When using "create outlines" on type, gradient goes wacky & outlines look strange (InDesign CS6)

Hi,
I'm working on a logo in InDesign CS6 where I'm trying to "create outlines" from type I've set so I can have some final artwork to hand over to a sign company. The type has a gradient applied, along with a white stroke added to the outside. When I "create outlines" of the font, the gradient mysteriously changes angle and the white outline around the type no longer connects correctly. Hard to describe, so have a look at the image below:
The goal is to have the blend and logo look like #1. So, my questions:
a) how do I "create outlines" of the type and also keep the gradient the same angle as #1? I can manually adjust this using the gradient tool, but this is inaccurate and kludgy.
b) how can I get the white outlines on the new, converted logo to look like 1 (nicely connected), rather than the mess in #2?
Many thanks in advance for your help and insight!
Kris

@Kris – For getting the outlines right after "Create Outlines" you need some additional steps to merge the overlapping "ogo" part of your logo to one path.
Maybe what you cannot do is getting the outlines totally right. That will depend of the number of inner forms. For that I recommend Adobe Illustrator.
What you can do in InDesign:
1. Release the compound path of all outlined characters
2. For some paths you have to change the direction of the path and do compound again
3. Then you can use path finder to add paths together
And: You'll need a new gradient with a different start/stop point.
Here some steps illustrating the problem:
(left the outlined text, right the "live" text)
1. Gradient applied to the "live" text is different from the converted outlines
(Outline at left is already postprocessed with the path finder)
Path situation immediately after the conversion.
Gradient newly applied with -90° (will not match the original)
Original gradient applied to outline (will not match original):
New gradient applied to match original:
Also look at the position of the outline; now "inner" instead of "middle".
As I already said, for things like that I'd rather use Adobe Illustrator…
Uwe

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bltext.get_line_containing
bltext.get_line_containing
bltext.get_lines_from_repository, p_text_type=CDINOT
bltext.get_line_containing
bltext.get_line_containing
bltext.get_lines_from_repository, p_text_type=CDINOT
bltext.get_line_containing
bltext.get_line_containing
HSU_CAPF.create_specification
HSU_CAPF.create_c_tabalias
HSU_CAPF.create_c_tabalias_all
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HSU_CAPF.create_aggregate_value
HSU_CAPF.create_aggregate_value
Activity aborted with ORACLE internal errors.
-6502 ORA-06502: PL/SQL: numeric or value error: character string buffer too small
What can I do about it???
Thanks in advance.
Menno Hoogsteen

Working on the same project as Menno, I had the time to look into the problem.
The problem is caused by the creation of the capi-function agregate_char_value in the packages hsu_capf. While creating this function the following code is executed:
add(' -- allowable values:');
add(' -- '||l_col_name_list);
This last statement causes the problem because this table is very big. L_col_name_list contains 2391 characters wich is 393 characters to long. So i changed this code into:
add(' -- allowable values:');
add(' -- '||substr(l_col_name_list,1,1990));
add(' -- '||substr(l_col_name_list,1990));
and everything works fine. Perhaps something for a patch?
Kind regards,
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