What's New in Mail.app

Hi,
I am about to buy Snow leopard in a few days and I use mail.app extensively. Just wondering about the new features in mail.app. is it faster? any new features?
I don't connect to exchange server

Dave, in Leopard, Mail.app does not define the font for body text email unless:
1. You explicitly set it manually with each email
2. You use some kludgy work around like leaving a blank row at the top of the defined signature set with the font you want defined. Then you start typing in the top of the signature, deleting the body text space above.
Also note if you happen to explicitly set it to what you've defined as your default Message Font in preferences, then actually STILL won't set it. What you manually set it to, must be different from the Message Font set in preferences.
The above also appears to be the case in Snow Leopard based on the test emails I've sent.
Have you checked by viewing source of your emails in Mail.app and/or on other clients? I've checked with Mail.app, Yahoo, Google, Zimbra and Outlook. Sadly, with no defined font attributes in body text of Mail.app emails each client shows it's default. It's pretty bad what the formatting can end up looking like on the other end.
I'm not a fan of Outlook, but it does do a great job of making sure that formatting that recipients see in emails I send, matches what I see on screen. Fun part <yikes!> with Outlook is whether recipients will be able to open the message. With the dominant client market share of Outlook though for work email, it's unfortunately not a big issue.
My inability to get emails from Mail.app to our corporate standard font and size, at least for me, is a big deal <PIA!>.

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