What is effect of closing account?
Now that Cap One is making it as easy as pie to merge one account into another, one question I have is what effect will the closing of the merged account have on my score? In my case, e.g., I would be merging a 1 year old account into a 3 year old account. The 1 year old account would be closed. How would this transaction be interpreted by the FICO algorithm monster?
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Exception Info: System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.MultipleMatchesException
Stack:
at System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.ADStoreCtx.FindPrincipalByIdentRefHelper(System.Type, System.String, System.String, System.DateTime, Boolean)
at System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.ADStoreCtx.FindPrincipalByIdentRef(System.Type, System.String, System.String, System.DateTime)
at System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.Principal.FindByIdentityWithTypeHelper(System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.PrincipalContext, System.Type, System.Nullable`1<System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.IdentityType>,
System.String, System.DateTime)
at System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.UserPrincipal.FindByIdentity(System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.PrincipalContext, System.String)
at Microsoft.ServiceBus.Commands.Common.SecurityHelper.IsUserValid(System.DirectoryServices.AccountManagement.PrincipalContext, System.String)
at Microsoft.ServiceBus.Commands.Common.SecurityHelper.IsDomainUserValid(System.String, System.String)
at Microsoft.ServiceBus.Commands.Common.ValidateUserAttribute.Validate(System.String)
at Microsoft.Deployment.ConfigWizard.UICommon.AccountDetailsViewModel.ValidateDomainUser()
at Microsoft.Deployment.ConfigWizard.UICommon.AccountDetailsControl.UserIdTextBox_LostFocus(System.Object, System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(System.Object, System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs, Boolean)
at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(System.Windows.DependencyObject, System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.Controls.Primitives.TextBoxBase.OnLostFocus(System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.UIElement.IsFocused_Changed(System.Windows.DependencyObject, System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.OnPropertyChanged(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnPropertyChanged(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.Controls.TextBox.OnPropertyChanged(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.NotifyPropertyChange(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.UpdateEffectiveValue(System.Windows.EntryIndex, System.Windows.DependencyProperty, System.Windows.PropertyMetadata, System.Windows.EffectiveValueEntry, System.Windows.EffectiveValueEntry ByRef, Boolean, Boolean,
System.Windows.OperationType)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.ClearValueCommon(System.Windows.EntryIndex, System.Windows.DependencyProperty, System.Windows.PropertyMetadata)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.ClearValue(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyKey)
at System.Windows.Input.FocusManager.OnFocusedElementChanged(System.Windows.DependencyObject, System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.OnPropertyChanged(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnPropertyChanged(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.NotifyPropertyChange(System.Windows.DependencyPropertyChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.UpdateEffectiveValue(System.Windows.EntryIndex, System.Windows.DependencyProperty, System.Windows.PropertyMetadata, System.Windows.EffectiveValueEntry, System.Windows.EffectiveValueEntry ByRef, Boolean, Boolean,
System.Windows.OperationType)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValueCommon(System.Windows.DependencyProperty, System.Object, System.Windows.PropertyMetadata, Boolean, Boolean, System.Windows.OperationType, Boolean)
at System.Windows.DependencyObject.SetValue(System.Windows.DependencyProperty, System.Object)
at System.Windows.FrameworkElement.OnGotKeyboardFocus(System.Object, System.Windows.Input.KeyboardFocusChangedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(System.Delegate, System.Object)
at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(System.Object, System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs, Boolean)
at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(System.Windows.DependencyObject, System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseTrustedEvent(System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessStagingArea()
at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardDevice.ChangeFocus(System.Windows.DependencyObject, Int32)
at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardDevice.Focus(System.Windows.DependencyObject, Boolean, Boolean, Boolean)
at System.Windows.Input.KeyboardDevice.Focus(System.Windows.IInputElement)
at System.Windows.UIElement.Focus()
at System.Windows.Documents.TextEditorMouse.MoveFocusToUiScope(System.Windows.Documents.TextEditor)
at System.Windows.Documents.TextEditorMouse.OnMouseDown(System.Object, System.Windows.Input.MouseButtonEventArgs)
at System.Windows.UIElement.OnMouseDownThunk(System.Object, System.Windows.Input.MouseButtonEventArgs)
at System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs.InvokeHandler(System.Delegate, System.Object)
at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(System.Object, System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs, Boolean)
at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(System.Windows.DependencyObject, System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseTrustedEvent(System.Windows.RoutedEventArgs)
at System.Windows.Input.InputManager.ProcessStagingArea()
at System.Windows.Input.InputProviderSite.ReportInput(System.Windows.Input.InputReport)
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndMouseInputProvider.ReportInput(IntPtr, System.Windows.Input.InputMode, Int32, System.Windows.Input.RawMouseActions, Int32, Int32, Int32)
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndMouseInputProvider.FilterMessage(IntPtr, MS.Internal.Interop.WindowMessage, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.InputFilterMessage(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(System.Object)
at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.LegacyInvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPriority, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)
at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef)
at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.DispatchMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef)
at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame)
at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window)
at System.Windows.Application.Run()
at Microsoft.Workflow.Deployment.ConfigWizard.App.Main()
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>Hi Karthik,
You could refer to the series of videos below to install and configure workflow manager in SharePoint 2013:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn201724(v=office.15).aspx
The Episode 2 describes the necessary account in AD with right permission in the installation process:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn201724(v=office.15).aspx#episode2
Regards,
Rebecca Tu
TechNet Community Support
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