Whenever I enter a loop point, menu background disappears

I've tried all sorts of combinations of menu duration/hold forever/animate buttons with different time lengths..but no matter what, if I enter a time for Loop Point, the background of my menu disappears.
I got it working once by deleting the menu and redoing everything, but now that doesnt work. Please help! All I'm trying to do is have a chapter menu with each chapter showing a video preview about 5 seconds long. I'm using one of the standard menus provided by Encore.
Does anyone know how to get it to work properly?
I'm using Encore CS4

Maybe someone can educate both of us on this.
I don't recall where I formed the belief, but I generally do not mix a motion background and animate buttons. I use a still background with animate buttons. If I wanted to mix a motion background and animate buttons, I'd do it all in After Effects rather than using Encore for the animate buttons. (You can in fact mix a motion background and animate buttons in Encore, but it does odd things like the one you are describing.)
I believe the "loop point" refers to the motion background and not animate buttons alone. So when you set a loop point without a motion asset, you see black behind your buttons. You can work around this by making a video of your still menu background, and selecting that as your motion asset.
All I see in the help document regarding loop point is for motion menus.

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Has Encore 5.1 the same problem with BR loop point menus?

Hi everyone,
just wanna know if any of you has tested the new CS5.5.
Has Adobe solved the black video "flashes" during a loop point menu?
Do we have to wait for the En5.5?
Thanks in advance
Ciao
Giorgio

The problem still exists in 5.1

Can you loop video forever as a menu background, but audio only once?

I'm wanting to make a menu that has a video background and plays music as soon as the DVD starts up, but I want the music to stop after it plays through twice and the video to continue to loop.
I know I could do this by setting a loop point, but I don't want the user to have to sit and wait the first time the music plays before they can select a button.
Is there a way to do this?

ram8kumar wrote:
There are mainly two workflows to set the looping in a motion menu :
1. If you want to loop the entire video and audio, then there are two ways to do this:
a) In the motion tab of the menus properties, set the loop point to 00:00:00:00 and the loop# to the number of times you want the looping.
b) Go to the Specify Link dialog box to set the End action of the menu, select the menu as the target link and check the 'Set to loop point' checkbox there.
2. If you want to loop the video from a specific point in the time, then in the motion tab of the menu, set the loop point to the exact time of the video you want to stat the looping from and set the loop # to number of times you want the looping.
Thanks for the reply, but I don't think either of your solutions will achieve the result I'm wanting. I want to loop the AUDIO just once (it plays two times after the menu comes up), but I want the VIDEO background to continue to loop forever. I also want the user to be able to make a menu selection at any time, including right when the menu first appears.
If I set a loop point, it makes the menu unusable until that loop point is reached the first time.
I was thinking I could do this with two menus. The first menu would have the audio and video and only loop one time, then its end action would send it to another menu that looks exactly like the first, but only has the video looping on it. The only problem with this solution is that if the user moves their selection to something other than the default button, it will jump back to the default button when it goes to the second menu (or whatever button the "end action" is set to on the first menu).
Would there be a way to have the first menu jump to the identical second menu and stay on whatever button the user currently has highlighted?
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Anyone ever get this message when building a DVD?
http://www.reflexive-cinematics.com/miscimages/errormessage.jpg
I keep getting this damn messages with Every adobe application. I was having tons of issues with encore 1.0 so I upgraded and bought 2.0. Now I'm having that error message.
Does anyone know what the problem is? And by the way, I only get that message on the main menu when it tries to loop. The menu background video is 1:00:00 ( one minute ) and the loop point is 00:07:00 ( seven seconds ) with loop amount set to forever. I've changed it to other stuff to see, but I still get the message.
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No.
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I'm hoping somebody can help me...
I've created a menu that has a video clip background, and set a loop point about 4 seconds in (after everything flies in, and the image remains static).
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Is it possible to hide the buttons on a motion menu til AFTER the loop point?
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JF:
I add the button graphics into my background movie at the loop point. Then, I create an overlay file in Photoshop and add it to the menu? It will then only activate at the loop point, which works well since that's where the text would appear in the movie?
That's right!
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