What is Business System

Hi All,
Can u give me answers to this questions.
on XI what are these?
Netweaver
q1. what is SLD ? not description the work of SLD?
q2. what do u mean by creating Technical Systems and assigning it to Business System ? why we do that?
q3. one message is there in EDI Format and it has to be sent to 6 different systems. what is the method u prefer to transfer the message.
q4. What is done internally in File adapter ? what will happen?
q5. What is Adapter
regards,
Kareem.
[email protected]

1.SLD (sYSTEM Landscape Directory) is a central repository of information about systems and softwares in the data center.
-so talking about the working of an SLD, here if any information is required for the integration server regarding the systems(logical or physical) and the softwares(installed products) it refers to the SLD.
-to tell you about the other features it has....it captures the dmensions of the system landscape like solution dimesion,transport dimension and technical dimension.
-putting it in short XI IS A CLIENT OF SLD
2.technical system is correlates the software to the physical host on which it is installed.
-they are actually the basis for defining the business systems.
-we assign a technical system to a busines system to help the SLD make the appropriate assosiation.
-the software products used by the business system are got from the technical system definition.
-to note 1 technical system can have more than one business system asssigned to it....and as told the SLD make the appropriate assosiation between them.
3.i would ask u to use graphical message mapping to send one message to 6 diff systems....i presume that EDI MESSAGE FORMATS are business documents like tax returns and invoices(am i right )
-incase you want to send it to 6 systems based on some condition you can check for that also in the receiver determination.
5.to put it in short adapter is used to convert any type of file format into xml format.this is the basic need of an adapter.
4.we can have either a sender or receiver file adapter........but to give you an idea in general...
-The file adapter enables you to exchange data with the Integration Server or by means a FTP server.
The file contents can be sent to the Integration Server unaltered. If the data contains Comma Separated Values (CSV), it can first be converted into a simple XML message. This XML message is then forwarded to the Integration Server.
-Conversely, file content coming from the Integration Server can be put unaltered into a file or converted from XML format.

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2) Also SLD entry is required.
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Hi Gurus,
What is Logical System? n What is Business System?
Wt is the Difference betweent these two?Can you explain me in detial.
thanks in advacne.

Hi Kumar
Logical System
System in which applications sharing a common data basis run. In SAP terms, a logical system is a client in a database. Messages are exchanged between logical systems.
Systems of the Central User Administration (CUA) are referred to using logical system IDs. In the SAP sense, a logical system is a client. Therefore you must first set up logical system names that you then assign to the clients in the SAP systems.
It is possible that the logical system name already exists because you have already included the system in an ALE distribution. You can then ignore the procedures Define/Set Up Logical System and Assign Logical System to a Client.
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Configuring an SAP Business System
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/87/7277e8fba34421a45d97a41ec27381/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/c8/5aa2a0deb91548a1842f8485dee4a2/frameset.htm
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Assigning a Logical System to a Client
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Business System/Business Service

Hi All,
Can anyone let me know what are Business System and Business Service.
Regards,
SP

Hi
Business Service
1) You use a Business Service, when you do not have the System details of the the partner system to which you want to communicate. i.e. you have not configured the partner system in SLD.
2) Business Service is an Absract Unit with Sender and Receiver Interfaces,In this case you need to explicitly add the message interfaces while doing configuration in ID.
3) It is generally used for NON-SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4) This is not defined as part of SLD and whose technical parameters are not completely known.
5)Business service is used when the message is not addressed to a business system. It is used mostly in B2B scenarios.
Business systems:
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within PI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
Web AS ABAP:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of PI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
Web AS Java:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
Standalone:
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
Third-party:
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
Technical systems:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
Web AS ABAP:
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What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?

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Please tell me what is the difference between Business System and Business Service...? In real time at what situation we will use Business System and in what situations we will use Business Service..? Please help me
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HI,
Business system:
If you want to address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system (service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software component versions of the business system.
You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
Business Service:
If you want to address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
You usually use business services when configuring cross-company processes. In this case, you only make your interfaces known to the business partners involved and either do not make any details about your own system landscape available, or only specific details.
For example, you can define RosettaNet Partner Interface Processes (PIPs) as business services.
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Whats the actual difference between Business system and Business service

whats the actual difference between Business system and Business service

Business System
1) Business system is a logical system, and there is an importance on physical existence of the system.
2) Also SLD entry is required.
3)It is generally used for SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4)This is defined as part of the SLD and is a physical system whose parameters are well defined.
5(Business systems refers to the physical systems, for instance the R/3 system. You define the business systems in the SLD
Business Service
1) You use a Business Service, when you do not have the System details of the the partner system to which you want to communicate. i.e. you have not configured the partner system in SLD.
2) Business Service is an Absract Unit with Sender and Receiver Interfaces,In this case you need to explicitly add the message interfaces while doing configuration in ID.
3) It is generally used for NON-SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4) This is not defined as part of SLD and whose technical parameters are not completely known.
5)Business service is used when the message is not addressed to a business system. It is used mostly in B2B scenarios.
Also go through these links and threads...
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/c7/301640033ae569e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/14/80243b4a66ae0ce10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
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System copy of a business system : what to do?

Hello everyone.
We have copied a DEV system from a Win2003 32 bits server to a new Win2003 64 bits server.
This DEV system R3 4.7 was also upgraded to ECC 6.0
Now, this system (the old one) was connected to a XI Dev server as a Business System.
The old DEV and the new DEV are active on different server (hardware) and share the same SID.
What options do I have to connect the new DEV to the XI Dev server?
I was thinking about this : reconfigure the technical system DEV defined in the XI's SLD to point to the new server.
That's all ...
Is it sufficient?
Is there a way to define the 2 DEV systems in parallel to connect at the same time to the XI Dev?
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Hi,
You have to Register the New Business system in SLD
And also you have to replace the old BS with the New BS in ID where ever it points
Thats all
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What does the table save business system informations?

Hi...
When we create or change the business system in SLD,
What table does the information about business system save in the database?
Thank you..

Hi,
There is no direct way but u can get it:
Go to SXMB_MONI. when u run the scenario it has all the information about Sender,receiver systen and interface information,
But this information is message specific.
U can get all the details from.
SXMB_GET_MESSAGE_LIST through which you can get the messages in SXMB_MONI.
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chirag
Edited by: Chirag Gohil on Apr 10, 2008 11:49 AM

Logical system and business system

Hi experts, please help me with the below questions---
1) What is the diff between logical system and business system?
2)what is the difference between logical system(defined in R/3) and business system (defined in SLD) in idoc to file scenario.
3) Is it require to give the logical system name of the xi server(Which we define in idx1 port) to the 3rd party system(Application system at the FTP side) to carry out file to idoc scerario?

Hi,
Business System :
1. Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within XI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems. Depending on the associated technical system.
2. Business Systems should be mandatory used when dealing with Idoc's and Proxies .
Business Service:
1. Business Service requires manual adding on Inbound and Outbound Interfaces, Business Systems do not.
2. Business Services are maintained across environments and so, their names cannot be changed. Business Systems names can be changed across environments by providing SLD level transport targets.
3.In the Business Services we cannot maintain the Group and Targets in SLD. For Ease in transporting your ID/Configuration objects Groups and Targets are used in SLD for Business Systems.
4.Business Service has no SLD Entries and No Assigned Products and SWCV's
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Sangeetha

Business Systems and Business Service - does any difference

Hi Experts,
Could any one please guide me what is the difference between
Business Systems
and
Business Service.
Which situations we use Business Systems / Business Service.
Does it have any performance issues?
Why we are not configuring Business service in SLD?
Cheers Experts!!
Sunil

Hi Sunil,
Business System: Address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system
(service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software
component versions of the business system. The business system services are used when
configuring internal company processes.
Business Systems are Logical Senders or Receivers that exchange messages by using the Integration
Server and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The Business Systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The Business Systems of business partners are therefore not entered in the System Landscape
Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use communication components in
the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a communication component in the
Integration Directory more precisely (business system component).
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies
involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces. The business services are used when
configuring cross-company processes.
In the PCK, the Service is of type Business Service. It represents an abstract, addressable unit.
Business services are used in cross-company processes, for example, if the parties involved have only
published their interfaces and not their system landscape, or it is only partly known.
Using a Business Service,we can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved
and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
It is useful to use Business Services when configuring cross-company processes. Usually, the
interface descriptions of the business partners involved are made publicly available.
Also,There is already lot of thread regarding the same discussion, please see it below.
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Logical system name in business system (SLD)

Hi,
While creating business system in SLD what should give for the logical system name?
Should the logical system name exists in ABAP stack or the new one?
Thanks.

Hi,
If you are creating the BS for SAP R/3 in SLD means we have to give the LS name which we had in SAP R/3( goto SALE and take the LS from there)
Goto Assign LS-----take the client which you are using for SAP R/3 and take the LS name assigned to that Client
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Seshagiri

Technical systems and Business systems in SAP XI

can any one tell me ,breifly explain the diff b/w <b>Technical Systems</b> & Business Systems?
steps to create Techincal system and Business systems?
and also Steps for creating Software Components? For Technical System we can create more than one Business systems ,what it means?can any one explain?

Hi
First I let u know with analogy and actual definition as below
Any module of SAP like MM, SRM, FICO ets makes a logical system in combination according to business requirements is a business system which is actualy hosted on an application server like ABAP AS or Java AS which is basically a technical system.
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in system landscape (a CRM server, for example). Most systems (Web AS ABAP and Web AS Java systems) automatically report information to the SLD about the elements that they contain by using the SLD data supplier programs. You need to manually register the following types of system only:
Standalone Java systems
Third-party systems
Business systems are logical senders or receivers that exchange messages by using SAP XI and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The business systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The business systems of business partners are not entered in the System Landscape Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use services in the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a service in the Integration Directory more precisely (business system service).
U can also refer Blog's
Re: Difference betweeen Technical systems and Business systems
For creation of software component see link
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3172d290-0201-0010-2b80-c59c8292dcc9
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Hello,
i am on PI 7.1 and have to configure a SRM scenario. In step "assign communication component" (business system) in the model configurator all business systems are missing.
Please the screenshot:
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What configuration is missing? In SLD all business systems with software are maintained.
Thanks for help
Regards, Trevor

Dear Trevor,
Let me solve your problem,
In the snapshot it says clearly that "Search Criteria" Communication Component Selection "Value" for Product SAP SRM 7.0
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If you couldn't find the Product in the SLD then you must update your Content Repository to latest level SAP_CR 6.6 in SLD.
Please check the note for SAP CR Update:
SAP Note 669669 - Updating the SAP Component Repository in the SLD
Similarly you may face the problem for your ERP as well, so select Product SAP ERP 6.0 EHP 4 if you are implementing the same.
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Hello Experts,
I am trying to configure a scenario where in I am trying to use the IDoc ZCNOSE_PRICAT.PRICAT02.ZPRICAT1.
However, this IDoc is not reflected in the business system in which I am using.
I have already released the extension from the backend SAP system.
Can you please suggest what I am missing such that the extension is visible in the Business system.

Hi,
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