What it's worth (for what it's worth).

Folks,
I bought an iPhone for $600 because it was worth more than that to me. Now it's $400, but to me? I can't live without it. I use it every single day--starting when I first wake up, finishing when I go to sleep. And I can't imagine I'm alone.
The US dollar was worth a Euro five years ago--now it's worth 3/4 that. None of us can get a refund, and the longer one waits to spend our money, the lower the value will be in Gold, Silver, and certainly Oil. But gadgets? One expects not. It's not a commodity.
Another consideration is that Apple is in the business of selling Macs, iPhones, and iPods, and whomever wanted the newest and greatest (myself included) paid $600--and would have thought it was worth double that if Apple had distribution problems. But everyone knew even before it was launched it was expensive--but had we ever seen anything like it? No.
But Apple sold out the first round as fast as they could without causing widespread distribution problems--something Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony have never managed with new hardware--then, once the water cleared a little, dropped the price for the holidays. Yay! Early adopters have done their business, and now it's time for our friends and family. It's gift giving time.
Apple's primary consideration is their shareholders, and that's where this move makes the most sense. The hardcore acted first--some waiting in long lines, even. Now that the smoke has cleared and the novelty has faded, they are discounting the price. Far from being a sign of greed, it is a sign they desire that they continue to grow. As it should be.
Lastly: I haven't bought an Intel Mac yet, but I plan on it, and when I do, I expect it to be the same price as it is now or cheaper: not more expensive. The same goes for the iPhone G2, just as it has with my G4s, G3s, G1 Power-Macs and earlier. That's how it works folks. Competition gets more fierce, the price goes down, and ultimately all we are left with is a product. In this case, and iPhone. And is it any less awesome than it was on day 1? No.
--Mitch

consider and iPad or MacBook Air.

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My iPhone became wet at the beach. I put it in rice for 4 days. When I connect to itunes, it says the phone must be restored. It starts and then gives either the error 2001, or 2006. What exactly does this mean, and is it worth getting repaired?
Thank you...

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1275
Water damage isn't covered by warranty, but you could always purchase a refurbished device from Apple.

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For what it's worth

Literally. A few days ago, while sitting at my iMac, the familiar start of Buffalo Sprinfields- 'for what it's worth' began thumping from my speakers. Pretty soon I noticed there was no Steven Stills. It was the music and the background. Not a problem, reload at some point in the future. I have a copy synced to my iPad. It played fine. Today while listening to a radio station via iTunes the same song came on. No lead singer. Odd. I found and inserted my old CD and imported the song to iTunes. No lead vocals. Played the CD in iTunes. No lead vocals. I took the CD out to my car and played the CD. Works fine. Everythings there. I've checked some of my other old music and this song seems to be the only affecte song. Anybody else have this problem?

I had something similar happen to me once when I was using my computer routed through my stereo. I had a faulty component in the wiring setup and it was just sending a single channel through both speakers. For most music you barely notice it because the stereo channel split isn't all that great. For this one track, however, all the vocals went through the channel that wasn't being played. I had never heard this track before so it wasn't until somebody else heard me playing it the 5th time and asked what had happened to the vocals I even knew there were some!

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Always like to see peoples opinions about added plugins for logic pro.
WHAT ARE SOME GREAT PLUGINS WELL WORTH THE MONEY?
TYPE OF SOUND CAN BE SYNTHS/EFFECTS WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

i've stopped using external plugins cause it always ended up with some issues :
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- plugins would need to be updated all the time, and the new version would mess up with my songs
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of course i'm exagerating but :
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- i don't master half of them yet
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- i feel like plugins are the new video games. my friend don't play video game anymore, they download plugins and rave about the latest ones. i don't need plugins to get creative, and when i have an idea of a sound or a song, i've never thought "**** i need reaktor" or anything.
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I have an old Imac G4 from 2003. I haven't used it in years, but I would like to start. What are my options for getting it up to date? Is it even worth the trouble/cost? I was hoping to at least get it running Snow leopard, if not Lion. Options?

I have an old Imac G4 from 2003. I would like to start using it again, however it is so out of date and runs too slowly. What are my options to update it? I really don't want to invest a ton of money - I might as well get a new one, so if there are any reasonable ways to get it to run Snow Leopard or even Lion, please help. I've also considered using a mac mini? Is that worth it either? I'm not sure which way to go here. I don't want to trash it, I feel like it can be a great computer if updated.

Presumably it is running tiger 10.4.11?
It may be able to run Leopard 10.5:
Leopard system requirements:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP517
But that is as far as the old PPC Macs can go, and Leopard can cost up to $200 on Amazon.

Firmware downgrade helped - for what it's worth

For quite some time now I experienced problems with my WDS Airport network at my home office (Airport Extreme base and Airport Express remote - NAT provided by OS X Server 10.3). My MacBook Pro would have problems staying connected to my Airport network. Kept on disconnecting, or showed that it was connected, but couldn't see any of the Airport base stations. Very strange.
I also noticed that it must have had something to do with my neighbors' wireless networks around me. It seemed that whenever a neighbor's wireless network came online it bumped me off.
Anyway, after experimenting with WEP, WAP and WAP2 encryptions, as well as with Open network settings only with access control list I gave up. My MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo simply couldn't stay connected.
So I started digging around a bit and I found posts that described similar issues for others with other computer models like Power Book G4, iMac, etc. Now, my Power Book G4 never had any issues staying connected to my Airport network (used to anyway).
I read in one of the posts that it may have something to do with the Airport Extreme (V5.7) and Express (V6.3) Firmware updates. So I decided to take the plunge backwards and downgrade my Airport Extreme/Express Firmwares to V6.1.1 for Express and V5.5.1 for Extreme.
The downgrade went ok. Initially I had no connection (I guess because my last setting used WAP2 which is not available for the older Firmwares, so the config file was not the right format), but after resetting my Airport Base Stations to WAP I had connection.
At night I put all of the computers on the Airport Network to sleep. In the morning I woke my Mac Book Pro from sleep only to discover that no Airport Network was available.
So I logged in to the Airports from the server and pretty much tried everything. Set it to WEP 40, WEP 128, back to WAP encryption.. nothing worked (non of the computers on the Airport Network were able to connect anymore). So I finally gave up and had to settle for an open network without encryption, only access control list and closed network, and guess what. It worked. All computers can once again connect to the Airport network, and no matter what goes on with my neighbors and their networks I can stay connected. Putting the Mac Book Pro to sleep, waking up.. connected. No more disconnects now for the last 24 hours. I know it's too soon to tell.
But it seems that there may be some sort of problem with the latest Airport Firmware upgrades. Downgrading must have destroyed something though, because now none of the encryptions are working anymore.
If anyone has any idea on what I could do to solve this issue, that would be appreciated. Should I try to hard reset both base stations? Maybe that would do the trick?
Also, could it be that I may have copied old files with the migration assistant that belong to the PowerPC Airport drivers? Maybe that is messing things up. Anyway, have no clue.
All in all, I am happy with my Airport network, but not being able to have encryption worries me a bit. Also the speed leaves room for improvement. I have never seen my Airport network go faster than 12 Mb/s (of a theoretical 54Mb/s ... wow).
Anyway.. just thought I would throw this out there and see if someone has anything to contribute.
Mac Book Pro C2D 17" Mac OS X (10.4.8) iPhone needs a cam in the front

I feel your pain. Started logging on this morning with our computers (once we got power back on from a broken pipe) and man is it a mess. My wifes MacBook Pro wont remember our ABES network, nor will it show up. If we select other from the drop down airport icon and manually type in the name and password it is fine until we shut it down or restart it.
Unfortunately, my daughters newer iBook G4 cant even find our network, however, it will find other networks floating around the neigborhood. Go figure!
My sons snow G3 iMac this morning is having the same problem as my daughters laptop.
Our G4 iMac has no problem at all getting on the network and/or remembering it and automatically connecting to it when restarted/shutdown.
My Toshiba M35 laptop cant find the network but will find others and connect to them.
My 2 Dell Inspiron 5100 (one with an internal and another with a Belkin PCMCIA wireless) both connected to the base stattion with no problems.
Now, isnt that weird or what? We have soft reset the AEBS several times as well as hard reset with the same results as above. Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks,
Sean
P.S. This is after we have been running the current network/setup for about a year with no hiccups. Got to love apple and its firmware upgrades!

Apple TV (v2) and movie rentals - my experiences, for what it's worth...

I’ve been reading a lot of posts over the past couple of days about problems streaming rented movies, and thought i’d share my experiences as i’ve had a couple of days of head scratching and frustration trying to watch one of my own:
I unwrapped an Apple TV v2 at the weekend, which was a gift form a friend, and tried it out by renting a movie. This was yesterday:
Now I’m a Virgin media customer in the UK, with 10MB broadband (wired), which I figured would be fast enough to easily stream HD video - and sure enough my rental started up and played fine. For about 30 mins...
After this it froze, and gave me the dreaded ‘loading’ dialogue, which showed 7 hours as my wait, and it got longer as the day went on - not shorter.
I gave up, and decided to come back to it later, which of course was a foolish move, as everything that had been buffered was erased and i was back at square one.
I then tried again today and had the exact same problem. After turning on, and being pleasantly surprised to see that my HD rental began streaming perfectly with almost no delay, I was again kicked off after about half an hour.
So i decided to look at my ISP’s terms and conditions, and sure enough there are cap’s on my data traffic of 1.5gb during the day, and 750mb in the evening (until 9pm). Exceed either of these and your traffic speed is cut back by 75% for 5 hours.
So i did some digging, and found that the average HD movie file size is about 4gb. This means that it’s impossible for me to stream and watch a film in one sitting, as i’ll never have enough uncapped bandwidth to stream the whole movie in one hit.
Now some folks have talked about getting ahead of the game, and beginning a download ahead of time (like first thing in the morning) so that by the evening a film is waiting for you no matter how long the download time. But even if this works, you run the risk of losing the buffered file by hitting the wrong button on your apple remote. This to me is unacceptable.
So lets drill down to the details here:
Problem 1: the manner Apple TV v2 stores video. I’m no technical expert, but understand that the latest Apple TV has no hard drive - rather an 8GB flash drive. This would be enough to download and store an HD movie as a semi-permanent file, but Apple TV v2 doesn’t do this - it just uses it as a streaming buffer, which is cleared out periodically, and is easy to accidentally lose.
Problem 2: my ISP just won’t allow the amount of data transfer required to stream an HD movie without capping my download speed. Not between 9am and 9pm anyway (i’m going to see if i can stream the end of my film later without the beggars cutting me off).
Problem 2a (more of a gripe): Apple TV doesn’t warn you that the file you’re about to stream when you rent a movie will very likely trigger your ISP’s bandwidth throttling policy. It might be in their small print, but it should be there in big letters at the point of sale, just before you hit ‘buy’.
The Solution: There isn’t a satisfactory one for me really. I don’t imagine I’ll be renting any more movies directly from Apple TV. It’s too pricey to take the risk that I won’t be able to watch it, so back to DVD for me.
Now I could rent or buy through iTunes, and then stream to Apple TV, as at least I’d have a ‘hard copy’ of the movie on my MacBook and would be safe in the knowledge that once i had downloaded the file i could watch it from start to finish without interruption - but this is also less than ideal. I can’t get HD movies from iTunes, i’d have to go through the ‘planning ahead’ phase of starting downloading early in the day, and there’s still no guarantee it wouldn’t trigger the bandwidth throttling if it was a long movie.
The only other solution would be to max out my broadband package, although currently the most expensive package (which costs double what i pay now) still had a 3.5gb cap, so could kick me off just as i’m near the end of the film. Plus, i don’t watch that many films to make the expense worthwhile.
To wrap up...
If you’re on a decent broadband connection that in theory should be able to handle HD streaming then check your ISP’s regs regarding throttling. Even with throttling on, YouTube, iPlayer and other similar sites still worked for me, as they’ll happily cope with reduced transfer speeds. Apple movie rentals won’t. This might explain why some can use these services perfectly at the same time as being unable to view their rental.
If you’re an occasional film watcher in a similar position to me, don’t bother with movie rentals. Unless you’re on an uncapped, unthrottled broadband package it’s unlikely you’ll be able to stream an HD movie in one hit due to the file size.
Back to Blockbuster Video for me i’m afraid. At least until we get NetFlix in the UK
Hope you have more luck than I did,
McGinty

Thanks for the pointers folks. Yeah, 1.5GB is pretty poor isn't it? There are other suppliers, but you have to get a their phone line installed to access the internet so it's an £85 setup fee plus a day off work for a guy to come round and drill a hole in your wall before you even get to the monthly costs.
Don't get me wrong though - I'm certainly not an Apple basher, but am equally frustrated with both them and the ISP.
Virgin Media spend all kinds of money advertising their broadband as the fastest in the UK, but don't tell you (up front anyway) that you'll be cut off if you actually try and use it.
Apple on the other hand carry on with their 'it just works' mantra, but with Apple TV this only applies if you meet certain criteria (again, not mentioned up front).
I guess it aint a biggie, as i was gifted my Apple TV, and love all the other stuff it does, but from the number of posts on this forum can see that there's a lot of angry customers out there who want explanations as to why they're having similar problems to me.
Will be very interesting to see if Apple release any kind of software update that turns the flash drive from a buffer to permanent storage, to at least ease some of the pain...
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What's StyleContext worth for?

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Having trouble with disc space on my 120G mac air. I back up to a separate my passport for mac disc, but my mac is also holding 40G worth of back up when i check what is using space. Why is this?

Having trouble with disc space on my 120G mac air. I back up to a separate " my passport for mac" disc , but my mac is also holding approx 40G of back ups as well when ive checked what is using space. Why is this?
Ive started running iphoto from the separate passport to save space,
and put all my music into the itunes match to save space as well
but it is still saying it is almost full because of the back ups!
I should of bought a bigger mac, but i need to make do at the moment, but it is hard when it constantly has only 10G or less space left.

When you use TimeMachine to back up a Mac notebook the local backups feature is automatically enabled. The local backup is just like a TimeMachine backup but it is done to the internal drive rather than an external. The important thing about local backups is that the feature is smart - as you need more drive space for your own data and applications, TimeMachine automatically culls the local backup to give you that needed space. So yes, it will look like you have very little drive space left and that the backup is 'robbing' you of needed GBs. But it really isn't.

For what it's worth Steve, I have to give you some credit.

Watching the press conference yesterday I did seem to notice that Steve was a testy at times, but who among us would have held our tongue any better after a month of trying to come up with a solution, directing the company experts to find a fix, fielding questions, and on and on and on.
Where I have to give you credit is that what other CEO would voluntarily put themselves on a stage like a duck in a shooting gallery and have reporter take pot shots at them? MS puts out a bad product and people just stop buying it. Nobody holds Bill G personally responsible. But because Steve J will stand up and be seen he has to take all the crap with the credit.

ben101 wrote:
Based on those figures i actually think apple are being generous providing everyone with a free case (obviously they are only doing it for good pr, but even so, its going to cost them a fortune)
This I'm going to have to disagree with you on -- and it's not as if they're mailing a free case to each of the 3 million purchasers of the phone. They'll probably end up sending free cases to between 1% and 20% of the installed base. Even if it's 20%, and even if they sell 2 million more iPhones in the next three months before the offer ends, that's only 1 million cases.
Apple sells the bumper for $29, but best estimates as to its marginal cost are in the $2 to $3 range. So that's somewhere on the order of $3 million in materials costs, plus let's be insanely generous and say $3 million in G&A costs and shipping.
$6 million may seem a fortune to you and me, but it's nothing to a multi-billion dollar multinational.

HT1904 Some one got into my account and purchased 12.99 worth of stuff I changed my password and someone hacked it again and this time they pureschad what do I need to do cause I can't find a number for itunes

Someone hacked into my account and baught 12.99 worth of stuff I need to know what to do cause I changed password once and twice and they figured it out somehow when my wife and I were the only ones who knew new password

First, go to your purchase history and confirm that the purchases were actually made via your iTunes Store account. Many such charges are fraudulently submitted directly to your bank and did not actually come from the iTunes Store. If the purchases do appear in your purchase history, then go here:
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact/
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Regards.
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For what its worth...

http://twitter.com/samsungjohn
from SamsungJohn on twitter:
We are doing the best we can to deliver Froyo/2.2 for Fascinate owners.
about 3 hours ago via web
I'm a little frustrated but I am also still willing to give them a chance. It is surprising that the Froyo/Bing/CDMA/Google or whatever is causing the delay is still an issue, and I do think there is an issue..either a coding problem, conflict with Bing, the CDMA radio or even a small skirmish between Verizon and Google.
Unlike some others here I have a Fascinate that is working great so my reason for wanting Froyo tends to be somewhat different.
I am the network admin at the corporate office I work at. I am also the Alpha Geek for my friends, family, etc... I have learned through hard experience what not having timely updates can do. Android now has 1/3 of the smartphone market, it will become a target for exploits and remember everyone - Linux isn't exploit-proof it is just harder to exploit and it hasn't really been on the bad guy's radar. The people who compete at Pwn2Own and the other contests will tell you nothing is unexploitable. As our financial worlds become more intertwined with our phones the criminals' desire to access smartphones will become overwhelming.
The entire cell phone industry needs to understand and get into the mindset that smartphones need to be updated regularly, just like desktops and laptops or in the near future using a unpatched cellphone will be like going online with a Win98 computer - when you go offline you probably won't be the one in control of your device.

maryl wrote:
sandystorm wrote:
gsp10 wrote:
Seriously Why did Verizon have to put bing on this phone I bet that is the only problem with this phone being updated. Their was no point in putting something as worthless as bing on this google operated phone
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I for one could care less about Bing being on the phone. I just don't use it. I think the point being made here is that Google may be pi**ed off about it, after all all, Android phones are supposed to be Google phones. Maybe that is what is holding up the update(?) Hard to believe that is the reason, at least I hope it's not the reason. I hope the reason is they are trying to release a stable update, not a bug ridden one.
Ironically then one could say the IE problem on computers back in the day when people complained about it can be applied to Android devices. Android is supposed to be open source and that's one of the problems with being open source. Fragmentation at an accelerated level.
Not all Android phones are supposed to be Google phones. IF Google wanted them to be all Google phones they could have licensed them different, but allow the source code. They chose to go "Apache Software License" which is part open and part closed. Welcome to Marketing which is slowly backfiring. Give it a few and then everyone will slowly migrate to Meego(a lot of developers already switched that used to work on Android).
That's what they are probably doing. The one major bug people are having and affects ALL samsung CDMA devices is that it looks for GSM signal and that eats battery. It still plagues the Epic 4G, and Verizon may be delaying to increase battery life and to get rid of it. Who's to say... Rather have them do it right the first time around...

For what it's worth . . . Safari 3 reinstall

I, too, unthinkingly did the Safari 4 upgrade on my MBP. I was immediately unimpressed with the new features, turned off what I could and pushed what I couldn't to the background as much as possible, and did NOT upgrade on the other machines. I work about 50-50 Safari & Firefox, because they both have advantages for different things I do, so I figured, no big deal.
Then a friend called saying the new upgrade crashes on launch. Somethings up. They had no other browser, so I downloaded Firefox and used a flash drive to get the .dmg onto their machine. Then yesterday, I had to stop what I was doing, so I closed the lid like I usually do, and when I came back about a half-hour later, the fan was roaring and the computer was locked up. I had to power down & restart. A little experimenting and I determined if Safari was open when I closed the lid it would hang everything.
So I came to these forums (on Firefox) to see what was going on and read a number of threads about archive & install and messing in terminal and so on. So I decided to try what I did some time ago when I installed the +Safari 3 beta+, which was unreliable, and I wanted to get rid of it the second day.
I trashed it and took the earlier Safari version that was in the Applications folder in the clone on my external hard drive and dropped it in the Applications folder on the computer. I had no problems for the months that went by until I finally upgraded to the final version (some time after the release).
Last night, I trashed Safari 4 and dropped in 3.2.1 from the clone and everything is still working fine.
It may not work for you, or you may not have a cloned version available, but sometimes simple solutions work fine.
Each of my computers has a bootable clone partition on an individual external hard drive, re-cloned on a regular schedule. I've never had a catastrophic failure where I've needed to boot from it, but I have down-graded applications a number of times. The Mini (which is used as a server) has developed some issues since going to 10.5.7 a couple of weeks ago, so I'm probably going to throw the cloned 10.5.6 back on, because it was nice & stable. I don't use TimeMachine and cloning is cheap insurance for a number of reasons.

Hi,
For most people, that's probably 'good enough' as most of the gripes seem to be about the GUI more than anything, but note that you haven't truly reverted things to how they were with Safari 3:
Last night, I trashed Safari 4 and dropped in 3.2.1 from the clone and everything is still working fine.
That doesn't rollback the system frameworks that were installed with Safari 4. For most users, it's probably not a problem. For web developers, the pages they work with won't be truly what Safari 3 would show. Just something to bear in mind.

What GPU to get for CS6 + Are SSDs worth it for editing?

My current computer is an old dell xps 7100
Phenom x4 830 (Yes I know, I'd love to get an intel 3770k or something but I'm pretty strapped for cash)
Some tiny amd gpu, not sure which (can use gpu-z if really needed)
12gb ram
1 500gb hdd
The machine is really slow and the hard drive is filled up a lot, so I'm thinking of re-installing windows (possibly windows 8 for the faster boots and all) and clearing all of the junk. My other problem is that premiere and after effects are really slow, since its a pretty weak processor with no MPE acceleration. I have around $300 to spend on some upgrades, but I'm not sure which one to get.
I was thinking of buying a gtx660, since it has 2gb vram (which is better for more complicated projects I think?) and is really fast and a good value for gaming, which I also do. I could also get a gtx 650 and spend the rest on some HDDs for a raid, or maybe an SSD. Or I could buy a gtx 670 or 660 ti if they're really worth it. I haven't needed to use more than 8gb beforehand in projects, so I don't think i'll need to upgrade to like 32gb or anything crazy like that.
My main question is how much would the gpu acceleration accelerate everything? Would I just be bottlenecked by my cpu and hard drive? And If I did a raid array (raid 0), or got a SSD how much would that speed stuff up.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, and sorry if I put this in the wrong forum or something. First post here.
PS I read that cs6 is actually slower for exporting some stuff? Should I just use cs5 or cs4? I could just render the few things i need in cs6 first and do the rest in cs5 (like motion tracking and such). Or am i just overcomplicating stuff.

Hi Randal,
You are absolutely correct. I was getting the specs off the data sheet I have here and it was for the OEM version of the GTX 560 which has higher specs. I have so many video cards here, I guess I need to sort them out as OEM and non-OEM cards and keep them stored in different rooms.   lol.
As far as the GT 640, on an AMD system quad core, it did produce faster times than the GT440, even though the GT440 has a wider memory bandwidth.   That one is strange. HOWEVER, on an Intel quad core, the GT 640 was slower. Go figure.
Right now I am running tests with a GTX650 and a GTX 650 Ti.   So far the GTX 650 Ti is better than the GTX650 for rendering. Even though they are both 128 bit cards, they seem to work well in an AMD system.
As far as the GTX 560 non Ti holding back your system, I can see that. I am just finishing up building a new animation rendering system based on the AMD FX-6300 chip, so I am lookng forward to testing the various video cards I have here with it.   It was a budget build system, as I pulled the HD's, DVD drive, keyboard and mouse from an old system. It is NOT being used as a Premiere editing system, just for rendering animations with ProAnimator, Lightwave and a few other programs. But, I will use it to test video cards with.
Dave
RjL190365 wrote:
Two small corrections, Dave:
The non-Ti GTX 560 actually has only 336 CUDA cores, not 384 (that belongs to the GTX 560 Ti). Also, the GF114-derived GeForce GPUs have only a 256-bit memory interface width, not a 320-bit memory interface width. However, the 128.2 GB/s memory bandwidth is correct for a reference GTX 560 (Ti or non-Ti).
On the other hand, the GTX 650 does have 384 CUDA cores (same number as the GT 640 since both are based on the same GK107 core). But it runs at a slightly higher clock speed, has a 128-bit memory interface width and 80 GB/s memory bandwidth (versus 28.5 GB/s memory bandwidth for the GT 640).
In any case, the GTX 560 non-Ti is definitely holding back my i5-2400 auxiliary editing rig.

What it's worth (for what it's worth).

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