What is a B2B scenario definition from XI perspective ?

Hi All,
what is a b2b scenario in xi ? suppose, data flows from wholesale dealer database to companies r/3 system, will it be a b2b scenario ?

Hi,
Here goes a simple explanation :
A2A is application to application. When two applications in a company communicates with each other we call it an A2A scenario and if its across Companies we call it B2B or buisness to buisness.
B2B scenarios come in to picture when communication is between two Organizations or parties.
Let's say, there are 2 companies, and they have a different systems, which need to be integrated. For Ex: your client is using SAP R/3 and their customer is having some other technology. they want to integrate each Appications. this is B2B.
"B2B" is contemporary shorthand for a longtime sales practice called business-to-business. B2B transactions primarily target companies and other wholesale buyers, while transactions targeting individuals are called B2C, or business-to-customer. Many organizations have both B2B and B2C components, but it's not unusual for a company to specialize in B2B services or sales. In fact, the vast majority of products and services sold are considered to be B2B in nature
If you do the Intergration for the BP out side the Customer LAND SCAPE then it is called a B2B
The scenarion you are talking about falls under B2B , if the wholesale dealer database and r/3 system doesnot fall under same company (enterprise).
Hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Divya

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Date:   13.10.2011 14:12
Subject:        Importing element definition from
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