Welcome and Rules of Engagement

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Research Resources and Rules of Engagement

Hi experts and wanna-be experts:
Welcome to the Utilities space on SCN.
Before anything else, read The SCN Rules of Engagement
Update 09/09/2012 - search enhancements are available in SCN:
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Before posting your question or response, please ensure that you have followed these basic rules:
Search the forum to ensure that the question has not already been asked and/or answered. Use the text or tag filter. Duplicate posts will be removed. Consistent violations will result in loss of forum privileges.
Ask specific questions - how can I default value 'X' in process Y instead of tell me how ISU works. Here is a blog Asking Good Questions in the SCN Discussion Spaces will help you get Good Answerswith hints on how to ask questions the right way and [another|http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] with great internet forum tips. Generic posts will be removed. Consistent violations will result in loss of forum privileges.
Asking for documentation about billing or meter reading, etc is not allowed. Posts will be locked immediately.
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Keep your threads updated - when they are solved, mark them as such and identify helpful/correct answers where appropriate. If you solve it on your own, provide the solution you have found so that others can benefit. Here is a helpful document explaining how and why to do this
Here are the best, most relevant places to look for information on the SAP for Utilities solution:
Search the SAP help website - http://help.sap.com/utilities for the Utilities Industry help
Look for training courses for the SAP for Utilities solution - https://training.sap.com/sa/en/curriculum/sfi_ut-sap-for-utilities-g-en?
How to find a BAPI - Use the BAPI Explorer
          http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/EN/3e/ecf226942511d2ad4b080009b0fb56/frameset.htm
Search the SAP Service Marketplace. There is a good deal of Utilities Industry process and solution documentation available there, including the new BPEM cookbook supplied by Fritz in May, 2013.
          https://service.sap.com/utilities
          https://service.sap.com/erp-ehp
Search sap.com site for white papers and other documentation.
          http://www8.sap.com/mk/get/customer_assets
Check also the Utilities BPX Community and the wikis, blogs and other assets available there.
          http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/bpx/utilities
Check the SAP website for Utilities Industry
          http://www.sap.com/index.epx#/industries/utilities.epx
          http://www.sap.com/industries/utilities/index.epx
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kind regards,
bill.
Edited by: William Eastman on Nov 5, 2009 8:52 PM
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Do you know where is the rules of engagement ? How often do you read It ?

Hi,
Do you know where is the [rules of engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/x/FgQ] ?
Many people know exactaly where it is, but i noted that major of SCN never read this document.
Today i noted this document link in:
Left box menu in [Community Guidelines|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/communityguidelines] on the folowing pages: [Forum|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/forums] , [Wiki|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki] and [Blogs|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs].
[Expert Forums|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/index.jspa?categoryID=1]
Some Forum has a locked thread like [Welcome and Rules of Engagement|Welcome and Rules of Engagement;
There people that never saw this document before. Others already saw but they never read( this is other problem ).
The SCN is a dinamyc community so the rule can be changed at any moment. How often do you check it for updatings ? We know that the general rule probably won't be changed but new rules can be added !
Wouldn't It be a good idea if this document link stay in All Threads next to link Reply to this Thread or in any place of this page ?
Thanks,
Marcelo Ramos

Hi Marilyn,
Please tell me if I'm wrong but when I see new SCN member or someone that doesn't respect the community's rules I add the one of the following phrase:
"Welcome to SDN Forum. Don't forget to read the [rules of engagement|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/rulesofEngagement] !" As the follow [thread|Program with Top includes;.
"Don't forget to close this thread and all yours previous when your question be answered !" As the follow [thread|ABAP or MII;.
"Lets make the SDN better we are responsible for this !" As the follow [thread|want to upgrade GUI to ECC 6.0.;.
"PS.: Others SDN member can use your question resolve their problems, so is important you don't forget to mark this Thread as answered when your question be answered !" As the follow [thread|SAP ECC 6.0 GUI;
I noted that it's working for some people ! mainly for New SCN members !
Best Regards.
Marcelo Ramos

Welcome & Rules of Engagement

Welcome to the Remote Connection to SAP Forum!
Please use the search before you post. More detailed <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement">rules of engagement</a>, can be found on the Wiki.
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The Community Team

Hi
I must be blind but I have not found a place where I can ask a new question. I only can reply to other messages. Could you kindly advice which button I should press that I can ask my own questions and not only post replys.
Br
Seija

Please read "The Forum Rules of Engagement" before posting! HOT NEWS!!

Welcome to the SDN ABAP Development Forums!
Please see the [Forum Rules of Engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement] before posting to avoid potential problems (e.g. your posts are deleted).
The [ABAP Development Forums|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/category.jspa?categoryID=42] have dedicated forums for the following ABAP related areas:
=> General questions about the ABAP language and language implementations. If in doubt, use this forum and do not cross-post.
=> Tables, views, structures, data elements, domains, search helps and types in the underlying relational database.
=> SAPscript and Smartforms form generation, editing and printing and the corresponding programs.
=> Classical Dynpro, Screen Painter and Controls Framework (ALV grid, Table Controls).
=> Enhancing ABAP code through techniques as CMOD, SMOD and the newer BADIs, Switch and Enhancement Frameworks.
=> Code quality, ABAP Unit, Testing, Debugging, efficient code techniques and database reads, SQL trace tools and Runtime Analysis.
=> Data Transfer Techniques, Batch Data Communication, Legacy System Migration Workbench, Application Link Enabling, IDOCs, BAPIs.
=> ABAP Object definition and implementation including encapsulation, interfaces and inheritance in ABAP Objects.
Please...
- Use the correct or most appropriate forum,
- Do not cross-post or multiple-post, and
- Search for information before asking basic questions, again.
Using these categories will enhance performance in the forums and improve the chances that your questions are answered quickly and more accurately!
Other relevant blogs and rule related infos are:
- Michael Schwandt's blog about [Moving to strict rules to improve quality and control|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/10047].
- Michael Schwandt's blog about [Quality: Invitation To Clean Up Your Forum Threads|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/11978].
- Please follow-up on your threads and assign points correctly, as this also contributes to the [UN Food Program|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/7898].
Enjoy the forums and happy posting!!

Start of related discussions about the above rules. Feel free to discuss the rules here...
Dear Jan
Sometime i found very difficuties and time taking process in putting questions in forum bcos i have to elaborate the whole pictorial process in words.
Why Cant we make our this forum more Interactive in way of asking questions by allowing us to attach print preview of what we face in the system.
If you kindly give a glance on this issue and try to implement it for us, forum members like us will be benefited and it will be beneficial for those who are all into in this forum.
Thanks & Regards
Saifur Rahaman

A new "Read the rules of engagement" plague?

Has someone else recognized the the new phenomenon of someone posting a trivial and/or meaningless question and several respondents finding it worthwile to post something like
Welcome to SDN.
Please read the Rules of Engagement....Your thread will be locked ....blablabla....
Sometimes I think there are a lot of Strange Characters out there
anton.

Hi Vijay,
Yes, I know. Also the person might cross-post after someone has (correctly) answered the first thread.
That is why I do not always delete everything from cross-posted interview question series - but a plausibility check is advisable anyway.
When people stop answering those types of questions, then eventually the folks who are too lazy to search will stop asking them.
Goal => Search first, ask specific questions later!
> Recently it happened once.
Sorry about that. Rules are rules, and currently they are rather strict.
I look very much forward to the day when we can relax the strict moderation again
From what I can tell, the "urgnt" and "plz riward" are now a thing of the past (relatively speaking).
Any other tips or tricks for combating the copy&pasters and the interview questions? They seem to be the hardest ones to crack.
Cheers,
Julius

Rules of Engagement

Welcome to the CRM Web Channel Forum!
Please see our [Wiki FAQ|http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/x/JxkB] and use the search before you post. More detailed rules of engagement, can be found on the [Wiki|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement].
Happy posting!
The Community Team

hi
mark ur un answered question as answered
regards
kunal

:O Rules of Engagement --- 2005-02-25

SDN has now introduced a <a href="/people/mark.finnern/blog/2004/08/03/announcing-the-contributor-recognition-program Recognition Program</a>. Which in short text means that for each question you have 10 points, which can be given to the person that answers your question.
Why worry? But at the end of the day, all of us are human, and a small recognition goes a long way. This way, you win in getting a good answer. The person answering gets that warm feeling of having helped and with enough points gets a small reward.
SDN is a community that lives for and from its users. Which means when asking a question, you also assume the responsibility to assign the points. Recommended is that you assign 6 or 10 points once to the answer/person that helped you the most. Assign 2 points to everyone that contributed something. See also <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Contributor+Recognition">FAQ</a>.
brian mckellar (moderator)

Welcome to the SAP forums. Before you post, make yourself first familiar with the rules of engagement.
Disclaimer: This is NOT a support channel. For urgent problems, especially if it concerns your business, SAP Service Channel is the only way to go! If the place where your problem gets logged and tracked, where there are escalation processes available, and where we can involve different groups as appropriate to get a problem solved. Problems can and will only be handled via SAP Service Channel, not in this forum.
Step 1: Finding your answer
Rule number one: Try to find the answer first. There are tons of resources out there, show that you have tried to find the answer. A question that shows that the person is willing to try and help themselves is more likely to be answered than one which simply demands information. Tell us what you have tried to solve the problem yourself - often we can learn from that too!
Search the forums, the articles, the blog posts and the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) in the WIKI ( https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki ) for your topic.
Step 2: Asking a question
Once you have verified that no resources are available solving your problem, ask your question. Do the following:
- Use a good subject line
The subject header is your golden opportunity to attract qualified experts' attention in around 50 characters or fewer. Don't waste it on babble like "Workflow question". As we all have busy jobs, often we just skim through the list headings and read those that interest us. Also, DO NOT reply to an unrelated post to ask a different question. This confuses those reading the thread and may lose people that would be interested in your question. Always start a new topic with a new mail.
Bad subject: Urgent problem with workflow
Good subject: Error after transport: "Inconsistent workflow definition"
Do not use any of the words urgent, quickly, burning, etc in your message. Especially not in the title! This just irritates and does not help you to get to your goal. From our side, we definitely not answer faster, nor better when we see these hot words.
The same for such things as ??? or !!! in appends. In English language one ? or ! is sufficient to terminate a sentence.
- Only one question per posting
For each question that you have, make a separate posting. Don't ask multiple question in one pisting, this is confusing for people and might not get answered, as the subject line is not reflecting all your problems. If a new and unrelated question comes up during a thread, start a new thread.
- Provide enough information.
For starters, please tell us which version and type of system you're working on - e.g. SAP R/3 4.6C or SRM 4.0 (EBP 5.0). If your question is regarding an error, include the message. If it is a request for info, please be specific. Questions such as "How do I administer workflow" are vague, tell us exactly what you want to know - "I'm the administrator, how do I forward work items to another agent?". If it's a big query, rather break it down into separate questions.
- Re-read your query before submitting it.
Put yourself in a reader's position - does the question make sense? Can I understand the problem? Is this enough information to be able to answer the problem?
This is a very valuable technique, because many questions end up answering themselves when you read them carefully. It also leads to better questions. Many list readers like good questions, especially if they are thought-provoking and thus help all of us understand things better. This is one of the main reasons many experienced consultants read the list regularly.
- Why is nobody answering my question?
There may be variety of reasons:
1) never assume that you are entitled to an answer. Remember: this is a community forum; the people on the list have jobs just like you and respond voluntarily. Perhaps nobody knows the answer.
2) Did you let other users enough time? Don't be impatient. If the question is urgent, go to the official support channel.
3) Is your subject misleading, your post in the right forum or your problem description understandable?
Step 3: Give feedback and an update
Lastly, it's also nice to follow up with a brief update if you have found the solution. People may try to help not because they know the answer, but because they are interested in solving the same problem; or people may just encounter the same issue in the future and be searching the archives. It's a good way of giving back to the community, irrespective of whether you are a beginner or an expert.
Step 4: Thank others by giving points
SDN has now introduced a <a href="/people/mark.finnern/blog/2004/08/03/announcing-the-contributor-recognition-program Recognition Program</a>. Which in short text means that for each question you have 10 points, which can be given to the person that answers your question.
Why worry? But at the end of the day, all of us are human, and a small recognition goes a long way. This way, you win in getting a good answer. The person answering gets that warm feeling of having helped and with enough points gets a small reward.
SDN is a community that lives for and from its users. Which means when asking a question, you also assume the responsibility to assign the points. Recommended is that you assign 6 or 10 points once to the answer/person that helped you the most. Assign 2 points to everyone that contributed something. See also <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Contributor+Recognition">FAQ</a>.
SDN is place where developers meet other developers. One takes the time to see the problems other developers are facing, the time to read possible solutions (to learn), and maybe one day the time to answer some questions.
Text in this message was borrowed from
- <a href="https://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.sdn.businesscard.sdnbusinesscard?u=s1ett4b5nss%3d">brian McKellar</a> and the BSP forum
<a href="/people/mike.pokraka/blog/2005/07/17/sap-business-workflow-faq Workflow User Group FAQ</a> by [url=https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.sdn.businesscard.sdnbusinesscard?u=xbzpqlwvluy%3d]Mike Pokraka[/url]

Have the rules of engagement gone missing?

I clicked through to the [rules of engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement] just now to verify whether or not I should report a post for abuse, and was surprised to see that this is now a blank page. Is this a way of telling us that the rules have been relaxed?
Ethan

The Return of : [Rules of Engagements|http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement]
Working fine
Edited by: Pushkar Patil on Oct 8, 2010 2:21 PM

How can i get list of all monitors and rules that assigned to a node ?

Hello,
We r using the scom 2012 sp1
i need to get list of monitors and rules that have assigned to nodes.
for example :
nodename - type - name
node1 - monitor - montiorname1
node1 - monitor - monitorname2
node1 - rule - rule1
node1 - rule - rule2
can i get this list by using sql or powershell script ?
thanks

Hi,
Please refer to the link below:
How to View All Rules and Monitors Running on an Agent-Managed Computer
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh212748.aspx
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Import dimension and member via maxl, how to create data file and rule file

Hi
I have a task to import dimension and member into Essbase, for project requirement, I have to use text file or spreadsheet file.
I wonder which format can be imported into Essbase?
I tried to create them, failed.
Do you have any samples to help me? dimension file and rule file...
I search a lot in http://gerardnico.com/wiki/epm/essbase/dimension_build#about , but there are no samples.
Thanks in advance...
Best regards,
Samantha

import database Sample.Basic data from data_file 'C:\TEMP\GENREF.txt' using rules_file 'C:\TEMP\GENREF.rul' on error append to 'C:\TEMP\logs\dimbuild.log';Here issue is not with rulefile but in reading the rule file.
I hope rule file is in the database directory (By default it will get saved there only)
Try with the below command
import database Sample.Basic data from data_file 'C:\TEMP\GENREF.txt' using server rules_file 'GENREF' on error append to 'C:\TEMP\logs\dimbuild.log';
Rule file also had one issue
Market, Product, Measures, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, DecHere I am seeing only four dimensions from the Sample.Basic database
Scenario is missing. So define Actual (Scenario Dimension member) in the rule file header definition.
All dimensions must be identified to parse one data file with rule file.
PS: Naming (GENREF) is also irrelevant if you are loading data. It is apt for dim load.

Help on Time type 0903, Identifying Schema and Rule configuration?

Can you please help me with the following:
1. What is time type 0903?
2. How to identify schema and rule configuration?
3. How do I identify the number of employees affected in case I have to make a configuration change?
Thanks

Hello,
1) Time type is identified according to what purpose it is used. Check table T555A for details on why it is used in your configuration.
2) There is no configuration in schema and rule. Schema and rules has the programs in them.
3)What configuration changes you are planning to do? Depending on this we can then try to identify who is affected.
Hope this answers your questions.
Let me know if you need more info on how to configure time management and write schema and rules.

Please read - Rules of Engagement

Before posting your questions please read [Rules of Engagement|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/rulesofEngagement]

These are great rules. Glad they were brought to my attention.
A highly recommended quick read for all users:
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Rules%20of%20Engagement

Implementing roles and rules based authorisation with Azure AD

Hi all,
I would greatly appreciate some input on feasibility and patterns I should look at for a complex technical requirement that I am currently tasked with designing.
We have a system that comprises a web and mobile app. In the past we have implemented session based authentication through ADAM and authorisation through custom business rules contained within the applications. The authentication mechanism is in the process
of being migrated to Azure AD and authorisation is planned to be moved to Azure AD for our next release.
Existing authorisation within our web application is already complex. We have users that belong to different groups with a range of permissions such as read, write or admin. Additionally each user is granted access to N customers and also N locations within
each customer. We have a requirement that any number of combinations of customers and locations be supported. Users also need to have different permissions for each entity, i.e. read access to customer 1 location 2, write access to customer 4 and administer
customer 7. Currently these privileges are maintained within a relational database and enforced as part of each PageLoad(). Essentially this is a combination of roles and rules based authorisation.
We are struggling to represent this complex matrix structure within Azure AD and efficiently implement the authorisation decision in Azure AD. The driver for this technical requirement is to provide re-usability of the authorisation component to other (as
yet unidentified) applications.
Currently the best option we have come up with is implementing custom attributes for each class of permissions and storing within this 2048 bit field a bitmask that represents whether this permission is granted for a given location (which has a many to one
relationship with customer).
Any help or comment would be gratefully received,
Phil

Hi
When "Advance routing" is used for Task assignment; the task service asserts the folllowing fact types : Task, PreviousOutcome and TaskAction to the rules engine. These facts gives all the reqd info about the task (like outcome of the participant, task stage .. etc)
Now in the defined ruleset; we can have rules as per our requirement that can extract info from the asserted fact types and assign task to the required/next participant.
Also note that we write the advance rules for exception cases only.
For example; let's say all participants have 2 possible Outcomes [COMPLETE, RECHECK]. We have defined the ideal task routing flow as :
Participant A -> Participant B -> Participant C. This is the flow when all participant selects "COMPLETE"
Now suppose B selects outcome as "RECHECK" then the task shld move back to A. So for this case only we need to write a advance rule.
Pls refer to the code sample at : http://download.oracle.com/technology/sample_code/hwf/workflow-106-IterativeDesign.zip
Also dev guide : refer to section 28.3.7.2 http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E14571_01/integration.1111/e10224/bp_hwfmodel.htm#BABBFEJJ
Thanks
Edited by: Kania on May 19, 2010 2:41 AM

Roles and Rules for workflow.

Hi,
I have some basic conpectual problem about roles and rules.
What is the diffrenece between roles and rules in sap business workflow ? What is the Tcode for Role creation/Change/Display and Rule creation/Change/Display ?
I am using a standard workflow for PR Release "WS20000077".
I have done all the setting except this agent assignment using roles or rules. The default rules used in the task "TS20000159" is "20000026". The Binding from workflow to rules container is also defined by the workflow itself.
This rules is defined using a function module.When I am putting a breakpoint in this function module and tring to execute my workflow it is not going to the given breakpoint but the workflow is running successfully as shown in the event trace "SWE2".
What could be the problem..Pls suggest?

Hi Tanuja,
Go through this link for [Rule Documentation|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/bb/bdc296575911d189240000e8323d3a/frameset.htm]
And
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/95/ed94ee764c11d3b535006094b9c9b4/frameset.htm
Go through this link for [Roles in Workflow|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/f4/4a5536ad3d2a17e10000009b38f839/frameset.htm]
Hope this would help you.
Good luck
Narin

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