When printing on a digital press, why are the colors different between INDD & PSD?

I've created the exact same CMYK mix in both InDesign and Photoshop. When printed on a digital press they are not the same color. Any ideas how this can be fixed/solved?

Sounds like the RIP treats raster and vector objects differently. see InDesignSecrets » Blog Archive » Eliminating YDB (Yucky Discolored Box) Syndrome for a discussion of how this affects transparency interactions, and how to work around it. I suspect you can cure it by adding transparency to the master page and using the custom flattener method.

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Non color managed programs can display the color only in the way your monitor displays it. Color managed programs simulate other outputs on your monitor. The only way to match the display in color managed and non color managed software is to turn off the color managed software. This will display the same color values with the same color in all programs on your monitor.
The purpose of the color management is to allow the viewer see the colors as intended (the way the creator sees them when creating the image). Different devices and media output the same color values differently resulting in different color. Therefore, when the viewer uses different device or media the colors if not color managed properly will look different or not as close as possible.
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Now, did they first send you a target file which you then printed on your particular printer using your intended paper and inks, then snail-mailed the print to them in California in order for them to make your custom printer profile for you, which they then in turn emailed to you? If that was not the case, you do not have a custom profile at all, but a meaningless stock one. Even if they used a printer model exactly like yours when they created the profile, it was not done on your particular unit and therefore is not valid.
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