When Moving To Leopard Please Do A Clean Install

There are so many questions on this forum and in the DVD SP forums about installing Leopard and having issues with FCS2.
*NOTE: FOR BEST PROTECTION AND BACKUP, ALWAYS CLONE YOUR BOOT DRIVE TO ANOTHER DRIVE, EXTERNAL OR INTERNAL, USING CCC OR SUPERDUPER.*
It's been said many times many ways:
1. Do not do an update install.
2. Do not do an *archive and install*.
3. *Backup your critical files, mail, etc. to a third drive. Know what you are doing and make certain you have original installers for all your needed applications and serial numbers*.
4. Do a clean wipe of your boot drive, install Leopard and update the OS.
5. Install FCS, and do a software update repeatedly to get to the latest versions of your proapps and proapps support.
Install the rest of your apps, and restore the critical files.
*KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING*.
For those of us who have done this, the early reports are no or minimal issues.
*HOSTS - Please don't delete this*.

I'm actually working on this today; I've got Leopard installed and running on a clean, zeroed out drive on my MacPro. I've done the updates (There weren't many since I got 10.5.1 on the disk) and I'm ready to install a brand new FCS 2 that arrived via UPS Friday.
I've got FCS 1 on another drive with 10.4.10, along with everything else I use, all nicely backed up, so I'm free to forge ahead with this new installation. When it's finished, and I've updated to 6.0.2, etc., I will copy over one or two of my project files (all my media is stored on an outboard RAID), and update them, relink the media, and check them out.
I imagine I'll be keeping the old versions for awhile, too, until I'm really sure. But this way, I don't really have to worry, or bother backing up the new versions, until I'm ready to make the permanent switch.
I'll post later on how it went.

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I recently did a clean instal of Lion (which was wayyyyy to difficult by the way--why this wasnt an easy option to begin with I do not know and am not happy about).
In my sleep depravation from the previous problem I accidentally synced my contacts from mobile me to take my computer contacts (deleting all my contacts from my phone and computer).
Fortunately I have a back up on my time machine from my previously installed Snow Leopard.
I tried to restore these files, but they seem to not be compatible.
Steps I took:
1.) -Opened Address Book in Lion
-Opened time machine
notes: i could not go backward in time with lion address book
2.) -Copied files from time machine address book to desktop
-completely unable to open files.
I do not want to use migration assistant because it seems to want to take ALL my files over and frankly thats not what I want to do at all.
PLEASE HELP!

Hi,
See this Excellent Link by Pondini on TM:
http://web.me.com/pondini/AppleTips/Index.html
May be Helpful...

Leopard wireless issues and clean install

I've been wrestling with wireless problems since upgrading to Leopard (I've discussed my issues on this forum). I've tried all the suggested fixes I've found, but still have spotty wireless. I'm going to try a clean install next (erasing my hard drive). Any suggestions on how to do this and increase my chances of solving the problem? I'll have to install Tiger first, as I only have a Leopard upgrade disc (not full install).
Thanks in advance.

There is an Upgrade DVD. It's called the "CPU Drop-In DVD" and was being shipped with new Macs that had already been built when Leopard was released. Several of my clients received their new Mac's with Tiger after Leopard was released. It was a choice of either take back the computers and reformat them and then repackage them. Apple chose to just include the disc.
I suppose the DVD could do a fresh install on a machine it came with, or one that matched certain criteria.
Many users of older machines have tried to use these DVD's to install Leopard to their Mac's that otherwise meet the hardware requirements for Leopard. It didn't work. The installer refuses to install to the older machine.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Leopard+drop+in+dvdproblem
I have no information about how the installer verify's the suitability of a machine, but using the DVD on another computer would violate the EULA.
Another thought... If you do a fresh install of Leopard you will probably want to reinstall iLife from your Tiger DVD's. iLife is not on the retail DVD, and I don't think it's on the drop-in DVD.
You may want to make a bootable clone of your existing Leopard installation with SuperDuper, just in case there are any problems with the installation or there is no improvement. Then you can just re-clone your backup to your boot drive to save time and effort.

Upgrading to Leopard or do a clean install?

Hi
I just bought Leopard and installed it like they show it in the Guided Tour. Of course it is very handy that all my files and settings are saved and used in Leopard as if I hadn't changed OS at all, but was just wondering if it would be good to do a back up of my files and do a clean i install of Leopard? The reason why I would consider this is because when I had a Windows computer after a few months of use all kinds of crap were on my disk and a fresh install of Windows could take care of that. But maybe Macs don't get "filled up" in the same way? Or if they do, maybe "all that crap" is removed even if you only do an upgrade and not a clean install?
Thanks

I have an external HD I can copy my files to so doing a clean install would not be a big problem, but I just don't know if I wanna go through all that if it doesn't even help. Leopard is running fine, though I was expecting it to be a little faster (I was told it would be faster partially because of the 64 bit anyway), the animations when using stacks for instance is not as smooth as they could be. But that could be caused by many other things to I guess and not necessarily because I didn't do a clean install.
By the way now we're talking back-ups, if I try out Time Machine and back up my HD using it, can I then, if I change my mind, do a clean install of Leopard and use the back-up created by Time Machine to get my files back into my HD?

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com.apple.webapp.ACSServer.plist
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None of my Applications transferred when Backed up my Mac for a Clean Install

I recently copied all of my important folders & files to an external drive -- everything under my user file. My documents, Music, Photos, etc. all backed up correctly. So I clean-installed mavericks.
Today I opened up my applications folder to get MS Office back, and the only thing in my applications folder is a folder named "Akami." That's it. My Microsoft Office Suite--powerpoint, word, excel--photoshop, dreamweaver, and MORE are all gone, and the only place I had them was on my mac.
First, why didn't they back up like everthing else did. Second, if I formatted my drive, is there ANY WAY to get these back? And no, I didn't time machine or anything else because I thought they were on my drive.
Thanks.

Yallo248 wrote:
I recently copied all of my important folders & files to an external drive -- everything under my user file. My documents, Music, Photos, etc. all backed up correctly. So I clean-installed mavericks.
Today I opened up my applications folder to get MS Office back, and the only thing in my applications folder is a folder named "Akami." That's it. My Microsoft Office Suite--powerpoint, word, excel--photoshop, dreamweaver, and MORE are all gone, and the only place I had them was on my mac.
First, why didn't they back up like everthing else did. Second, if I formatted my drive, is there ANY WAY to get these back? And no, I didn't time machine or anything else because I thought they were on my drive.
Thanks.
It didn't back up your applications because you backed up "everything under your user file". Applications for all users aren't in the Home directory, they're in the root of the hard drive. What you should have done was to clone your entire drive to an external.
If you had just formatted your drive and hadn't done anything else to it, you might get them back. But it sounds like you've already reinstalled OS X, so any chance of getting things back is extremely slim.
Sorry.

When is it time to do a clean install of Mac OS?

Hi!
I bought the first iMac early 2006 the same week Apple switched to Intel CPUs and the current laptop in february 2008. Everything was transferred with Time Machine meaning I have not done a clean install since 2006. My mother´s Mac Mini with a 1.83 GHz Core 2 Duo and 10.4.11 is very snappy. I have no problems whatsoever with my laptop, but sure wish it was as fast as my mother´s Mini considering I have a 7200 rpm HDD also.
Should I:
a; Upgrade to 10.6
b; Do a clean install of everything
c; Relax and take it easy
d; Other suggestions?

First off, there is no such thing as a clean install:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=607614
Secondly, be careful about what maintenance you do:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1772235
A CoreDuo will not be as fast as a Core2Duo. The first iMacs in 2006 were only CoreDuo.
There are some cases where you can get faster speed, in that your iMac can be upgraded to 2 GB of RAM, and the Mac Mini, unless it was a very recent one can only be upgraded to 1 GB of RAM.

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I publish test.swf and test.html to mydoc folder on my local computer. Mydoc folder also contains the test.flv that was imported to the flash to create the swf and html. Open any of them in the mydoc folder and they work fine, move the swf or html files to another folder and they work. Move the flv file,even keeping it with the other files, and they don't work. The main problem is that the swf will not work after uploading all to the same folder on the web server. Any help will be greatly apprecitated.

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Time machine full after clean install of snow leopard

I recently upgraded to Snow Leopard by doing a clean install. I just connected my external HD to backup Time Machine, and it's telling me the disk is full and there's not enough space to backup, even though it spent some time deleting files. I'm guessing that it's not deleting files from before I installed Snow Leopard? I'm not sure of the best way to manually clear the earlier backups. (in case it matters, my external HD is partitioned with Super Duper backups on one half, and TM on the other).
I tried looking at the TM troubleshooting tips, but wasn't sure of the best way to deal with this - rather safe than sorry!
Thanks for any advice.

The "proper way" is while in time machine, go to the specific backup you want to delete. Then click the gear shape or the settings on the menu bar. There is an option "delete backup".
When opening your time machine HD and open "Backups.backupdb" are there two machines appearing or just one? If there are two, go to the time machine icon in your doc and control click on the icon. Select the option "Browse Other Time Machine Disks" and select the older machine to access and/or delete backups.
I believe at times I've also just deleted the specific backups when accessing the time machine HD in the finder.

Snow Leopard install was a clean install or an Upgrade?

I was wondering if there is a way to find out if an installed version of Snow Leopard is from a clean install or from an upgrade from an earlier version. Is there an indication on the About Apple menu as to the type of install that was performed?
Thanks
John

baltwo wrote:
There won't be a Previous System folder because the SL installation process no longer includes the Archive and Install option.
See my reply above. It applies when doing a normal upgrade installation of Sno.
baltwo wrote:
There's also no Erase & Install option. All you get is install.
Sure there is an erase and install option. You have the option to erase and install. Just because there is no erase and install check box doesn't mean that there is no erase and install option.
If It was an upgrade install, that is on top of an existing installation or erased and installed and then migrated from a previous installation, then you >should note applications in /Applications that aren't shown in the install log. If you erased the boot volume and installed SL, then installed other apps, then >all of those should show up in the install log.
Good points, I think. I don't use the logs that much.

Clean Install VS Time Machine for "out of the box" performance

Hi all ^^
Just under a year a go I made the leap of PC to Mac and have never looked back, im super happy with my Mac however I have been experiancing a decrease in performance since Ive been using it, back when I was using a PC I clean installed the OS once a year and then proceeded to add my files back, thus restoring my PC to full performance.
Ive been reading around these forums looking at Time Machine backups, hoping to see 'how much' gets restored when you perform a recovery from time machine, and from what I have read is that everything gets restored. So my question is purely for some advice and clarification
"If I want to restore my Macbook to its "out of the box" performance, Is it viable for me to use a Time Machine back up?"
if not
"If Time Machine Back ups wont help restoring performance, Would it be possible to Clean Install and then extract purely the Files from my TM Back up?" I read another user had issues, the Mac recognised the files belonged to another mac and he couldent use them.
So I wont waffle on any furthur, but im looking for the easist way to clean install or restore performance to my Mac, a long term solution I can use each year
Please and Thank you
Em

Thankyou for your answer
Im quite a clean freak when it comes to my PC, I keep my desktop bare, things I dont use remain unloaded.etc
I think as I am without a Defrag or Disk Clean up tool I feel abit helpless to maintain optimal standards. I not very experianced with the in's and out's of computers but all I really want on my Mac are my Files, Applications and the OS, nothing more.
I appreciate your time and experiance, so ild ask instead: In your experiance is it worth performing a clean install? I have hadly any junk on my Mac, and from the tone of your post you beleive a program such as MacKeeper would be sufficent?
Futhurmore a clean install once a year isnt worth it? I depend alot on what people have told me, so I may have fallen victim to a rumour :S

How do you RE-INSTALL Leopard 10.5 over already installed LEOPARD upgraded?

I have an iMac computer that originally had Tiger installed. I did all the updates to Tiger and was ready for Leopard. I used "Super Duper" and cloned my hardrive before I installed the new Leopard (10.5 dvd) using th UPGRADE option. After installing Leopard (UPGRADE) and upgrading to 10.5.2 I felt I might get better results with either a "CLEAN INSTALL" or an "INSTALL & ARCHIVE." So, I put the LEOPARD 10.5 DVD back in my Mac, thinking the INSTALLER CHOICES of UPGRADE, ARCHIVE & INSTALL or CLEAN INSTALL would show up again and I could just ERASE this version of Leopard and do the CLEAN INSTALL or ARCHIVE & INSTALL and start over! Well when i put the DVD in the BIG X with the install and restart but not the INSTALL CHOICES? i tried 'OPTION" key hod down and "C" key hold down. what do I do? Thanks in advance for your support and help

baltwo wrote:
If you installed the Time Machine & Airport update, the install disk probably doesn't recognize the HD.
really?? I would find that very strange. Archive and install should definitely be possible anyway. At the screen where one sees the choice of a disk to install to, there should be an "Options" button. Clicking on it should bring up a screen with a choice of upgrade and install (I believe that's the default), archive and install, and erase and install. Choosing archive and install should allow one to proceed.

Need to A & I or do Clean Install - How to Save iLife?

Hello All,
Had some problems on the computer and I now need to perform A & I at a minimum, but since I have an external I figure I might as well just back up my files and once and for all perform a clean install (since I upgraded from Tiger to Leopard without doing a clean install).
Questions regarding this:
I assume I cannot just drag iLife apps onto the external and then drag them back? True?
If I need to reinstall them, how do I do so (I don't even remember if they came on a separate disc when I bought the computer or if they were integrated into the Tiger install disk?)
How about the iphoto library? Do I just copy over the iPhoto Library folder and then everything will work A-OK?
Thanks!

avsrock90 wrote:
I assume I cannot just drag iLife apps onto the external and then drag them back? True?
I think it's best to use the installer.
If I need to reinstall them, how do I do so (I don't even remember if they came on a separate disc when I bought the computer or if they were integrated into the Tiger install disk?)
The iLife package is on your 1st install disk that came with your Mac. Insert it while running Leopard and a window will pop up. Choose install bundled software. Then do a custom install of the package so you can choose what all you want put back on Leopard.
How about the iphoto library? Do I just copy over the iPhoto Library folder and then everything will work A-OK?
This will help you take care of the library.
iPhoto: How to move the iPhoto Library Folder to a new location

Firefox appears to be hijacked even after clean install.

Hello,
My sister has this weird problem on her computer and it was involved with Windows and Firefox. When she opens Firefox, her entire computer crashes down, shows a black desktop, and pulls up a BSOD (blue screen of death) the main error was CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION. Error code I believe was 0x0000004. Mysteriously, the minidump of that BSOD disappeared. I wondered that since this problem only happened when I opened firefox, I decided to clean install Firefox. I uninstalled Firefox with removal of personal data and customizations and installed a clean copy from Mozilla.org. Firefox is still unusuable. It doesn't cause the BSOD but it will not allow me to go to ANY URLS (initially, it showed me the "Firefox has been installed page" and another page that said "The address is not valid" any other URLS will not load if I hit enter or hit the go arrow key on the address bar) and the search box has no search engine at all! (icon is a blank file). I've tried reseting the program back to factory defaults. I've scanned for Malware on Malwarebytes Pro, GMER, TDSSKiller, and Hitman Pro. Every other program seems to work fine, at least I hope it does. My last resort is to reset this entire computer.

Try to boot the computer in Windows Safe mode with network support (press F8 on the boot screen) as a test to see if that helps.
You can use the MSConfig program or the Autoruns utility to see which software and services are getting started.
*http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx

How to transfer Messages history from Mavericks to Yosemite clean install

I would like to do a clean install of Yosemite on my MacBook, but retain all of my Messages history and attachments from my current Mavericks install. Is this possible? What files do I need to copy from the Mavericks install (before I wipe the HD) and where do I need to put them after I install Yosemite (cleanly)? Anything else I need to do after copying them?
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I managed to finally get mine to work, but not after a bit of trouble and losing new messages since my time machine back up (about a days worth since my backup replaced my current. I backed up and upgraded last night, and I figured out how to restore messages this morning, so anything in between that I got on my phone was lost. no big deal).
Much of the below is from other discussions, so I don't want to take credit for it, but wanted to make it easy for you, and there was one small change.
First make sure you can see hidden files by opening terminal and inputting: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES
QUIT YOUR MESSAGES APP
Replace the following files from your backup to your current clean install. Pretty much all the files should be in the same spot, except for one folder that I'll explain further below.
Same File path
/users/<name>/Library/Messages-------> /users/<name>/Library/Messages/ this folder should include 4 files:
chat.db
chat.db-shm
chat.db-wal
the folder "Attachments"
/users/<name>/Library/Preferences----> /users/<name>/Library/Preferencescopy any file that includes iChat or Messages in the .plist
Different File pathI am not sure if this matters, but it's something I noticed when I got a message in my clean install before trying to restore my history. In Yosemite, I noticed that that "Attachments" and "Archive" folder are both in /users/<name>/Library/Messages, whereas in Mavericks, the "Attachments" folder is in that file path, but the "Archive" folder is located in /users/<name>Library/Containers/com.apple.iChat/Data/Library/iMessages/Archive, and within this same folder there is a shortcut to the Attachments folder. (I'm not sure if this matters, but this worked for me). I hope I didn't confuse you there!
/users/<name>/Library/Containers/com.apple.iChat/Data/Library/Messages/Archive-------> /users/<name>/Library/Messages/
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When Moving To Leopard Please Do A Clean Install

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