What do these Compound Clip icons represent?

Here are four compound clips, but they have two different icons:
What does this timeline-looking icon represent:
And what does this filmstrip-looking one represent:
And why would they be different?
I do notice one difference in how they act. To open the timeline-looking one in the timeline I just double-click it. To open the filmstrip-looking one in the timeline I have to right click and use the menu item "Open in Timeline":

Thanks Tom. I know that my notes don't make it so . I'm just trying to figure out what I've done, if it is dangerous, and how I get out of it. I appreciate your insight. Now that I know I have something unusual, I can at least stop looking for it in the manual.
I guess this is an artifact of trying to use Compound Clips as editing timelines. Since this project is a custom vertical resolution (720x1280), I can't use a standard timeline. So far, using Compound Clips for editing this piece has worked, but things apparently get a little screwy.

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The "dog's paw black print" icons of which I complain were never knowingly acccepted by me and just appeared the same as other icons - but all attempts to delete/block them have failed. They lead to conference type connections. They are not currently causing any problem that I'm aware of but I'd rather not have them on my listings - there are two of them. The subject matter heading is a little misleading. Peter
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Hello dear Village kid. Thankyou for trying to assist. It is appreciated. I am using a desktop "Aspire".
The "dog's paw black print" icons of which I complain were never knowingly acccepted by me and just appeared the same as other icons - but all attempts to delete/block them have failed. They lead to conference type connections. They are not currently causing any problem that I'm aware of but I'd rather not have them on my listings - there are two of them. The subject matter heading is a little misleading. Peter
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