What is 57F4 in Subcobtracting challan..?

Hi all
Can anybody explain me about 57F4 challan for subcontarcting .
How excise part will be used in subcontarcting process..
In subcontracting also , excise duty capture and posting is there..?
Any body explain me .
Thanks
sap-mm

Hi
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/95/3ca425110511d4b5ae006094b9ec21/frameset.htm
Hi the Subcontracting process of 57F$4 is followed in in idia when ever you r sending the material for subcontracting from your factory. As per the Excise department it should accompany a challan saying that it not for sale for work and you to declare the value of the gods you r sending out.
This challan has a valid of 180days
once u recve the material and challan you have to close this challan if not u have to pay a penalty to the department.

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I am confident about printing settings.
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Waiting for reply,
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Hi Friend,
What is this transaction?
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Can yu help further?
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Can u

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Explain domestic procurement at manufacturing unit?
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How does fortnightly utilization determine the accounts to be posted?
What is transaction type u2018UTLZu2019 used for?
What will be the accounting entry during GR of raw material, Excise invoice posting and subsequent LIV of material?
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I don't get you....
first i wish tell what i did
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1. Define your customer materials (both component and finished product) as non valuated material, because these materials not effecting the our inventory.
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http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1600/V5600/BBLibrary/HTML/150_EN_IN.htm
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