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What is the physical interpretation of auto indexing.?
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It is like a Pez Dispenser. Every time the loop iterates the neck pops back and you get the next piece of candy. The loop keeps going popping out yummy candy (I don't like the peppermint but I do like orange) until the dispenser is empty. If you have more than one Pez Dispenser then their heads are all tied together so that they pop back simultaniously and cannot do so independently. This has the unfortunate consequence that once one of them runs out you are done even though there are still other Pez Dispensers full of strawberry or grape. Even worse, if one of them is empty then none of their heads can pop back and you get no candy whatsoever!
[Edit: I am trying to be funny and not sarcastic. I hope you don't take it wrong ]
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Auto index array

I have built a motor tester that gets 2 arrays of data from a power meter. This data is eventually stored in a TDMS file. I have light curtain that is acting as a duel purpose. First, it is instantly grounding the motor when the light curtain is broken for OHSA safety purposes. Second, it is sending a 9 volt DC voltage to signal the VI that the test is complete and to record the data to the TDMS file.
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Left: auto-indexing; right: manual-indexing
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I was under the impression that auto-indexing was the preferred method for this kind of operation: it achieves exactly the same result and it is much clearer in the block diagram. I also expected that auto-indexing would have been optimized in LabView, but the the tests show this is clearly not the case.
What is auto-indexing doing?
With two tests I looked at how auto-index works.
First, I looked if auto-indexing reorganizes the data in an inefficient way. To do this I made a method "fake-auto-indexing" which calls "Array subset" and "Reshape array" (or "Index array" for a 1D-array) when it enters _every_ loop and calls "Replace array subset" when exiting _every_ loop (as opposed to manual-indexing, where I do this only in the inner loop). I replicated this in a test (calling it fake-auto-indexing) and found that the performance is very similar to auto-indexing, especially looking at the trend for the different array lengths.
Fake-auto-indexing
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It seems that the performance problem with auto-indexing is due to inefficient data organization.
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Does anybody know any best practices when it comes to working with >1D arrays? It seems there is a lack of documentation about the performance, surprising given the significant differences I found.
It is of course possible that I made mistakes. I tried to keep the code as straightforward as possible to minimize that risk. Still, I hope somebody can double-check the work I did.
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3D-arrays, iterate pages-rows-columns
pages x rows x cols : auto    manual fake
   40 x 200 x 1000 : 268.9   202.0   268.8
   40 x 1000 x 200 : 276.9   204.1   263.8
200 x   40 x 1000 : 264.6   202.8   260.6
200 x 1000 x   40 : 306.9   205.0   300.0
1000 x   40 x 200 : 253.7   203.1   259.3
1000 x 200 x   40 : 307.2   206.2   288.5
100 x 100 x 100 : 36.2    25.7    33.9
3D-arrays, iterate columns-rows-pages
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   40 x 1000 x 200 : 291.6   461.5
200 x   40 x 1000 : 277.4   431.9
200 x 1000 x   40 : 452.5   572.1
1000 x   40 x 200 : 298.1   460.4
1000 x 200 x   40 : 460.5   583.8
100 x 100 x 100 : 31.7    51.9
2D-arrays, iterate rows-columns
rows x cols : auto     manual   fake
200 x 20000 : 123.5    106.1    113.2
20000 x   200 : 119.5    106.1    115.0
10000 x 10000 : 3080.25 2659.65 2835.1
1D-arrays, iterate over columns
cols   : auto manual fake
500000 : 11.5 11.8    11.6
3D-arrays, iterate pages-rows, operate on columns
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200 x   40 x 1000 : 74.3   27.6     62.2
200 x 1000 x   40 : 135.6   76.2    107.1
1000 x   40 x 200 : 75.3   31.2     68.6
1000 x 200 x   40 : 133.6   71.7    108.7
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Robert,
the copy-thing is not specific for auto-indexing. It is common for all tunnels. A tunnel is first of all a unique data space.
This sounds hard, but there is an optimization in the compiler trying to reduce the number of copies the VI will create. This optimization is called "in-placeness".
The in-placeness algorithm checks, if the wire passing data to the is connected to anything else ("branch"). If there is no other connection then the tunnel, chance is high that the tunnel won't create an additional copy.
Speaking of loops, tunnels always copies. The in-placeness algorithm cannot opt that out.
You can do a small test to elaborate on this: Simply wire "0" (or anything less than the array sizy of the input array) to the 'N' terminal.......
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it is terrible! I'm new in working with LV5.0 (Evaluation) and I can't
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> Hello,
> it is terrible! I'm new in working with LV5.0 (Evaluation) and I can't
> find any examples how to write data into an array without using the
> function "auto-indexing" of the "WHILE" or "FOR"-loops..
> The values do not appear all at the same time, so I can't use the
> "create_array" function.
> So I want to "collect" all occured values and then write them e.g. in a
> file.
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[Attachment Array.zip, see below]
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See example + VI with correct output as I expected.
OR
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Measurement array: 5, 6, 8, 4, 4, 9, 8, 7, 5
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Alice12 wrote:
I tried to generate your program but there is some problem (I dont know the false case).
And I want to find the maxima of each sub-array and then find their average (this should be the final output).
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Think about what you're trying to do.
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In the first iteration, we'd index 0 and get back a value from all three.
In the second iteration, we'd index 1 and get back two values and have a bounds conflict.
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I have attached the basic files.
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STigmata08 wrote:
Thank you very much, I had no idea that you could select a cluster size from the transformation. I am converting it to a cluster because I thought that it would be the best form to insert the data into different parts of a word template. I am trying to build an auto reporting tool for a test sequence.
You need to set thee cluster size, because clusters are static structures and the size needs to be known at compile time. This also makes them useless for your problem.
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106 MB SophosAntiVirus
66 MB Dropbox
57 MB com.apple.iTunesLibraryService
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161 MB Free RAM
1.55 GB Active RAM
1.41 GB Inactive RAM
902 MB Wired RAM
611 MB Page-ins
0 B Page-outs

Uninstall Trusteer software
http://www.trusteer.com/support/uninstalling-rapport-mac-os-x
Remove Sophos
https://discussions.apple.com/message/21069437#21069437

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