What RAM for KT3 Ultra2-R

Currently I have:
1 x Samsung PC2700 256MB CAS 2.5
I want to upgrade to 512MB. I could get another stick of Samsung, but I would prefer to have it on 1 stick, plus there is only 1 place I can find in the UK that sells them and I'd prefer not to deal with them.
So I'm thinking Crucial would be a good choice, as lots of people recommend them and they will refund/exchange if anything goes pear shaped.
512MB DDR PC2700 • CL=2.5 • Unbuffered • Non-parity • 6ns • 2.5V • 64Meg x 64
£116.09
Doesn't sound too bad to me. Has anyone had trouble with Crucial RAM on the KT3?
I've also noticed that Corsair do PC3000, 3200 and now 3500 CAS2 modules. Firstly, can my board handle them, and would there be a noticeable difference between them and the Crucial?
System spec:
AMD XP2200+ TBred A
MSI KT3 Ultra2-R
Samsung PC2700 256MB CAS 2.5
Geforce 2 Ti
300W PSU (soon to be Enermax 430W)

Hi,
I suppose you realise that you can't install multiple sticks of high speed RAM and maintain the memory bus speed that would be indicated by the RAM speed?
Because of issues with the VIA chipset and others, the timing control of the memory bus is basically, barely under control and can only cope with a single stick of high speed RAM at the nominal RAM speed, say DDR400. Each additional stick will "clock-down" the memory bus to the next lower default setting, ie two sticks - DDR333, three sticks - DDR266.
It all seems rather unsatisfactory and in reality, it is but there is little to be done at the moment until such time as VIA and others develop chipsets that can properly cope with the demands of genuine high speed RAM.
So, I guess this means that if you want to increase your RAM size and maintain the highest possible memory bus speed, you are limited to a single stick of 512MB, 1GB (if they're out there). I've heard and read patchy reports of the performance of Crucial RAM and as a result, would not really recommend it. Corsair on the other hand, is very well engineered and manufactured and I would not hesitate to recommend their products in whatever combination of speed/size that you wanted to use. Hope that helps some,
Cheerio,
Dimal.

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Originally posted by modelt
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Originally posted by Toenne
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