When / where to render - workflow question.
Hello.
I did try a couple of searches but did not seem to hit what I am looking for.
I am a relativly new convert to Premiere Pro, came over from the Sony world.
Purchased a EVGA GTX560 last week (used to be radeon based) and I am in awe. Loving things so far.
Anyway, the last few projects I did were all web based, so no need to burn actual media. Just finished a project and exported it to Encore. Stumbled through Encore and managed to get a simple Menu based BD ready to burn. Then I selected build and it ran and ran and ran. It was making progress, just very slowly.
So my question, what is the typical "best practices" worklow.
Do I need to render it from Premiere first ? It seems to render much faster there, then just import the rendered file into Encore ? Or am I missing some sort of setting in Encore that will make it render as fast as in Premiere Pro ?
Some details on the project.
All HD, some from a HF20 (1080i(30P/60i)) and some from a Canon T3i, DSLR, 1080 30p. I have a couple of AE comps in the timeline but 80% is straight Premiere edits, color correction, transitions, etc. Total length is 42 minutes.
Thanks.
BluRay formats http://forums.adobe.com/thread/421178?tstart=0
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Hello all,
I’ve been searching many forums for the better part of a day trying to get some workflow questions sorted. I’m experiencing (very) slow export times, and mediocre playback for a machine that should be screaming fast.
Here is what I’m working with:
2014 Mac Pro
-2.7 GHz 12-core intel xeon E5
-64GB Ram
-Dual AMD FirePro D700 6GB
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Editing all footage off 96TB Raid 6 mini-sas server (getting about 1100mbs read/write rate according to AJA system test) which is faster than any Thunderbolt/TB2 drive array I have.
Media I work with is footage from the RED Epic (normally 5K) as well as DSLR footage from the 5d.
Software:
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-Magic Bullet Looks 2.5.2
My question(s) pertains to RED post-pro workflow in combination with third party plug-ins and the different approaches to make it more efficient.
Right now, majority of the clients need a 1080p HD master, and they are generally anywhere from 2-8 minutes (usually). So my sequence settings are as follows:
Video:
Editing Mode: RED Cinema
Size: 1920 x 1080
Audio: 48Hz
Video Previews
Preview File Format: I-Frame Only MPEG
Codec: MPEG I-Frame
1920x1080
Maximum Bit Depth unchecked
Maximum Render Quality unchecked
Composite in Linear Color checked
Export Settings
H.264
1920x1080
VBR 1 pass
Target Bitrate 12mbs
Max bitrate 12mbs
Maximum render quality/depth/previews unchecked
Issues I have:
-Playback is fine at 1/2 or even full, but once effects (especially magic bullet looks) start to go on the clips, it’s very choppy and has difficult playback at 1/4
-Export times (especially with magic bullet looks) will take the better part of 1-4 hours for a video that is 3-6 minutes long. This doesn’t seem like it should be the case for a maxed out MacPro
So my questions are:
Do these seem like the right sequence/export settings for mastering at 1080p? If not, what would you suggest?
Would using offline editing help at all?
Do you place your effects on adjustment layers?
Is there anyway to improve export settings when using an array of filters?
Have you stopped using third party plugins for their inefficiency in unreliability and switched to more integrated applications like SpeedGrade?
Is there any other tweaks that you would suggest for RED workflow with PrPro?
Should I consider switching to FCPX or (besides the iMovie-likeness) does it carry problems of its own?Hi This Is Ironclad,
thisisironclad wrote:
Hello all,
I’ve been searching many forums for the better part of a day trying to get some workflow questions sorted. I’m experiencing (very) slow export times, and mediocre playback for a machine that should be screaming fast.
The biggest issue is that most people have is that updating OS X causes certain folders to be set to Read Only. See this blog post: Premiere Pro CC, CC 2014, or 2014.1 freezing on startup or crashing while working (Mac OS X 10.9, and later).
thisisironclad wrote:
Hello all,
I’ve been searching many forums for the better part of a day trying to get some workflow questions sorted. I’m experiencing (very) slow export times, and mediocre playback for a machine that should be screaming fast.
Here is what I’m working with:
2014 Mac Pro
-2.7 GHz 12-core intel xeon E5
-64GB Ram
-Dual AMD FirePro D700 6GB
-1TB Flash Storage
It's a nice base system. How about an additional speedy disk for media cache files. You also did not mention which version of OS X you are running.
thisisironclad wrote:
Software:
-Magic Bullet Looks 2.5.2
The Red Giant website does not indicate that this software is yet updated to work with Premiere Pro CC 2014.1 (8.1). Proceed with caution here.
thisisironclad wrote:
Issues I have:
-Playback is fine at 1/2 or even full, but once effects (especially magic bullet looks) start to go on the clips, it’s very choppy and has difficult playback at 1/4
I would not use this plug-in until you get the OK from the manufacturer.
thisisironclad wrote:
-Export times (especially with magic bullet looks) will take the better part of 1-4 hours for a video that is 3-6 minutes long. This doesn’t seem like it should be the case for a maxed out MacPro
Again, I suspect your plug-in.
Keep in mind that exports are largely CPU based but you can make sure that GPU acceleration is enabled for AME at the bottom of the Queue panel.
thisisironclad wrote:
So my questions are:
Do these seem like the right sequence/export settings for mastering at 1080p? If not, what would you suggest?
It's OK.
thisisironclad wrote:
Would using offline editing help at all?
No need when you should be able to edit natively. Relinking might also be an issue.
thisisironclad wrote:
Do you place your effects on adjustment layers?
That's one way you can do it with the benefit of being more organized.
thisisironclad wrote:
Have you stopped using third party plugins for their inefficiency in unreliability and switched to more integrated applications like SpeedGrade?
I do. Of course, that's a preference.
thisisironclad wrote:
Is there any other tweaks that you would suggest for RED workflow with PrPro?
Try the following:
Sign out from Creative Cloud, restart Premiere Pro, then sign in
Update any GPU drivers
Trash preferences
Ensure Adobe preference files are set to read/write(Hopefully you checked this out already)
Delete media cache
Remove plug-ins
If you have AMD GPUs, make sure CUDA is not installed
Repair permissions
Disconnect any third party hardware
If you have a CUDA GPU, ensure that the Mercury Playback Engine is set to CUDA, not OpenCLYou have AMD GPUs.
Disable App Nap
Reboot
thisisironclad wrote:
Should I consider switching to FCPX or (besides the iMovie-likeness) does it carry problems of its own?
I really shouldn't answer that question.
Hope this helps.
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Ok I too, like many others here, am new to the Mac (thanks to Apple's I'm a Mac, I'm a PC ads that my wife couldn't get enough of). I have done some searching around and I see that there are quite a few iMovie workflow questions out there. I have not quite found what I am looking for however, so I thought I would make my first post tonight. So here it goes...
I have 3 different ways I capture video:
1. Canon Vixia HF10 (HD)
2. Canon Powershot (SD)
3. Blackberry Storm (SD...I know it isn't a good phone)
I record everything to SD cards. I am wanting to know the best way to store my raw video for editing at any time. Do I copy the AVCHD file structure (for the Vixia) and .avi files (for the other non HD) to my hdd, or do I just import into iMovie '09 and let it reside there, or both? I noticed that iMovie had an archival option (which appears to just copy the AVCHD structure to my hdd), which is why I ask. I want to always keep my raw video in case I decide to go back later and create a new video.
After I have the raw video archived, I would like to know the best way to use iMovie. Depending on where I end up storing the raw video, should I keep the imported video in iMovie once I am finished with a project, and then reimport it at a later date if need be? Or, do I leave it in iMovie as events? I guess this all rely depends on the first question...where do I store the raw video for archival purposes...
Finally, when exporting my iMovie project, should I store that in more of a, pardon the Windows reference, "My Videos" folder with a original size, web optimized size, and ipod optimized size? Thus, keeping the actual exported version of the project separate from the raw video?
I hope I have asked the right questions here. I appreciate any and all help I can get!
RonWelcome Ron to the iMovie boards..
very interesting : 'switchers' care sooo much for 'storage strategies' ..
the by Apple intended workflow/concept for iApps is:
any 'photocam' related material (still or movin') comes-in via iPhoto, and is stored in an iP Library (=you can tell iP to create 2/many Libs, if you prefer to organize manually....)
any 'camcorder' related material HAS to be imported by iM - why? because, iM has some internal routines to make such material editable (codecs, thumnails, stuff....). the same material as 'file by Finder' does not import.. in most cases!
storage..
iP stores in its Library (local/internal HDD and/or ext. HDD)
iM stores in Events (local/internal HDD and/or ext. HDD)
to make Projects/Albums accessible to any iApp, you should keep your fingers off that structure.
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• use iApps as intended.
• use iP for cameras, it stores 'raws' (the avi too)
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For those of you that have to export batches of pictures in multiple different sizes (with different levels of sharpening), what is your workflow? I could use some photoshop droplets/actions after Aperture export but I was hoping there was a way to avoid the extra step. Am I overlooking an export feature? The BorderFX plug-in looks like the only other option.
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Bear in mind that there seem to be two separate issues going on here - sharpening adjustments not being applied on export, and resizing.
As far as resizing is concerned, Aperture appears to use something roughly equivalent to Photoshop's Bicubic Sharper setting. Because of this I've never had much problem with Aperture's exports when used for the web, but obviously everyone's taste for sharpening differs which is why an option for output sharpening would be good.
Sharpening adjustments not being applied on export is a separate issue and should be reported via the feedback form ASAP by everyone who is experiencing the bug.
Now printing is another animal - I wouldn't print directly from RAW in aperture either if I'm printing small. Again, LR beats Aperture here as well since they include output sharpening for print.
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Ian -
Hello All,
I have a couple of seemingly simple questions:
I have a session bean method with a void return type, and I have an EJB
Control for the session bean.
I can invoke this method only with a Control Send node, since a Control Send
and Return node does not see
this method, and when I drag the method from the EJB Control and drop it
onto a Control Send and Return
node, it gets converted to a Control Send node.
My questions is:
1. Is the method invoked synchronouly, meaning, does it wait until the
actual EJB method returns, or is
it just put into a message buffer?
2. Is this method participating in the implicit transaction the previous
(Control Send and Return) node is part of?
3. If the answer to either of the following two questions is no, what can I
do, to ensure the synchronous invocation and the participation in the
implicit transaction?
A fourth question:
When I start a workflow with a Client Request and Return node, and I have a
couple of
synchronous invocation nodes after the Client Request node, to a Worklist
Control and a
Session EJB, they form an implicit transaction before the Client Return
node.
If I throw an exception in any of these nodes, and don't catch the
exception, what happens?
1. The workflow aborts, all method calls on the previous nodes are rolled
back.
2. The method calls on the previous nodes are rolled back, the workflow does
not abort.
Which one? If the second, what can I do with that workflow?
A fifth question:
What exactly happens in the following case:
My workflow processing is blocking (waiting for, does not matter that
actively or passively) at a Control Receive node waiting for a callback.
What happens if an invocation of a Client Request related method or a
callback on another Control or another callback no the same Control comes
in?
1. Will it be buffered in a Message Buffer and be retrievable when the
processing leads to a place
where it will be read from the buffer (appropriate node for the method call,
or event choice containing the appropriate call) and calling process
returns?
2. Calling process will block until the method call can be processed at a
similar node?
3. Will it be silently dropped?
4. Will an exception be thrown in the calling process? If yes, what
Exception?
5. Will something weird happen, and the receiving process jump to some
totally improper place in the execution
of the workflow?
Thanks for the (hopefully fast) answers in advance,
Regards,
Robert VargaHello Steven,
Some of my questions was answered in the documentation in the web service
areas. Most of them were not.
When here I state that something is not covered in the documentation, that
means that I was not able to find it stated clearly for the thing I was
searching at. It may be cleared in other places of the documentation
regarding a similar thing. It may also be possible that I was simply
overlooked it, after days of browsing the documentation. I would quite
happily accept it if someone just bumped my nose into the particular place
in the docs that answered these questions mentioned here.
So let me just explain what I did not find in the documentation:
Unfortunately the documentation is more geared to a web-service viewpoint,
which, I agree, has much common with business processes (jpd files), but the
business process design view also contains some differences to a normal .jws
web-service.
The biggest difference is, that when you design a .jpd, you assume to have
something that behaves like an instruction pointer. That is supposed to keep
track which stateful node the processing is currently blocked at.
The .jws web-services do not have this in the design view.
Now the fourth and fifth question was specifically about the behaviour and
existence of this instruction pointer-like behaviour, and these questions
were not answered in the documentation at all.
It is nowhere specified what happens to a business process instance if it
throws an exception, and it has no exception paths handling that exception.
I assume that it remains in the state that it was in before the invocation
that triggered the operations that resulted in the exception thrown.
It is also not covered in the documentation whether this instruction pointer
is really there and how it exactly behaves. The only thing in the
documentation which I was able to find was a side note, that if a message
buffer is in place, it is not guaranteed, that the retrieval of the
invocations from the message buffer will be in the order of the invocations
themselves. It is even a bit vague, whether message buffers are per method
or per jws/jpd instance.
But it is definitely not covered, what happens in case of an out-of-order
invocation to a business process. In case of a jws, it is clear that you are
supposed to handle if an invocation comes, that is not supposed to come at
all.
But in case of a business process (jpd), it is not covered in the docs, what
would happen with the invocation, what would happen with the calling
process, and what would happen with the called process. And this is
important information for being able to plan for unexpected things, or even
expected things, for example when a callback is timed out, but it comes in
later, when we are blocking at a different control, or even at the same
control, but in a different iteration.
It is also not clearly covered, if and if yes, how one can create a
syncronous callback, and what will be in the same transaction with the
callback invocation (only the Control Receive node, receiving the callback,
or the following nodes as well?). Is disabling the message-buffer on the
Client Response node enough?
It is possibly covered somewhere what the case is with the void EJB methods,
but I was not able to find it at all. EJB method invocations are supposed to
be synchronous, but void methods are callable upon with Control Send only
which is asynchronous as far as I was able to determine. I was not able to
ascertain what is the real case, and neither was I able to find a properly
documented way to ensure synchronous invocation to a void method on an EJB
control (which explicitely states that this happens).
Regards,
Robert Varga
"Steven Ostrowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I'm pretty sure the answer to each of these questions is in the WLI
documentation.
There is a section on how to enable message buffers to accomplish
exactly what you are talking about. There is also a section on what
creates an implicit transaction and what does not. I believe control
sends start one, but you should reference the docs.
Robert Varga wrote:
Hello All,
I have a couple of seemingly simple questions:
I have a session bean method with a void return type, and I have an EJB
Control for the session bean.
I can invoke this method only with a Control Send node, since a Control
Send
and Return node does not see
this method, and when I drag the method from the EJB Control and drop it
onto a Control Send and Return
node, it gets converted to a Control Send node.
My questions is:
1. Is the method invoked synchronouly, meaning, does it wait until the
actual EJB method returns, or is
it just put into a message buffer?
2. Is this method participating in the implicit transaction the previous
(Control Send and Return) node is part of?
3. If the answer to either of the following two questions is no, whatcan I
do, to ensure the synchronous invocation and the participation in the
implicit transaction?
A fourth question:
When I start a workflow with a Client Request and Return node, and Ihave a
couple of
synchronous invocation nodes after the Client Request node, to aWorklist
Control and a
Session EJB, they form an implicit transaction before the Client Return
node.
If I throw an exception in any of these nodes, and don't catch the
exception, what happens?
1. The workflow aborts, all method calls on the previous nodes arerolled
back.
2. The method calls on the previous nodes are rolled back, the workflowdoes
not abort.
Which one? If the second, what can I do with that workflow?
A fifth question:
What exactly happens in the following case:
My workflow processing is blocking (waiting for, does not matter that
actively or passively) at a Control Receive node waiting for a callback.
What happens if an invocation of a Client Request related method or a
callback on another Control or another callback no the same Controlcomes
in?
1. Will it be buffered in a Message Buffer and be retrievable when the
processing leads to a place
where it will be read from the buffer (appropriate node for the methodcall,
or event choice containing the appropriate call) and calling process
returns?
2. Calling process will block until the method call can be processed ata
similar node?
3. Will it be silently dropped?
4. Will an exception be thrown in the calling process? If yes, what
Exception?
5. Will something weird happen, and the receiving process jump to some
totally improper place in the execution
of the workflow?
Thanks for the (hopefully fast) answers in advance,
Regards,
Robert Varga -
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Dump on screen when configuring Process controlled workflow
Hi Experts,
I am facing 1 problem in SAP SRM 7 ehp1. I am configuring Process controlled workflow. Previous workflow settings was Application controlled workflow as its been upgraded from SRM 5. If i run a RFX (BUS2200) cycle in application controlled workflow environment, it works flawlessly.
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Method: /SAPSRM/IF_PDO_META_CONSUMER~GET_ACTION_METADATA of program /SAPSRM/CL_PDO_META_BO_RFQ====CP
Method: /SAPSRM/IF_PDO_META_CONSUMER~GET_ACTION_METADATA of program /SAPSRM/CL_PDO_META_BO_RFQ_ADVCP
Method: /SAPSRM/IF_PDO_META_CONSUMER~GET_ACTION_METADATA of program /SAPSRM/CL_PDO_META_HANDLER===CP
Method: UPDATE_ACTIONS of program /SAPSRM/CL_CH_WD_MAP_IDENT====CP
Method: /SAPSRM/IF_CLL_MAPPER~REFRESH of program /SAPSRM/CL_CH_WD_MAP_IDENT====CP
Method: /SAPSRM/IF_CLL_MAPPER~REFRESH of program /SAPSRM/CL_CH_WD_IDEN_MAP_RFQ=CP
Method: OVERRIDE_LEAVE_INIT_SCREEN of program /SAPSRM/CL_FPM_OVRIDE_OIF=====CP
& when i check in st22. I get the dump as:
Category ABAP Programming Error
Runtime Errors DATREF_NOT_ASSIGNED
ABAP Program /SAPSRM/CL_PDO_DYN_MDA_WF_ADJ=CP
Application Component SRM-EBP-PD
Date and Time 17.12.2011 15:46:56
and get dump at:
1 method PARTICIPATING_IN_ACTIVE_WF.
2 " this method returns ABAP_TRUE if the logon user has an active work item,
3 " i.e. he participates in an active approval workflow process.
4
5 DATA lv_curr_workitem_id TYPE /sapsrm/wf_workitem_id.
6 DATA lr_process_info TYPE ref to /SAPSRM/S_PDO_WF_PROCESS_INFO.
7
8 " the default:
9 rv_participates_in_active_wf = abap_false.
10
11 " The scenario is not valid for application-controlled workflow:
12 " Any agents who may edit the document (approver and requester)
13 " enter "Edit" mode right-away. No special handling possible.
14 lr_process_info = io_apf_md_context->get_process_info_ref( ).
>>> IF lr_process_info->wf_version NE /sapsrm/if_wf_process_c=>GC_APF_VERSION_0200.
16 return.
17 endif.
18
19 " check if a valid workitem exists
20 lv_curr_workitem_id = io_apf_md_context->get_workitem_id( ).
21 IF lv_curr_workitem_id IS INITIAL.
22 RETURN.
23 ENDIF.
the only configuration I change in the system is I changed the workflow framework to process controlled workflow.
Kindly help.
Thanks
AnandHello Anand,
As per standard SAP recommendations the application-controlled workflow framework is only intended to be used if you are upgrading from SAP SRM 5.0 or earlier and you need to continue using your existing work-flows.
The default workflow framework setting is the process-controlled workflow from SRM 6.0 on-wards and the user will be provided a option to switch to the application-controlled workflow framework. The option to switch to process-controlled workflows is available only after you have once switched to application-controlled work flows but there will be a big caution that " If you switch from the application-controlled workflow framework to the process-controlled workflow framework; once a process-controlled workflow has been run, it is not supported that you switch back to application-controlled work-flows".
As per the details given i got a feel that we have tried executing the scenario by switching between application and process controlled workflow and hence the system have become inconsistent and its dumping.
I suggest you to raise a OSS ticket to SAP to resolve the issue.
Best Regards,
Rahul -
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