What is best stockage for time machine server

H i hello
I want make a time machine server for backup all macs in my network
I have mountain lion server, and i want know what is the best solution for stockage for time Machine
Nas ? San ?
Can i use NTFS with time machine ? CIFS ? or just AFP ?
Thanks you for your help

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Just bought a 3TB Time Capsule for a small office. Will have 4 users with MacBooks. What would ne the best setup for time machine individual backups and internet sharing in a secure way?

Just bought a 3TB Time Capsule for a small office. Will have 4 users with MacBooks. What would ne the best setup for time machine individual backups and internet sharing in a secure way?

Set up each Mac for Time Machine backups in the normal way. Time Machine will keep each backup separate on the Time Capsule, so users will only be able to see the backups of their own Mac.
Yes....there are convoluted workarounds that might allow one user to see the backups of another.....IF...they know the administrator password of the "other" Mac.
As far as Internet sharing, all users will have access to the Internet if they have a wired or wireless connection. If a Mac connects using wireless, it is possible to limit the time that they are allowed to connect to the network.
For example, you might limit the ability to connect to the wireless from say each Weekday from 8 AM to 6 PM.
With a wired Ethernet connection, you cannot limit access times to the Internet.

Best approach for Time Machine / Entourage / FileVault / sparse bundle disk

I am looking to set up Time Machine belatedly on my G5 to provide hassle-free backup for me and my family. I use Entourage. I also want to provide a small amount of encrypted storage. I’ve scoured the obvious places which have plenty of ideas, but nothing which pulls it all together.
My thoughts so far have been:
1. Time Machine doesn’t work well with Entourage as Entourage uses a monolithic single file (which in my case is several GB big) – backing this up every hour will bring my machine to its knees, fill up the backup disk and will possibly give a corrupt backup as the file could be accessed by Entourage or the MS daemon process during the backup.
2. I thought of turning FileVault on which would automatically contain the Entourage file. This would mean:
a) the sparse bundle format (8 MB bands) of FileVault would limit the volume of changed Entourage data which would be backed up each time by Time Machine and
b) the backup would only occur during logout (which is fine with me) when Entourage and the MS daemon are not running so that the backup won’t be corrupt.
3. However I am not hearing good things about the reliability of FileVault (comments?) and don’t want all the data in my Home folders lost – I don’t need that much encryption anyway.
4. So I thought about setting up a couple of encrypted disk images made of sparse bundles – one for the Entourage data (symbolically linked to the right place for Entourage to pick the folder up) and the other for the other small number of files I need encrypted. This could be auto-mounted at login.
5. However I think that using disk images rather than FileVault loses the automatic backup by Time Machine at logout. Maybe there is a way to get Time Machine to automatically backup these disk images during logout.
6. Perhaps there is another way to get the disk images backed up at logout other than using Time Machine.
So my questions are:
A. What is the best overall approach to providing a low-maintenance reliable backup which deals appropriately with Entourage and provides a small amount of encrypted space?
B. Can Time Machine be made to backup disk images other than FileVault disk images at logout? (for example is there a particular location / filename format for FileVault images which I could emulate with the other disk images to fool Time Machine into backing them up?)
C. When Time Machine runs at logout, have MS Entourage and the daemon process already been shut down and the disks unmounted, to prevent corruption?
D. Is there another way of backing up the sparse image disks at logout?
C. Is this all going to get magically fixed in Snow Leopard?
D. Will MS come up with a sensible storage format for Entourage?
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

I don't know if there is a complete solution, but here are some things you could consider.
1. TM does not run automatically at logout unless FileVault is enabled.
2. You can change the backup period using third-party utilities like TimeMachineEditor - VersionTracker or MacUpdate.
3. You can exclude the Microsoft User Data folder from the TM backup and back it up separately using third-party backup software.
4. You can use third-party backup software instead of TM, such as:
1. Retrospect Desktop (Commercial - not yet universal binary)
2. Synchronize! Pro X (Commercial)
3. Synk (Backup, Standard, or Pro)
4. Deja Vu (Shareware)
5. Carbon Copy Cloner (Donationware)
6. SuperDuper! (Commercial)
7. Intego Personal Backup (Commercial)
8. Data Backup (Commercial)
9. SilverKeeper 2.0 (Freeware)
10. Tri-Backup (Commercial)
11. Apple Backup (requires a .Mac account with Apple both to get the software and to use it.)
Apple's Backup is a full backup tool capable of backing up across multiple media such as CD/DVD. However, it cannot create bootable backups. It is primarily an "archiving" utility.
Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on backup and restore. Also read How to Back Up and Restore Your Files.
Third-party backup utilities can run backups on schedules you set up. Thus, you can schedule your backups to occur at a time when you do not use the machine such as early in the AM for example.

Best drive for time machine backup

I just upgraded my Macbook Pro and the drive in the new one is 500Gb. That is 380GB larger than my previous drive. What external drive would you recommend for use on my network. I will be plugging it into my Airport Extreme and will be used solely for backup. I currently have a 160GB WD MyBook.

Hi theycallmefreddy,
How much of the 500GB HD do you intend to fill? My understanding of how to best maximize the backup efficiency of Time Machine is you want to use a HD that is at least the same capacity as your internal and preferably double the capacity. The larger the HD the more incremental backups it'll store before the drive is filled and "feathering" occurs.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15137.html

Need advice on best approach for Time Machine on Macbook

I have several external disks attached to my iMac, one of which is the Time Machine disk for that computer. I just got a Macbook for my wife and I am trying to figure out the best way to use Time Machine with it. I am thinking the easiest would be to add another external hard disk to my iMac, make it sharable and have the Macbook Time Machine backup over the wireless network to that disk. That way it can back up no matter where it is in the house.
But I am new enough to the Mac that I don't know if that is 1) possible 2) the easiest. I got the sense that I could buy an Airport and attach a hard disk to that but it seemed like a kind of expensive solution.
Any comments/ideas? I am trying to do this as simply as possible without it costing a bunch.

bobmcgraw
Yes, in theory. This is exactly how i have been using time machine... however I have just come up against a major issue with this.
I was backing up my Macbook Air, by using a drive attached to my iMac, and the iMac was sharing the drive. I could happily connect, and configure time machine on the Macbook to use the drive, and away it went.....
Looking at the drive itself, I had a folder for my imac backups... and for the Macbook there was a 'sparsebundle' image.
All seemed well, and Time Machine functioned as expected on the Macbook Air.
The problem occurred when I decided to replace my Macbook Air with a new macbook. Once I had set up the new machine, I thought I could use the time machine backup to restore the new macbook with the old macbook Air's details (in much the same way as I would assume that I could restore back to a new unit if the old machine had failed).
Even with the time machine volume mounted on the new Macbook, the 'sparsebundle' Macbook air was simply not recognised as a backed up machine. Whenever I tried to use the migration assistant to restore back my data, the ONLY time machine backup that it would find on my Time Machine drive was the iMac's one... not the Macbook Air's.
So.... in short... If you chose this option, It is fine for backing up, and restoring as far as it goes... but beware if you ever need to restore the machine in its entirety using migration assistant or the like - as it doesn't seem to work.
Now I have discovered this, I really need to re-think my setup - perhaps share the volume by plugging it into my Airport Extreme Base Station.
The unfortunate situation is that the current backup is absolutely useless in its present form, as one of the things I need to protect myself against is machine failure,and I need to be able to restore a new machine to look like the old one. In this situation I was able to connect BOTH old and new macbooks to the network, and use migration assistant to migrate from one to the other. All was well there, but this would not have been an option if I did not have access to both machines.

What is the equation for Time Machine required space?

Once again Time Machine says it has run out of room to do my backup. I guess I just don't understand the equation for figuring this out.
These are my specs:
Disks being backed up - 2 drives
          Internal Drive - 640gb, 482gb in use
          External Drive - 500gb, 105gb in use
     587gb total data in use
Time Machine disk - 1TB, 715gb in use, 284gb available, asking for 303gb
TM wants space that is more than half of my total data in use. I have one (old) 2gb file, all others are 99mb and smaller, mostly much smaller.
Why isn't TM removing older backup files to make room for the latest? Why does it think it needs a block of 303gb when the new files it needs to back up are all in the sub 10mb range?
On the surface it seems like TM is using disk sizes to do it's caluclations instead of file size.
What is the equation it uses to figure this out? I am puzzled...

jlmcvay wrote:
Starting pre-backup thinning: 286.19 GB requested (including padding), 265.05 GB available
That's your main problem; wanting to back up about 238 GB (plus 20%). Curiously, that's a bit less than the previous messages.
See what's shown for Estimated size of full backup under the exclusions box in Time Machine Preferences > Options. According to the figures in your first post, it should be about 587 GB. If it's considerably larger, then there are two possibilities:
Something else is connected, and Time Machine is trying to back it up.
There's a directory problem on one of the disks being backed-up, so Time Machine thinks it's much larger. If so, try verifying your internal HD, and repairing the external, per #A4 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting.
But if the estimate is reasonably close, then something very large has changed. See #D4 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting for some of the common culprits. Unfortunately, there's no way to tell in advance what it is; you can only see that after a backup completes.
If nothing there helps, try excluding the external HD and trying again (per #10 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions) -- that should tell us whether the problem is on the internal or the external. Then we can try to narrow it down.
Seems like there is a problem with the Event store UUIDs for my internal drive.
Not a major one. That message means that Time Machine isn't sure that the previous backup was completed normally (which it obviously didn't). When that happens, Time Machine can't use the Event store, but has to do a "deep traversal" to compare everything on the drive to the backups to figure out what's changed and needs to be backed-up. That takes a while, of course, and means your backup will take considerably longer than usual.
I commonly have iPhoto open all the time. If TM cannot back up iPhoto while it open that would explain why it needs to backup a lot of data.
That's a possible explanation, but 238 GB is a lot of photos. How large is your entire iPhoto Library?
Time Machine can sometimes back the iPhoto Library up when iPhoto is open -- it seems to depend on just what you've been doing. So it's fairly unusual for it to be missed for very long. (It ought to send a message after a certain time, but it doesn't.)
If excluding the external HD doesn't turn up a clue, try excluding your Pictures folder.

What size ext. hd for time machine

I'll be upgrading to Leopard in the next two weeks, and I was wondering what size external hd i should be looking at. I'm looking at the Western Digital My Book Premium Edition, which I found the 500gb version for $150 and the 750Gb version for $230. Is it worth the extra $80 for 250GB more hd space? How much space do I need to back up my 250GB drive (with 140GB used)??? Does Time Machine compress files at all??? Thanks for your response.

I have a similar situation. I have a 500gb iMac with 350gb used. I have a 500gb ext. hd with 465gb available. Time Machine (horrible so far in my opinion) claims I don't have enough room to run it. The math I learned still proves that 465 is greater than 350.
Not only that but installing Leopard was excruciating. If you have yet to install it, make sure you run the installer as archive then install and not upgrade. Upgrade will give you blue screen of death. Why did Apple, my favorite computer company, release an os with features that create so many windows like issues. So far I am nothing even close to excited, nor even satisfied with this $140 upgrade.

What size backup drive for time machine on 500gb MBP?

I'm sure this is a really novice question, but I couldn't find the answer on the forum.
I've just got a MBP with a 500gb HDD. I won't be buying a Time Capsule, but I'd like to set up Time Machine to backup to an external USB HDD. What is the optimum size for this?
I see that time machine keeps deleted files, I'm not sure if it uses compression, and I'm not sure what happens when I run out of space... does it reduce the number of duplicates that it keeps, or will I run into a problem?
Really, what I'm trying to find out is: I have an old 500gb HDD that isn't being used for much. Is this sufficient to back up a 500gb HDD (assuming that, at some point, I'm going to be hovering around maximum capacity on the MBP)?
Thankyou!

Hi and welcome to Discussions,
our local Time Machine 'Guru' Pondini has made a very thorough FAQ on it to be found here http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1964018
Quoted from it (section 1):
"A general "rule of thumb" is, TM needs 2 to 3 times as much space as the data it's backing-up (not necessarily the entire size of your internal HD).
But this varies greatly, depending on how you use your Mac. If you frequently add/update lots of large files, then even 3 times may not be enough. If you're a light user, 1.5 times might do. Unfortunately, it's rather hard to predict, so if in doubt, get a bigger one!
Also, there are some OSX features and 3rd-party applications that take up large amounts of backup space, for various reasons. See question #9 for details.
This is a trade-off between space and how long TM can keep its backups, since TM will, by design, eventually use all the space available. But it won't just quit backing-up when it runs out: it starts deleting the oldest backups so it can keep making new ones. Thus, the more space it has, the longer it can keep your backups."
Regards
Stefan

What's the trigger for Time Machine to back up a FileVault folder?

Hi,
I have been enjoying the new MacBook pro and the useful FileVault for weeks now. I read quite some discontent with FileVault, which indeed could be better, but still it provides useful and free encryption.
With regards to backup on Time Machine, the Home Folder back up supposedly only happen when you log out of a FileVault encrypted account. Meanwhile, I don't always get how it starts and the rules for the Home folder to be backedup.
I make daily changes on my Home folder and the backup only starts once every other week, maybe randomly? Only few times i see the backup progress bar at shutdown and it seems to happen only after a certain amount of additional data has been added.
Has anyone more insight in how the backup (i.e. at log out, only way to backup on TM with FileVault) is triggered? Is there a way to make it a mandatory operation at log out, when my backup drive is available? As I use a WiFi HD (through airport), is it related that backup only occur once in a while and not at each logout
thanks for any tip
Y.

With FileVault enabled Time Machine only backs up when you log out or shut down, unfortunately And when it does it copies the entire encrypted .sparseimage every time. There is no incremental backup when FileVault is enabled.
Regards,
Michael

First Imac in the post. What size hard disk for Time Machine

I have a 500GB hard disk in my new imac (Which I dont have yet)
What size drive should I get to backup my system.

Peggy's answer is essentially correct. OTOH, if after moving into your new computer you are using only 40GB of that huge drive, it would silly to get a 1GB drive, at least until you've found a way to fill up more of the drive....and you will eventually. So to amend Peggy's answer, look at how much drive space you are currently using. If you own a digital camera figure you could easily fill 1GB a year per child. Music and/or Video? Estimate how much you've added in the last year and use that as a rough bench mark. Add another 5GB and add all that together to see how much of your drive you'll have filled by this time next year. Use that to gauge how big your external TM drive should be, based on the 2 to 3 times bigger figure.

What is best modem for time capsule with cable internet?

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Best choice for a proxy server on NT?

Hi, I'm wondering what the best choice for a proxy server is on NT?
          Currently I'm running a 2 WL server cluster, but this will grow rapidly. If
          all of the pages that I will be handling will be .jsp (with the exception of
          1 or 2 servlets), which is the best configuration (performance wise) to go
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          > Hi, I'm wondering what the best choice for a proxy server is on NT?
          >
          > Currently I'm running a 2 WL server cluster, but this will grow rapidly.
          If
          > all of the pages that I will be handling will be .jsp (with the exception
          of
          > 1 or 2 servlets), which is the best configuration (performance wise) to go
          > with?
          >
          > Should I use a Weblogic Servlet, NSAPI, or ISAPI to do the proxiing. My
          > guess was that IIS would perform the best on an NT machine and that it
          would
          > not be as large as a memory hog as Weblogic would be to simply run as a
          > proxy. Is there a significant amount of latency produced by the ISAPI
          > bridge?
          >
          > Any suggestions?
          >
          > Thanks,
          > Chris
          >
          >

On a 500G MBP running Lion what's the best size to partition a 2T WD external hard drive to for Time Machine? Thankse

Just picked up a 2T WD external HD for my new MBPro with 500 G drive. Looking to use part of the external drive for Time MAchine. Not sur if I should designate 1T of it or 750G. I'm running Lion. What's the best way to format the external drive. Disk Utility?
Thanks,
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Ask in Lion: TimeMachine / MacBook Pro even - this is workstation territory
I would not use the same drive for data and for backups.
If I had to, I'd make a partition large enough to boot your Mac from though, whether 50-500GB to clone your system.
You should still be able to use Lion's Recovery boot mode.
I don't think there really is much choice in what to format with, unless you want to spend over $100.

What is the best external hard drive for macbook pro I think I want firewire for storage and usb for time machine

I have a macbk pro. I think a usb external drive would be fine for time machine but I'd like a fire wire external drive to store files.
Any recommendations on brand? The last recommendations were dated 2006/7
I have been waiting for a 1TB g-drive. Apparently they are special order. I did not think I needed anything larger than 1 TB to backup the 500GB internal drive.
I thought I'd get something bigger for storage. From what I have read I think its best not to partition the drive for backup and storage.
Also I'd like to have a bootable copy of my internal hard drive is that possible?

Don't know about the Best... But I have been using these without any issues...
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What is the best online storage service for time machine

what is the best online storage service for time machine?

ds store wrote:
There isn't any, the reason is TimeMachine is a backup of your entire boot drive, can be many gigabytes in size which Internet Service Providers only provide a fraction of upload speed compared to download speed so it makes online backups rather impractical for most.
You can share some files via a service like DropBox between remote computers, but to backup your whole system it's better to have it stored locally.
After all how can you restore your hard drive if OS X isn't running to get online?
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3045
Why is local storage better than offsite? I had a house that burned down and can tell you from experience that local backup was totally useless.

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