ever since this new iTunes update.
Clearly in iTunes I have my songs sorted in alphabetical order but when I sync to my iTouch the same playlist in the iTouch sorts in a random order.
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