What memory slots on a k8n neo2?

If im using 2x512 sticks of OCZ ram. What slots should I put them in? They are in 1&2 right now. Does it make a difference in what slots there in?

You'll want them in the 2 closest slots to the CPU to run them dual channel. And yes, it does make a difference. Running them in single channel will kill the bandwidth and overall performance(1+3, or 2+4 are for single channel). It is always best to run dual channel if you can.

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8x agp no can't do on K8n neo2

Well,
I threw in the towel and settled...After all my previous testing and thinking I had something solved with my video freezing it would only return. I have however FINALLY figured out what causes it and I have no idea what to do. My k8n neo2 platinum will not run 8x agp. The x800 pro is either A) flawed or B) the board/chipset/agp slot is borked. I don't have another card to test with unfortunately. I know, I know there is practically no difference in performance which is quite right. Benchies show really no difference between 4x and 8x but I would like the stuff I paid good money for to work at the specs its rated and advertised to run at. I have done everything from reverting back to old drivers, loading defaults in bios, different chipset drivers, more voltage to vid card, aperture..etc. etc... I WANT 8X agp darnit Anyhow...did anyone else have this issue and fixes for it? Is it possible the card might be borked (oh yes I have the 4 pipes unlocked on the x800 pro but stock speeds). Could this cause the problem for only 8x? Im at my wits end and about to ditch the board...
On a positive note I did manage to get my winchester 3200 to 2.4 gig on air with only 1.4 volts...Had it up to 2.6 stable on air but temps were to high with stock cooling..

My last system only had a 4x agp motherboard and was perfectly stable for a year with this vid card...after updating to the k8n neo2 platinum with 64 3200, I get freezing only in games at 8x agp. If I reduce it to 4x then its fine. And I don't have another card to test, but I am leaning it toward being the vid card cause I hear a lot about freezing and lockups with x800 series cards. I did understand the chance of 1 of the pipes being bad when I flashed it and only did it because I could revert back if it was unstable. Well in my other system it was stable for over a year and its stable at 4x in this msi board but not at 8x...I did all bios checks, agp nvidia/ati speedup disabled, and I this was all at not oc too.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum & Adata bh5

Is there anyone who knows if i will have compatibility problems if i use two 512mb Adata bh5 memory modules with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum?

Quote from: duffyone on 31-March-05, 11:54:15
Now... don't LOL, but there is a reason I picked the 3200+ instead of the 3000+, but I can't remember why???
Probably because the 3000+ only has a 9x maximum multiplier, whereas the 3200+ will go to 10x.
2600MHz at 9x means a FSB of 289MHz and ram at 289MHz for best performance. Will your ram do 289MHz? Of course you *can* run your memory and fsb async, but I prefer not to.
Chip

K8N Neo2 Platinum is dead?!?

Hi all!
I've got a problem with my computer. After sending it to Standby, it wouldn't start again. AT ALL! There is nothing happening when I press the power button, even after disconnecting the power. Just the Power-LED is on, everything else stays quiet. No fans, no harddrives, no beeps...
I already tried another power supply, didn't help. I also unmounted everything from my mobo except the CPU, but still no result. It just won't do anything. ??? If it would at least tell my something with some error codes from the speaker or the D-Bracket...
Has somebody got any clue what is happening?
System:
K8N Neo2 Platinum
A64 3200+ Venice E6
4x512 MB Corsair VS
ATI R9800 Pro
I would really appreciate help!
Greetings,
Kristofer

Quote from: Schwede on 20-May-06, 17:38:49
Well, I'm gonna. Doesn't leave me much choice, but first I will test my CPU on someone elses board.
Nice illustration
Since I have to swap my mobo, I will upgrade to an nForce4 anyway and get a new graphics card (actually I ordered already ).
Then I have to get a new PSU anyway.
However since I cannot do this within the next 3 weeks, I am still trying to get my system running.
Well, if you have a mobo to try the CPU in, great, that's a good way to rule that out. If I had that option available, I would lean towards just swapping out the board since I am already going to have both machines basically torn apart. I usually don't swap CPU's without taking the whole board out of the case and POST testing it before mounting. I think that would tell me more than just taking my CPU out and putting it in another machine...but that's me.
The 939 & 754 sockets are much easier to deal with as opposed to the Socket A when the board is still mounted. I've seen bad things happen by not having the right angles and room to work in...
It all really depends on your scenario and what's available to you. Sometimes we are limited in our options since we don't have an inventory as enthusiasts opposed to a system builder. Not to mention the hassle of bringing your gear somewhere or having a friend bringing theirs to you.
Just remember if you are using a different chipset, not to let it try and boot to the OS. Really, all you need to do is see if will POST.
That metaphor is my favorite and gets the point across rather well

K8n Neo2 OCZ Memory Detection Problem

1.Product Type: K8n Neo2 Platinum
2.BIOS version: 1.D
3.External VGA Type: Radeon x1950 Pro
4.CPU Type: Athlon 64 3200
5.Memory Type: OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K 2 x 512MB
6.Power Supply Type: EnnermaxNoiseTakerII 485w
7.Operating System: XP/Vista Dual Boot
8.Problem Description:
I have just acquired the memory speciified above, but the system will not POST with this RAM fitted on the mainboard.
The RAM above is certified to run with my mainboard (K8n Neo2).
I have other RAM from OCZ which works fine.
This RAM is:
1 x 512MB OCZ400512ELPE
1 X 512MB OCZ400512EL
I have spoken to OCZ support and done the following:
Reset the CMOS
Increased voltage for the DRAM
Tried each of the new 512MB DIMMs individually.
But this has not helped and OCZ have no more suggestions other than to ensure that I have the latest BIOS, Which I think Id do.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

hi there,
what is your RAM which you are trying to run? is it OCZ4001024ELDCPE-K 2 x 512MB matched pair?
ensure you have used mainboard DIMM slots: DIMM1 & DIMM2
where DIMM1 is the 1st DIMM slot close to CPU socket.
have you tested each of memory sticks individually using DIMM1 slot? if yes what are the results?
remove power cord from the PSU and Clear CMOS
re-try to boot.
you can setup memory vcore manually from BIOS to 2.75V and Command Rate to T2 (all memory timings leave it to Auto) and re-test.
get a copy of Memtest86 and ensure no errors will comes during testing.

Kingston HyperX Memory & K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hello.
I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum board (BIOS 1.3) with AMD 64 3000+ 939 CPU.
I am trying to run this with 2 Kingston HyperX PC3200 512MB memory (KHX3200ULK2/1G). This is the latest "Ultra-low Latency" memory from Kingston.
When I run this memory with NO overclocking at 2-2-2-5-1 at 2.7 volts (standard setting for this memory) with a single module, I get NO errors. When I try both chips in dual-channel mode, I get errors (on MemTest86).
(I also get errors if I run this memory on "Auto" setting in BIOS)
I CAN run 2 sticks of Crucial PC3200 512MB (regular, not Ballistix) at standard settings in dual-channel with no errors.
Has anyone got this memory to work on this board in dual-channel mode? If so, how? At what timings?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally posted by Xak
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Originally posted by GlennVidia
In the meantime...
Try loosening up the memory timings first, start with 2-2-2-8 thru 2-2-2-11
Then if no luck try 2-3-2-6 thru 10 or 11 you may even have to resort to 2.5 3-3-X
You should be able to at least find a sweeter spot.
You may even have to go to 2T and non aggressive settings.
Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
First of all, I said "in the meantime," meaning until someone else came up with a better answer. If I have problems with memory, regardless of what the manufacturer says' I hunt for a sweetspot (if there is one).
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Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
That's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Two different manufacturers and likely different chips onboard, not to mention likely different PCB design.
What I suspect is either one stick is further out of spec than the other and they are not a properly matched pair. Kingston has a history with the nForce chipset which leaves little to be desired.
That is why you might see very similar systems, and one works with the same ram, and the other doesn't. It's called parametric differences. In short, one stick my be at the upper end of the spec and the other stick may be at the lower end. Then, throw in the motherboard, and the CPU, (now with the onboard memory controller) while we're at it, and you have a real touchy situation. There is little room for lower quality. That is why matched pairs exist. Doesn't mean it's mandatory, however.
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On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
I take it you know this person, otherwise this is not making sense or you are a pretty slick hijacker
Matched set can still be flawed, I get em from the best once in a while. It may not be the RAM at all. Only way to tell for sure is to try it on another identical system or try another pair that passes muster in another identical system. All this speculating is useless unless you've exhausted all possibilities.
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The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
Not wrong, maybe a little overoptimistic. Some situations warrant different measures. It's not that black and white, nor is it written in stone. At this point it only indicates there is indeed a problem, where it lies, would be better off using a dartboard to guess at this point.

What RAM for o/cing 3500+ on K8N Neo2 Plat?

Hi all,
Ive been reading all the problems with o/cing these little beasts, and i hope to god i dont run into any of them!
Im not using SATA or RAID so i guess thats a few problems out the way. My current RAM is really turd though, and its time to buy some new stuff. I want 1gb of something that is hopefully going to hit 250x10 with decent timings. Am i hoping for too much? Ive seen a few people with this setup though.
Ive read the recent Anandtech 3200 memory roundup, and had made up my mind on getting the crucial ballistix stuff. Its the only RAM in the test that hit DDR500 and beyond on the A64 platform. (Supposedly on the K8N neo2 aswell) But after more digging it seems that this is infact a load of crap.
What do i buy???????
I dont want to shell out a load of cash on something that isnt going to perform. Im gutted that the crucial 3200 RAM isnt as good as i was lead to believe. It would have been great running DDR500 at those timings.
Anyway, ill also need to get a better HSF. The thermalright slk948 looks good but my local place just got the XP-90's in. Cant seem to find a decent review of them anywhere either. Any recommendations???
Any help would be great,
Cheers

I thought HT Frequency would affect memory throughput but apparently not. I'll try dropping it to 3x. Thanks.
Memtest is good at finding finding errors in a standalone environment by writing a particular pattern to every location in memory then reading it back to make sure it hasn't changed. So it very good for finding marginal chips and validating that everything is properly hooked together. It also has the advantage of running standalone so you eliminate any XP/driver issues from the equation.
Prime95 is an excellent CPU/memory exerciser because it checks the accuracy of an elaborate computational algorithm to make sure of the results. And since it is running under XP it also tests the entire configuration to some extent because drivers and hardware that are marginal will likely fail much faster under the constant load.
What I call Prime95 Lotto is particularly cool. It is the search for the first 10,000,000 digit prime number. If you find it you get a large share of a $100K prize which is currently about $50K. It also runs in the background and utilizes the CPU 100% without affecting your other apps so you can still use your system while it is running.
The Red Rocket Folding Team effort also makes a great background stress tester.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?boardid=30
I've also found a great graphics stresser:
http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/
Get both going and you really work your system!

K8N Neo2 with AMD 4200 X2 - Memory config.

Will my AMD 4200X2 allow me to use 4 sticks of 512 MB on the K8N Neo2 motherboard? I know that there have been issues using 4 sticks on with AMD 64 3500 chips, but I don't know if this still applys to the newer X2s.
Thanks for any info on this.

Quote from: qyx on 25-August-06, 15:00:42
The user manual for the Neo 2 says you cannot do it because it was written before Venice and later cpus, so it is outdated in that it does not recognize that 4 identical dual sided PC3200 dimms will run at 400 and not just 333 with the newer cpus that came out after the user guide (manual) was written.
Edit- LairdD- You miss the point -- you don't have to overclock to do it, you just need identical dimms and the right cpu.
No, qyx, you missed the point, uhh... twice. My previous post referenced the AMD [26094.pdf] doc on the subject... which you appear not to have read... not the MSI manual.
The newer >=Rev E CPUs have the same speed specs as previous ones on fully populated ranks in both channels. I was not talking about overclocking in any way or form; what I was saying is that if your memory DIMM spec is overrated, i.e. above PC3200, you may be able to do better than the AMD specs simply because you're then underclocking the memory. While I haven't tried it I seriously doubt that you can get DDR400/1T with 4 full ranks on both channels.
There's also the point that even if the DIMM mfr has the same identical part number, the chances of getting an exact match on DIMMs purchased a year or so apart is slim. It's also wise, when considering that a memory upgrade may be contemplated in future, to buy single rank DIMMs if available.

K8N Neo2 with 4 x 512 mb memory modules (2gb)

I read it can be done... has anyone here tried this setup: 2 gb in four 512 mb memory modules???
I was just wondering if there was a problem or bug to know about, also how good is the overclocking with that many ram installed... or even if its posible!
Thanks

Quote from: Wonkanoby on 17-February-05, 10:15:08
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=607
4 double sidded dimms will run as pc 2700 ie 333 not 400
The truth is this motherboard/chipset only supports DDR400 speeds... and almost everybody exceeds that speed.
Anandtech review from June last year says the followin:
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The MSI K8N Neo2 was able to run with all 4 DIMM slots at the same aggressive 2-2-2-10 settings used for 2 DIMMs. However, as we have seen on the other 939 boards running all 4 DIMMs, Command Rate must be reduced to 2T when filling both Dual Channels.
So its the price to pay perhaps when using all dimms, unless a new BIOS would have changed that. I doubt that, as this happens to all 939 motherboards as well regardless of the chipset.
This is the link to the review: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2128&p=11

Powerbook Lower Memory Slot Issue, what are my options?

Hi there,
I have a Powerbook G4 1.5ghz that I purchased in October of 2004. I had no problems with it until after upgrading the RAM to 2 x 512mb chips and then installing Tiger which resulted in me later notcing the missing RAM and learning about the lower memory slot failure issue.
I find that sometimes if I remove the RAM and try and power it up and then replace the RAM again that the lower slot ocassionaly does come back. Trouble is though that the machine will either crash or I loose the other RAM slot when I have to shut it down. It seems to be so intermittent this way and I'm tired of constantly removing the RAM to fiddle about with it.
My serial number begins W8441, so it isn't covered by the returns programe. I would call Apple Support, but I am put off by a £35 charge just to have them discuss and diagnose the problem.
I'm in the UK and as I don't have Applecare and I'm not elgiable for the returns programe can anyone tell me what they charge for a logic board replacment? Looking at what they charge in the US, it's not cheap.
I use my Powebook for Final Cut Pro, DVD Studio Pro, After Effects mainly and I had been alright with 1gig when it was working.
I'm really trying to decide what the best thing to do is....
- Do I pay for the logic board replacement, which I'm not really sure I can afford right now, or to be without my machine... especially as I have read that it can just fail again.
- Should I just buy a 1gig stick for the upper slot and try and sell my old RAM, as that would be cheaper than getting the logic board replaced?
It's a real shame that Apple doesn't seem to want to ackowledge that this effects other users as I'd been so impressed with everything about Apple up until now.
Thanks for any advice.

(Browse down for findings and questions).
The notorious lower-memory-slot-bug has hit my finally too... I never believed it until now (and I've immediately signed the petition).
I am outside warranty and I never bought Applecare either.
Also my powerbook, a very dear machine to me, is a less common type to have this problem: a 1 GHz G4 15" FireWire 800 OS 10.3.9 type. Funny enough my older powerbook ( a G3 Bronze) is still running strong with no problems whatsoever.
My G4 15" also has the "white spots" problem and a dead superdrive... I cannot believe how many hardware problems I'm having with this machine in comparison to all my older macs - even my sluggish powerMac 7200/90 never gave me this many headaches...
Alright, I'll stop complaining for now.
I've been able to browse the internet on this and found the following statements:
The lower memory slot gets "fried" because of a OS 10.3.9 upgrade,
or possibly due to overheating when the powerbook is put on the users' lap,
or possibly due to picking the powerbook up by the corners so the metal gets bent.
+ I have only seen one case where someone's UPPER memory slot was defective.
The solution to this problem (replacing the logic board) didn't seem to be definate in many cases so I'm reluctant to try this myself (and I have very little money). The alternative (replacing the upper slot memory with a bigger type of RAM) seems a bit scary to me,
because I wonder:
-will the upper memory slot RAM get "fried" eventually as well after a while?
-do you need to have something installed in the lower slot or is it possible to just install one RAM card only?
-are there more people with a 1 GHz PB that have this problem? It seems it's mostly people with a 1,67 GHz that have been bitten by this bug and maybe that's why Apple decided to give the majority a free repair. I am not sure whether that is a common policy, I am part of the minority it seems.
As a solutions someone posted on a board that we should all buy KTA-PBG4333/1G RAM, but here in Dutch stores it is said this memory is only compatible with 17" powerbooks....
Does anyone know if it is suitable for 15" as well??
G4 Powerbook Mac OS X (10.3.9) 1 GHz G4 Powerbook FW800

[MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum] Is the motherboard dead? HOW? What? Hein?

Hey!
I am having big problems with my MSI K8N Neo2 54G Platinum. It was a really great board until the day the system could not power up. I pressed the button to turn it on and nothing happened. So I shutdown the switch of the PSU and switch it on again, while looking inside the case. This time the CPU and Northbridge fan moved, and the led of the wireless card turned on. But that happens only for half a second. The fans imediatly shut down. I checked if it was the problem of the case button, but it is not 'cause with a direct connection the same happens: the board won't boot. It doesn't even beep. Completely quiet. Any suggestions?
I am sorry for my English and thanks in advance
A64 3000+ 90nm s939
MSI K8N Neo2 54G Platinum
2x512 Patriot XBLK TCCD
200GB Sata
20A@12v PSU
PS: The computer was working fine 'till this happened.
Nukke.

Yes it can still be the PSU , e.g not accepting ps_on giving pwr_ok to mobo in-line with the correct timing specs .
It can also be motherboard not sensing pwr_ok from the psu .
The whole startup proceedure of a modern PC is complex and it is more to it than just amps and wattage and a on/off switch.
PSU itself does Power On Self Tests (POST) before the motherboard starts to powerup.
These tests determine if all the voltages are up to design specification and stable before sending a signal to the motherboard.
If the POST completes successfully, a POWER_GOOD or POWER_OK signal is sent to the processor over the POWER_GOOD line.
This signal must be continuously present for the system to operate and, if withdrawn (due to a brownout, for instance), will generate a system RESET.
The system will remain in a continuous RESET mode until the signal is restored. Since the processor initializes in the RESET mode, the system will not start until sensing the PWR_OK signal.
The AMD64 systems is strict to the power up sequence and at startup of a non mobile system
like this desktop motherboard the power state registers in the cpu is to be set/started correctly , and they are initialized with full power.
This aswell as the motherboard and PSUs cooperation of the ps_on/pwr_ok sequence and timing is in-line with
the latest atx spec makes it hard to say exactly where the problem is when things like this happends.
This is one of the major reasons we who replies here recommends "known" PSU brands , not only 12v=30A , cause
that "high enough" amperage don't mean s**it if the PSU is dodgy when it comes to theese other factors.
It's all quite complex , all that needs to be in-line and within given times and values that happens in the system when you hit the PCs on-button .
It involves sequences , initiations and values done by/in : CPU / p-states /LDT / Memory controller / motherboard / PSU , and more.
So an investment in a "good" ( known brand , respectable manufacturer, well reputated and with enough amperage ) PSU is a solid investment
that will serve you well for a long time , not only in current rig but down the road also .
Down the road if you also add some reserve for future updates when it comes to the strenght of power on it rails , then you may have goin_on it in several builds and updates.

K8N Neo2 memory question

Im building my new system
AMD 64 3800+
MSI K8N NEO2 Mbo
1 gig dual channel Corsair 400
Ati X800XL
Audigy 2 ZS
The memory I bought is dual channel PC 3200 for 400 speed.
Now in the BIOS I only have option up to 200 frequency speed .
The available options are 100, 133, 166, and 200
Is this correct?
Now there is another option called High Performance mode.
here I can adjust the memory up to 400.
I havent touch this because I dont know if its here where I can increase the speed or not, I rather ask first.
Thanks a lot

The first option you mentioned is to set the frequency for the CPU. The second is to set the frequency for the memory. So if your CPU is a 200MHz set that at the first option then x 2 for the memory option.
Good Luck
Jeremy

K8n neo2-f motherboard - what does your post 'splash screen' say?

Just curious - I recently upg'd my rig to this K8N Neo2-F motherboard, with an A64 3500+ Venice chip. I have the option for the boot-time splash screen, versus the post text messages, turned on. When it boots, it shows a splash screen that says 'Platinum' on it. Is this what other ppl's boards of this model say, or did I somehow get a Platinum version of this board?

enough said, then
I suppose the fact that I don't have dual onboard nic's might give me a hint that my board isn't platinum
Anyway - if the splash screen had just said 'MSI', like my old KT4AVL board did, I might not have wondered....but saying the model name of an upscale model made me wonder......

Bios issues with k8n neo2, turn of memory test, and dmi pool data

Hey guys.
I recently flashed my bios to the 1.9's for the K8n neo2 running in my main machine.
Everything went ok for the most part, though i had some issues with boot record, and boot.cfg file. That stuff is all worked out now.
However, with this bios, I constantly get the extended memory test, on my 2 gigs of ram. The old bios i had, 1.4's, didnt do that. Is there an option to turn that off? I cant seem to find it any where?
My 2nd question is this, after this bios upgrade, my verifying dmi pool data takes longer then it used to, if it even did it before, im not sure, because my boot sequence was much faster.
How can I get rid of the "verifying dmi pool data" or speed it up?
Thanks guys

Tried to used the Bios 1c by Syar's. His bios is nice and easy. Maybe bould solve your problem.BTW do used liveupdate to flashed your Bios or is it manual? Stay away from using liveupdate as it causing a lot problems. Manual is the best way. Refer to my sig for the manual flashing. Here's the location of the files for the Bios 1C. Gd luck.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0
P/S: Create your own rig with details including the PSU and Bios revision and put in your signatures so others can help you.

Do I have a bad memory slot and what to do about it.

About 3 weeks ago when I came down to my computer, intel imac purchased may 2006, in the morning the screen was black and power button was lit, keyboard did not work and the computer would not wake up from sleep. Rebooted and the power light would come one, no chime or screen power up, and the keyboard would not respond (ie caps lock key would light up). Tried multiple reboots and pulling everything connected out but nothing worked. Next on the torubleshooting list was to remove the ram. With both chips removed, 1gb and 512mb, I would get the flashing powerlight when starting up. I placed back in the 512 chip which is in the slot furthest from the front and the same symptons of just a solid power light with nothing else was exhibited. Removed the chip and placed the 1gb chip back into the slot closest to the front of the computer, everything worked fine. Startup was normal etc. Next, I removed the 1gb chip and put it into the slot towards the back and it would not work, next, moved the 512 chip to the front and all is well. Therefore, I think I have a bad memory slot given the torubleshooting procedures. Is this a correct assumption?
Here are my questions:
1. Are there any software solutions that will tell if the memory slot is indeed bad?
2. Does this sound like a hardware issue or is there an update to the core system that would fix this problem?
3. In order to get this repaired, would I take the imac to the apple store?
4. The computer was purchased in May 2006, if I purchased an applecare protection plan, would that cover the repairs or does it need to be purchased within 90 days of the computer?
Thanks in advance.

I think that sounds like a firmware update gone bad. Apple page I found says: "In the rare case that your computer displays a black screen after start up, you will need to restore your computers firmware back to factory condition before you can apply firmware update."
Dont know, but sounds like it.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303364
may be worth a try.

What memory slots on a k8n neo2?

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