What is RESULT ANALYSIS,REVENUE RECOGNITION in PS

hi gurus
can any one explains me abt revenue recoginition and result analysis in Project Systems
thx
regards
mahesh

RA cannot be done with out POC
POC is an essential requirement to calculate the accruals and deferrals
There are various RA methods which basically calculate the POC
eg
Cost based -> POC = act cost/ plan cost
Rev based -> POC = act rev/ plan rev
Statistical -> POC can be entered manaully using statistical key figures
Progress Analysis -> POC is based on value from Progress Analysis - you need to set this up if you are using Progress analysis
So basically you can do RA without Progress Analysis to calculate POC. The determination of this depends on your company's financial policies and regulatory requirements in the country you are operating

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Revenue Recognition Accounting in PS Results Analysis

I am trying to understand certain aspects in the accountng involved for the process of Results Anaysis. In my case, we have configured RA for revenue recognition and all is working well. We have a project that has a billing element and an account assignment element under it. Invoices go to the billing element, costs go to the aa elemet. RA key is entered on the billing element. RA calculates Revenues and COS and the billing element settles them to PA. While calculated, defered and unbilled revenue post to FI using OKG8 configuration settings. All is fine on the mechanics of this.
What I do not understand is the treatment for the actual costs. Are they supposed to be settled to PA as well? If so...then, the costs seem to double up in PA (COS from RA calculated based on the actual costs via the billing element and Actual costs themselves from from the aa element). Are the actual costs supposed to remain in the aa WBS element and not be settled? It seems unbalanced. Can anyone explain?

Hi,
Settlement process involves a sender object and a receiver object. Receiver object is the cost object on which actual cost incurred in the sender object is settled. RA is one of the receiver objects for settlement, but not the only one.
Your scenario seems to be periodic calculation of WIP (result analysis) and final settlement of production orders.
The periodic WIP (RA) postings done in FI are reversed and replaced with COGM when the production order is finally delivered. The entries in FI at this stage is based on the "Standard Price" maintained in the material master (depending on the valuation variant). Then the final settlement of production order takes place and the total actual cost is arrived at. The difference in cost between "actual cost" and standard price" is settled to RA as a separate entry.
The reversal of entries when the production is delivered (as explained above) ensures that cost is not reckoned twice.
Hope this explanation meets your requirement.
If so, you may like to close the thread. Otherwise, please revert.
Muraleedharan.R

Revenue Recognition Functionality through Result Analysis (RA) key

Hi all,
We have a requirement for Revenue recognition, Can anyone guide me Revenue recognition functionality through Result Analysis (RA) key and functions of RA Key .
Regards,
Lal Maheswararao

Hi Makrand,
Thank you for your Valuable reply. Actually I am looking Specifically for the Revenue Recognition functionality in Cloud computing Business Scenarios. Like the income has to be recognized over the period of time on the basis of service provided. And it should calculate Percentage of completion for calculating revenues and Cost and how much profit it has to be recognised over the period.
These functions will possible through Result Analysis method. but i have very limited knowledge about RA method.
Can you please explain in general how Result analysis method will work and if possible with necessary configuration.
Regards,
Lal Maheswararao

Result Analysis - Profit Percentage based on Revenue

Deare Gurus,
While executing Result Analysis, we see profit percentage on the right side as percentage onthe basis of costs. We would like to view such detail as a percentage of revenue
eg: standard
Revenue - 100
Costs - 80
Profit - 20
Profit percentage = 20/80 = 25%
We want it to be 20/100 = 20%.
Please help!!!!

Hi Babu,
I think your example is not totally clear. From what I understand, you need to calculate a result in percentage based on the result of two other columns. What you can do is to use the first result (from the two columns) as a CKF. And then, to this CKF, use the result calcultation options of the query desinger for percentage.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Diego

What is the Revenue recognition process ?

Hello Experts,
Could you explain the concept of "Revenue recognition" and what is the use of this process.
Thanks and Regards

Hi
Revenue recognition controls the posting period in which revenues are entered and their value.
Revenue recognition means that revenues can be posted in FI independently from the billing document (which normally posts to revenue accounts). This means that revenues can be posted before, during or after billing or a value that has already been billed can be distributed between various periods.
Revenues can be posted periodically or on the basis of specific events:
Standard revenue recognition means that the billing document posts directly to a revenue account. This posting is made without involving the Accrual Engine, i.e. without a revenue recognition process.
Periodic (time-related) revenue recognition means that the revenue from a sale is distributed and posted equally across the entire contract validity period. Billing posts to an accruals account here and revenues are first transfer posted to the revenue accounts in a second step.
Service-related revenue recognition means that the revenue is recognized as the result of an event such as a confirmation or a delivery. Billing also posts to an accruals account here and revenues are first transfer posted to the revenue accounts in a second step.
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Manohar

Update Result Analysis not allow for category E(Revenue)

Hi,
While defining update for Result Analysis for Sales Order Costing - Controlling Area - RA Version - RA Key for WIP in Sales ORder - Line ID as Revenue - and category E(Revenue), put Secondary GL against Cost/Revenue in tcode OKG4, system shows message as :
Use only categories "A", "K", and "N" in WIP calculation
Message no. KQ115
Diagnosis
In the valuation method, you chose WIP calculation as the results analysis type.
Procedure
For WIP calculation, you can only update costs ( category K), settled costs (category A), and costs not to be included (category N [revenue], for example).
As a result while doing WIP on Sales order in tcode KKA3 system shows message as "No update of line IDs specified in CO area 0810 version 0 RA key 000004" in message no KJ208.
Here RA KEY 000004 is used for WIP on Sales Order. We have defined 4 line ids which are assigned with RA Key for WIP on Actual Cost against category K (Cost) for 3 line ids and 1 line is used with category A (Settled cost). Same way for RA key Sales Order I have to mention against category E (Revenue). But system does not allow me.
Best Regards,
Samat Roy

Hi Dadoni,
In OKG3 (Valuation Method) there are two different RA Keys I have maintained. RA Key 000002(WIP of Actual Cost) which is used with production order and RA Key 000004(Result Analysis for Sales Order) is maintained with Sales Order. Both the RA Keys have common status which are REL, DLV, PREL and TECO. Is it correct or wrong staus for Sales Order WIP ? Here status number area 1> PREL, 2> REL, 3> DLV and 4> TECO.
Kindly tell me for RA Key 000004(WIP on Sales Order) you have mentioned only 3 status which are REL, TECO and FNBL. Is it necessary to maintained more status for Sales order WIP. What will be its status number and inside parameter setting from RA Type to other indicator setting ?
Best Regards,
Samrat

Result Analysis , Settlement and Revenue

Dear Gurus,
I really appreciate if you can help me in resolving the below issue.
We are using results analysis and settlement processes in our project
We want to recognize the revenue before billing.
Is there any way I can post actual revene to financial accounting before doing
billing through Settlement.
I would be greatul to you guys if some one can help me at the earliest .
Thanks,
Viswas Anantharangachar

Hi,
In my understanding this is the requirement of Revenue recognition functionality implementation. This is more SD than PS function. Please use T-Code VF44 , or VF47.
Please remember that the RR functionality was not enough stable in the ver 4.7 so you must have ECC5 in place.
Enjoy SAP.
Dont forget to give points if its useful ans.
Namskar,
Ketan Dave

What is Importance of Financial Accounting in Result Analysis

hi sap kings........
please give me details of result analysis in financial accounting.

Hi,
Results analysis valuates the relationship between the costs and a measure of the order's progress towards completion, such as the revenue or the quantity produced.
Eg:
If the measure of an order's progress is the actual revenue, the cost of sales approriate for that revenue is calculated. The revenue, cost of sales, and reserves for imminent loss (if calculated) represent the profit on the order for the period, and are settled to Profitability Analysis.
The calculated cost of sales is compared with the actual costs, and either work in process or reserves for unrealized costs are created for the difference. Postings are made for these values in <b>Financial Accounting.</b>
Regards,
Senthilkumar SD

Results analysis for sales orders- actual costs/ revenues - (kka3-kkak)

Hi, i have a problem when I execute the individual results analysis for sales orders (kka3) I can see actual revenues and actual costs, however when I execute the collective processing (kkak) for the results analysis I don´t see these (actual revenues and costs). Is it normal? How can I see these in the collective processing?

Could be one of these possibilities:
1) Controlling Area set is wrong
2) You're input parameters are insufficient to get that sales order. Check Order Type etc you input in the main screen
3) The master data is wrong which is not allowing the link to the Sales Order. You would have to check each field thoroughly.
You will have to probably do a lot of checks before you resolve this. This isn't normal btw....you should see all Sales Orders
Assign Points if useful....

Revenue is not visible within results analysis

Hi Experts,
Am SD consultant , am not ware of about KKAK transaction and can you please throw ur ideas on below issue.
In Tcode- KKAK Actual result analysis for the sales order , revenue is not visable with in result analysis for sales order.
Can you please give your suggestion how can it get update tehre.
And also let me know this KkAK transaction details can see after creation of billing document or before billing document creation

The show interface command should give you a lot of details on the link usage.
You could watch the load, 5 minute input rate/output rate fields before compression and after compression to find
the realistic usage.
I am pasting a sample show interface output below
Router#sh int s0
Serial0 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is HD64570
Internet address is 192.168.100.2/24
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255
Encapsulation HDLC, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec)
Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
Last clearing of "show interface" counters 13:32:47
Input queue: 1/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0
Queueing strategy: weighted fair
Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
Conversations 0/2/256 (active/max active/max total)
Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
5 minute input rate 3000 bits/sec, 4 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 2000 bits/sec, 4 packets/sec
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Received 30857 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
2 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
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0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
0 carrier transitions
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What is Revenue Recognition

Dear Gurus,
I would like to tell you all that I do not know anything about the term Revenue Recognition except how to spell it.
I dont have commerce background also to understand the terms like provisional account and deferred account. I have to configure and understand the Rev Rec procedure. it was decided and discussed by earlier people that certain business process would be configured with Rev Recg functionality. So you can understand my situation. I want to know the theory and also want to know how it will take place in SAP SD to recognized the revenue in the last of every month?
Please tell me the end to end process, why it is used? what are the examples? where it starts and ends?
If any document other than SAP notes please provide me.
regards,
Sanjay

If any document other than SAP notes please provide me
Have you searched this forum before posting this question ?? Many times this was discussed. Please search and still if you are not able to find any inputs from this forum, let me know based on which, I will provide links.
In fact, I am not sure whether you have gone through SAP Note 1166848 explaining configuration settings for revenue recognition. If not, go through that.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

Result Analysis Valuation Method 3

Hi PS Experts,
The building block document on Profit Realization 'I58_BB_ConfigGuide_EN_DE' says that as per IAS 11 and 18, we need to configure Result Analysis Valuation Method 3 only which is cost based. Is it right and whether you are all having this valuation method in your SAP system where IFRS standards are applicable.
Then, in addition to this cost based Revenue Recognition through this valuation method 3, we would like to input realistic POC(Engineer's certificate) into the system. Whether it is possible and if so, how and what other valuation method we need to use with or with changes to a particular valuation method. Appreciate your valuable inputs on this.
Regards!

Hello,
Cost based POC i.e Method 3 is compliant with IFRS requirements. Other methods also are so.
The choice of RA method depends on value/risk/duration/revenue plan of the project. We use this method for high value projects running for a long time where there is a need to recognise revenue before actual billing.
Completed contract method is also used and very much in accordance with accouning principles.
For POC calculated through progress determination- say Engineer's certificate- you can use method 7.
Thanks,

Accrual run and revenue recog( time related revenue recognition)

Hi All,
Please let me know what are the configuration steps required to perform accrual run and revenue recog( time related revenue recognition) in R/3 when we do billing in CRM , for service contracts with start date and end date and billing plan - quarterly in advance
Required scenario:
Contract creation in Crm
Billing in CRM
Accrual Run in R/3
Revenue Recognition in R/3
can we do with the help of result analysis key and internal order .
Your valuable reply awaited
thanks
SK
Moderator: Thread locked due to cross posting.

Hi
Please refer the below mentioned link
http://fuller.mit.edu/sb_support/media_lab/deferred_revenue_recog.htm
http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-log-sd/intercompany-revenue-recognition-process-3042637
It may help you
Regards
Praveen P C
Edited by: Praveen Chirakkel on May 18, 2011 9:13 AM

Results analysis and settlement for projects with Sales Order

Hi Costing Gurus,
We are implementing SAP for ECO business in ECC 6.0 with SD, FICO and PS modules and we have contracting jobs which will run for longer periods. we are planning to POC method based on actual cost and Progress billing methods in projects. my understanding is that Reasults analysis will be used to calculate the WIP, Reserves, Losses etc.. however revenue has to be recognized using sales and distribution module with (SD-BIL-RR) component. How ever i have started testing this scenario in test system and i have couple of clarifications and seeking some help from experts to correct my understanding.
i have below questions.
1. KKA* . results analysis only calculates the amounts (WIP, reserves, losses etc.) or it can update the accounting.
2. i found from the blogs and online documents FI posting only happens through settlement and it specifies the Profitability segemnt should be used as receiver in Project . is it madatory to use profitablty segemnt. as we are not implementing COPA can i use any other object and what would be the impact of it.
currenty i have selected update RA key and i could find no FICO documents created with that.
3. Do i need to use Revenue recognition in SD along RA in controlling to get my accrual posting for recenues. RA can only serve Cost part of the project or it can Revenue accrual also ?
Seeking expert suggestion on this.
Thanks
Murali

Hello Murali-
To answer your questions,
1. When you perform Results analysis, it does not post any accounting documents. Results analysis only does calcuation of WIP etc and when you do corresponding settlement like CO88(production order) or VA88 (sales order), it will post accounting entries.
2. It is not mandatory to have profitability segment as a receiver. If you are using COPA, then you would need to settle it to COPA in the end. For example in case of make to order environment, sales order can be used as a cost object and hence the receiver would be a sales order where all the costs would get settled.
Hope this helps.
Shail

Result Analysis Question

Hi,
I need one clarification -
Is it really required to have a revenue in project to run the RA Key.
If i have a actual cost and i want split it into to components (one is 80% and other is 20%).
Then is it possible to achieve using the RA Key?
What i heard about RA is that it hits the controlling and accounting at the period end i.e. Month end and then during the next month appear automatically on the PS object i.e. WBS without doing anything. Is it true?
Waiting for help.
Thanks

Dear,
You should configure settlement peofile and here Allocation structure in in.And PA transfer structure defines where you wnt to settle.And for distribution of settlement amount you have to define source structure and distribution rule in settlement parameter.
Here you can define the percentage of amount that you want to settle.
Only the result analysis data is avilable to settle.
http://help.sap.com/SAPHelp_46c/helpdata/EN/3d/72369adc56d11195100060b03c6b76/frameset.htm
Follow the link.
PS>cost>automatic and periodic posting>settlement.
Sukhveer.

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