Where is the "Archive" file from "Archive and install"?

I did an Archive and install when I upgraded to 10.5. I also made a bootable clone (external HD) of my Tiger.
Now, I'd like to know where the Archive file is? And is it ok to delete?
Need to free space on my internal HD.
Thanks

Open the folder Previous Systems on your hard disk, go through the highest numbered or most recent folder for items you want to keep; once done, throw it away and empty the Trash.
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Files missing from library after archive and install

Hi forum folk
any help you could give would be much appreciated.
I can't seem to verify my permissions on HD. I have run disk utility both from finder and from my OSX startup disk and consistently get the error message "Disk Utility has lost its connection with the Disk Management Tool and cannot continue." I then reinstalled the operating system all together making sure to archive and install as well as archive previous network and preference settings. This means I am running 10.3.4 at the moment (and I can't verify any of the software updates at the moment). After reinstalling I still cannot verify my permissions, so now I am trying to back up all my files so that I can reinstall the OSX again, erase everything, and start from scratch. But I'm running into some very strange problems while doing this. select files are missing from ~/library. there is no Safari file, for example. I tried looking in HD/previous systems/library where my library files were saved before I reinstalled the operating system but there is no such folder in there either. this means all of my bookmarks are gone. additionally, under library/preferences (in both the old and new library folders) there is no file named com.apple.itunes.plst. so all of my itunes playlists are gone as well. these are the only missing files I have found thus far and i can't explain why they selectively would not have been saved after the archive and install. Everything else seems to be intact. Any ideas?
thanks
jb
powerbookG4 Mac OS X (10.3.9) running 10.3.4 at the moment - can't verify permissions on 10.3.9

jbeep:
my HD has a capacity of 8.85 GB available. When I reinstalled panther I had little more than 3 GB available (I deleted a bunch of unneeded things since then)
Thanks for this update. What is the total formatted capacity of your HDD? I ask because I suspected that you might be cutting it pretty close. The rule of thumb is that you should have 10-15% of your total capacity available as free space. My personal rule is 15%-20%. This allows for more efficient perfomrance of OS X.
I am in the process of backing up everything on my seagate combo USB 2.0/firewire 200 GB external (I am using the firewire cord)
Having an up-to-date backup is one of the primary rules, often observed more in the breach than not. Since you have an HDD that supports Firewire, I suggest that you make a bootable clone of your entire HDD using SuperDuper. You can then use this backup as an emergency boot drive. However, it must be Firewire, as PPC Macs don't boot from USB devices.
I also have heard that it is advisable to reinstall the OS "every now and again" and I hadn't done this for at least two years. was I ill-advised?
Most experienced Mac users never re-install, except under dire circumstances. Since installing my new HDD in this computer I have never re-installed. Re-installation is the utlimate intrusive measure, and it exposes one to all kinds of issues, from lost data, to flawed installaton, to installations that fail midstream. Re-installation is not an effective maintenace procedure. Here are some helpful links in terms of maintenance:
Mac OS X 10.3/10.4: System maintenance
Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance
Maintaining OS X.
I'm going to restart now and try and verify my permissions again using the procedure on the above link. I'll let you know what happens.
Instead of verifying permissions, just go ahead and Repair Disk Permissions. Verifying permissions does nothing, and wastes your time, as it is difficult to tell whether you need to repair, and you have to repair anyway.
Do post back with an update of your progress and any further questions or comments.
Good luck.
cornelius
Message was edited by: cornelius

Where to find after "Archive and Install"

Hi everyone. I recently installed Leopard onto my Macbook. During the process, I used the archive and install feature to save all of my old data and files. Right now everything is located in the "Previous System" folder on my hard drive. I am trying to find my iCal information, but don't know where it's located. Does anyone know?
I didn't backup any of my calendars. I didn't think I would have to since all the information should already be saved.

aimili,
If you actually accomplished an Archive and Install, you should be able to open iCal and the previous calendar information will populate your upgraded iCal. What calendar information is displayed in iCal when you open the application?
If your old calendars are not displayed you should be able to find your previous information in folders named something like 4A1DC586-14EC-4D42-B659-BEBA31968385.calendar in the Users/yourusername/Library/Application Support/iCal/Sources Folder of your previous system folder. There will be as many of these folders as you had calendars on the previous system, but they will have different alpha numeric names on your computer than the example which I just gave you.
Open these oddly named folders and you will find the corestorage.ics files containing your former calendars.
Use iCal to import the corestorage files by using the iCal>File>Import... menu command to navigate to and import the appropriate corestorage.ics file for each of your calendars.
Did you ever use .Mac? If so, you may also have calendar information that can be retrieved from that service.
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Aftewr Archive and Install of Leopard - how to recover files?

After a long and frustrating day installing Leopard on my MacBook Pro (five months old), I finally have it up and running but don't know how I should recover settings and documents from my archived files. As per Apple's advice, I did the archive and install without preserving settings.
Actually, documents are fairly straightforeward, but what about Entourage data (emails, addresses, etc.)?
Also, will applications like Photoshop, Lightroom, etc. need to be reinstalled?
Please advise.
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Having left my French in high school, I googled, and then read your description. That is the "Keychains" folder. Keychain Access is the program that manages the keychains, which store all of your passwords.
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The Finder and the Core Services of the OS are in the /System/Library/ folder. The CoreServices folder has just that, including the Finder and Dock, which are the apps that drive most of what you see. Both of those are just apps, so you can view their contents and see what localizations they have. I searched through them for "Trousseau de clefs" but could not find it. In the /System/Library folder are two other promising folders, "Resources" and "SystemFolderLocalizations." Both have .lproj folders with some translations.
Besides just googling for French localizations on Mac OS X, try reading about Localizations at the Apple Developer Connection.
As where I've learned all of this: Mostly here on these discussions and MacOSXHints and MacFixIt and The X Lab. I've also found info on personal blogs by googling for an issue along with "Mac OS X" or "Tiger" or "Leopard."

Lost files after doing Archive and Install

After I did Archive and Install I went to the home screen and all my files were gone. Where are they save? I'm not talking about my applications, I'm talking about documents and iTunes music,etc.
Please help.

I assume you did not check the option to preserve users and network settings when you did the Archive and Install. You will find everything in the Previous System Folder.
See How to get files from a previous home directory after Archive and Install.

I'm a Pro Tools user, who just did an "Archive and Install" installation of 10.5.8 over my 10.4.11 on my 2 Ghz G5, now Pro Tools won't launch. I checked the extensions folder and sure enough, the digidesign extensions were left behind. Can I revert back

I'm a Pro Tools user, who just did an "Archive and Install" installation of 10.5.8 over my 10.4.11 on my 2 Ghz G5, now Pro Tools won't launch. I checked the extensions folder and sure enough, the digidesign extensions were left behind. Can I revert back to the "Archive" of my 10.4.11 System from the "Previous Systems" folder? If not, what's the point of creating the "archive"?

Did you select "Preserve User Settings"?
Archive and Install installation automatically moves existing system files to a folder named Previous System, then installs Mac OS X again. (See tip 3.) You cannot start up your computer using a Previous System folder, nor can you "re-bless" the Previous System folder. (See tip 1.)
You can choose to preserve your user and network settings before installing. This option automatically moves existing users, Home directories, and network settings. This also skips the Setup Assistant after installation.
Note: Because the "Preserve user and network settings" option moves, not copies, existing users, Home directories, and network settings, from the Previous Systems folder to the newly installed System, these items will not exist in the Previous Systems folder after the Archive and Install is complete.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1710
Read this:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2196
BTW, it is never recommended to do a major OS change without having a full, bootable backup.

Archive and Install from external DVDROM?

My Dvd-rom is broken so I bought an external optical drive. Lately, my software (such as Word and Powerpoint), have not been opening correctly. Apple Support suggested that I do an Archive and Install.
Will I be able to do this from an external optical drive?
Thanks,
Danielle

Yes, as long as the external drive is bootable. Insert the installer DVD into the external drive then restart the computer. After the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the icon for the external DVD then click on the downward pointing arrow button. The computer should boot from the DVD. Follow these instructions for the Archive and Install:
How to Perform an Archive and Install
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

Archive and install error lost files

My Powerbook G4 wouldn't boot up, when restarted it got stuck on the apple screen. I didn't have my install disks, however had an old install disk that came with an ibook G4. I inserted the disk, and the requirements read an apple computer with a G3 G4 or G5 processor. I ran the archive and install. A message came up at the end of the installation saying there was an error, however the computer started up on reboot. The problem is that the computer looks to be wiped out, the only thing on the desktop is the hard drive icon. When I went to get info on the hard drive the drive is almost full, so the information is still there. My applications are still in the application folder, however none of them will boot. My documents and music are all in the previous system folder. When a document was opened from the previous system folder it launched, and now word will launch from the dock. I tried to mount an external hard drive to back up all the files in order to run a erase and install, however the hard drive wouldn't mount. Any ideas?

Back up your personal files from the Previous System Folder. You will need to erase the drive and reinstall OS X. However, you cannot use an installer disc for a different Mac model as these original installer discs are machine dependent. You need either a retail OS X installer for a version that will boot the computer or the original discs that came with the computer.
I suggest doing the following before installing OS X:
Extended Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder. If you need to reformat your startup volume, then you must boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger or Leopard.)
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID (only required for Intel Macs) then click on the OK button. Set the number of partitions from the dropdown menu (use 1 partition unless you wish to make more.) Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the volume(s) mount on the Desktop.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
Steps 4-6 are optional but should be used on a drive that has never been formatted before, if the format type is not Mac OS Extended, if the partition scheme has been changed, or if a different operating system (not OS X) has been installed on the drive.

How do I use archive and install to restore my CD drive?

I have a 2.66 GHz MacPro with current leopard software. My extended warranty just ran out. Before it ran out I began having problems with my CD drive in that some CD's or DVD's will be recognized while others' will not open. After talking extensively to Apple, they told me to do an archive and install with the original installation discs. I've been putting this off (even allowing the warranty to expire) because I'm paranoid that I'm going to lose precious data even though I have a current Time Machine backup.
So my question is do I just do the archive and install and hope for the best? Will I then have to upgrade back to the current version? I remember doing an archive and install a couple of times before to upgrade OS's and a few things didn't work until they were tweaked - lost code numbers, some Adobe products, etc.
Or is there a CD/DVD drive 'package' on the OSX install CD? Could I just reload this? If so can anyone tell me where to look? I would love to do this because everything else is working perfectly and I don't want to mess things up.
Note: I'm sure it's a software thing and not hardware related after consulting with Apple.
Thanks for the help,
Lou

How to Perform an Archive and Install
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
1. Be sure to use Disk Utility first to repair the disk before performing the Archive and Install.
Repairing the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then quit DU and return to the installer.
2. Do not proceed with an Archive and Install if DU reports errors it cannot fix. In that case use Disk Warrior and/or TechTool Pro to repair the hard drive. If neither can repair the drive, then you will have to erase the drive and reinstall from scratch.
3. Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When you reach the screen to select a destination drive click once on the destination drive then click on the Option button. Select the Archive and Install option. You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
4. Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
5. After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
6. You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update.

I did and Archive and Install on MBP with 10.4.11...now what?

I recently performed an "Archive and Install" on my MBP that was having odd random shutdowns (not battery related). Just prior to this I used DiskWarrior 4.0 to fix errors to try to possibly cut down on the shutoffs. All it did was f**k up my machine so bad that as soon as the grey screen and apple logo came up, it was like this grey curtain went down and an "on/off" icon came up saying I had to restart. I was never able to boot my machine off my hard drive again until i did the archive and install. Everything seems fine now.
My question is, I want to get the "old system" folder off my HD since it's taking up a lot of room. how do I know what files are critical and what ones aren't? I copied over my printers folder but all my other data seems to either be where it was before or it got moved over during the archive and install.
Any help on what i HAVE to save before i trash the old system?
Thanks!

Cool, that was my first guess as to what to do. But now the old lockup issue has returned. I had put my MBP to sleep for an hour or so. When I came back up from sleep mode, I got the black box in the middle of the screen with the "on/off" button and the message that I had to restart or shut down. On restart when I clicked "report", the following came up in the box:
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A49CB): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 1, Type 14=page fault), registers:
CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x017b6900, CR3: 0x00e1a000, CR4: 0x000006e0
EAX: 0x01610000, EBX: 0x017b6900, ECX: 0x00000420, EDX: 0x00000000
CR2: 0x017b6900, EBP: 0x25153c38, ESI: 0x00001000, EDI: 0x00000000
EFL: 0x00010202, EIP: 0x0017eaa9, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x03860010
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x25153a18 : 0x128d0d (0x3cc65c 0x25153a3c 0x131f95 0x0)
0x25153a58 : 0x1a49cb (0x3d2a94 0x1 0xe 0x3d22b8)
0x25153b68 : 0x19b3a4 (0x25153b80 0x18c296c 0x0 0x0)
0x25153c38 : 0x15df65 (0x423d220 0x1000 0x0 0x14185d)
0x25153c88 : 0x16214b (0x3f953e8 0x1801000 0x0 0x25153df4)
0x25153d28 : 0x16e29d (0x3f953e8 0x25153df4 0x3f909f8 0x1801000)
0x25153e78 : 0x37558d (0x1803000 0x0 0x3 0x0)
0x25153eb8 : 0x3481e9 (0x1801600 0x0 0xb88 0x0)
0x25153f58 : 0x37b300 (0x3fb67d0 0x48469a0 0x48469e4 0x0)
0x25153fc8 : 0x19b77e (0x483eea0 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x4133348) No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb0080be8
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.1: Wed Oct 10 18:23:28 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.25.20~1/RELEASE_I386
Model: MacBookPro2,2, BootROM MBP22.00A5.B07, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 2 GB
Graphics: ATI Radeon X1600, ATY,RadeonX1600, PCIe, 128 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 1 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 1 GB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
AirPort: spairportwireless_card_type_airportextreme (0x168C, 0x87), 1.2.2
Bluetooth: Version 1.9.5f4, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: FUJITSU MHW2120BH, 111.79 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-857D
USB Device: Built-in iSight, Micron, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, Apple, Inc., Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: IR Receiver, Apple Computer, Inc., Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, Apple Computer, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, Primax Electronics, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 100 mA
USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 250 mA
Any ideas on what's causing the error, or is this the same one that i see posted all over this site with no resolution either from Apple or anyone else?

How do I restore previous settings after archive and install?

I had to do an archive and install (with the box unchecked about users) on Friday after I had a kernel panic issue, but now I don't know if there is a way to restore my previous settings and access my previous files. I found the "previous system" folders, but it restricts my access to almost all of the folders, and I can't even find all of my music (iTunes) files or my stickies. I also can't find all of my bookmarks and internet settings. I'm totally panicked...there is a lot of information for my business that I really can't afford to lose. Please help me!

See the following:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107297.
The following can also apply to locating and moving data from a Previous System Folder. The "Home" folder will be /Users/shortname/ where "shortname" is the user account name you created.
Because you did not transfer the users accounts when you did the Archive and Install you may have created a new user account and password that is not the same as the one you previously used. This means the PSF has different permissions associated with it.
<font "size=+1">Folders You Can Move to Your new Mac
From the Home folder copy the contents of Documents, Movies, Music, Pictures, and Sites.
In your /Home/Library/ folder:
/Home/Library/Application Support/AddressBook (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Application Support/iCal (copy the whole folder)
Also in /Home/Library/Application Support (copy whatever else you need including folders for any third-party applications)
/Home/Library/Keychains (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Mail (copy the whole folder)
/Home/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist (* This is a very important file which contains all email account settings and general mail preferences.)
/Home/Library/Preferences/ copy any preferences needed for third-party applications
/Home /Library/iTunes (copy the whole folder)
/Home /Library/Safari (copy the whole folder)
If you want cookies:
/Home/Library/Cookies/Cookies.plist
/Home/Library/Application Support/WebFoundation/HTTPCookies.plist
For Entourage users:
Entourage is in /Home/Documents/Microsoft User Data
Also in /Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft
Credit goes to another forum user for this information.
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Archive and Install Hangs

I purchased a brand new MacBook and began installing software. One application would not launch no matter what I did so I tried all the usual troubleshooting steps and nothing worked. My final step was to attempt an Archive and Install of the OS to see if that fixed things. After inserting Install Disk 2 I got to the iWeb Application Installer Script and the final two minutes of the install and the computer hung. I finally forced the computer to shut down by holding the power button down and it rebooted back to the DVD and continued the install to about the same point where it hung again. So I started poking around and found several posts from users having the same issue, but outside of a post about Apple offering to replace their DVDs and a post about trying an Upgrade Install instead of an Archive and Install (which I'm trying now and will post back later with my results) I've seen no real solution for this. Is it possible that Apple sent out a bad series of Install Disk 2? Has anyone figured out how to get this to work?

to continue.....
I put the 'Bad' computer into Target mode, and from my Power Book ejected the Installer disc 2.
Came out of Target mode and 'bad' computer wants Disc 2 to complete previous Install.
Put in Disc 1 and before it has a chance to load, shut down with power button.
Start up again holding down 'C' key it boots from Disc 1, where I can start the Archive and Install process over.
This time I customise the Install files and uncheck iWeb, and the other stuff I don't want, such as Printer drivers and useless (To me) languages.
That Install still froze at the One minute to end mark, when it's writing iLife files.
I give up and eject disc as before, start over and Clean Install. Lucky I'd backed up my Home folder and apps before. The Clean Install works
This all started a couple days ago when I had a HD problem and clean installed, but somewhere along the line lost the 'Backup app', which led me to archive and Install in the hope of getting it back.
I now kick myself, having found it on .Mac 'doh'
17"Macbook Pro 2.16 GHz 2 GB RAM- PB 15"Firewire 1.25GHz, iMac Graphite Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Archive and Install limbo (G4)

I tried, all too long ago (actually, over the past couple of weeks) to do a full Archive and Install for Tiger on my G4 Sawtooth. I had originally installed the OS from disks (CDs) that I bought from what I thought was a reputed dealer. What I didn't know is that the disks were not the real Apple ones. Instead of being black, they are white, with a grey X on each.
I managed to install Disk 1 successfully (though it restarted at the end). That left on my hard drive just the folder called System that is within the System folder that holds all the OS components. When I tried to install Disk 2, it sometimes seemed to install all the components on the disk and sometimes only some, but it always ended in a message saying that errors were found and I needed to try reinstalling. I never get beyond that point. Now I'm in a limbo without a System that I can boot to and the ability just to get out and try to reinstall from a legitimate DVD of Tiger that I got this week. All I want to so is get rid of the stuff that was deposited on my hard drive. Until I can do that, I'm stuck with the error message. I can't even shut down the computer! It doesn't know that I have a system on it.
I can boot the computer into 9.2.2, but only with a repair disk that was lent to me by a computer repair place here in New York. I had hoped that I'd be able to boot up from the Tiger DVD, but that can't work while I have to use the CD/DVD drive to get into anything but the error message I mentioned above. Also, for some reason there is no sign of my Documents Folder, which has almost all of my files, nor any other OS X folder (except that System one that is usually embedded in the larger System one). I hope they are not gone forever.
There also is a folder called Previous System 1. That is the one that was on the computer before I started the Archive and Install process. I wondered what would happen if I renamed the folder that was installed by the Tiger Disk 1 and the Previous System folder, but I am afraid to try.
How to deal with this? By the way I have all the necessary software for OS 9, and now I have the new, legitimate Tiger DVD—though I can't boot from that nor do anything else with it until my computer recognizes that it has a hard drive and a System. If it would help, I could reinstall OS 9.2.2, but where would I go from there? And would it help, anyway?
A friend suggested removing the battery and resetting the PMU. I don't know whether that will do the trick.
I hope that you can help me. I'm kind of frazzled, after days and days of trying to do a full Archive and Install. Thank you very much, in advance.
Jenny

Thanks, but the firmware was updated, and I was already using 10.4.11. I managed to get back to OS 9.2.2, somehow, so I can use the computer a bit, but I don't have access to some of the data I had with Tiger. I really want to reinstall Tiger, and I'd be willing to get legitimate Tiger disks (so angry that I was rooked into buying the ones with the grey "X"), but:
1. Would it work?
2. Where would I get them? Clearly, I have no serial number for the disks, because they weren't real Apple ones (as I said, I didn't know that), so I doubt that Apple would help me. All I want is to get Tiger back.
I see, from this discussion group, that I am not unique in getting stuck on Disk 2, so maybe it's a problem with software and not my Mac. I don't know.
I've been working with a Mac guru of sorts, but we tried all kinds of things (taking battery out and doing the CUDA thing, for example, trying to do an install from Firewire, etc.). He even sent me a copy of a Tiger DVD to try. It didn't boot the G4 or even mount on the desktop, despite the fact that I can play other DVDs just fine. My G4 DVD drive spat it out, and my G3 laptop first was able to mount it and then boot it, but attempts at installation failed, with the computer hanging after installation started. Then the G3 also refused to accept the Tiger install DVD. Very mysterious, all of it.
I had already used Disk Warrior and the 9.2.2 version of Disk First Aid. That latter I did when the G4 was booted from a 9.2.2 troubleshooting CD from a place that repairs computers. (They gave it to me on another occasion, before I used Tiger.) I continued until no need for repairs was reported.
My guru seems to be out of options, and he is convinced that the Tiger disk he so kindly sent me has no problems on it. I am not altogether sure. Why, else, would my DVD drive willingly play whatever else I put into it but spit out that disk? Oh, well. I think the two of us are out of options. If anyone here has others, I would happily try them.
Best,
Jenny

Missing mail after "archive and install"

Hello,
I went to talk to the folks at the "genius bar" today because my powerbook fan has been blazing like crazy. I had OS 10.4 on my computer, which I had installed from an upgrade about a year ago. I bought the computer a few months before that, when it still shipped with OS 10.3. So the guy at the mac store told me to re-install the system using the archive and install feature and the original install disks. He told me to re-install 10.3, which came with the computer, and then to run the upgrade that I have to get it back to 10.4.
I am having some problems. I have reinstalled X.3 and find that when I open the Mail application, all of my messages of the last year are gone. I can't find them anywhere. But everything else on the computer seems untouched...all of my documents, and even old emails from before I made the upgrade to 10.4, one year ago.
I am afraid that if I do anything else, like install 10.4 that I will lose any chance of recovering these files. Does anybody have any advice on where I can recover the emails from my inbox and other folders? The guy at the apple store assured me that everything would be saved by clicking the "preserve users and network settings" option in the re-install program.
Or will everything show up again when I re-install 10.4? I was holding off on doing this because I wanted to see if the fan would run less using the older system, as someone suggested that I try this. I also tried to "import" the inbox in the library/mail folder, but this only imported all of the messages that I already have...not the lost ones.
thanks for any advice!
colin

Did the folks or this person at the "genius bar" also recommend that you create or update your backup before performing an Archive & Install?
If not, a "genius" he ain't.
The mbox filing structure used with Tiger Mail is significantly different than the mbox filing structure used with previous Mail.app versions under Jaguar and Panther.
Tiger Mail stores each message contained in a mailbox as a separate file in .emix format located within the Messages folder for the mailbox. Although you can import Jaguar and Panther mailboxes to Tiger, the mbox format used with Tiger Mail is not backwards compatible or interchangeable with Jaguar or Panther Mail without taking an additional step first. The reason you are seeing the old messages available before and up until the time you upgraded to Tiger is because you didn't delete the left over content package files used by Panther Mail and one of these files contains all messages messages and message attachments which are not automatically deleted after the conversion process to the mbox format used with Tiger Mail is completed.
Using the Finder, go to Home > Library > Mail > this POP account named folder (named by the user name and incoming mail server for the account). Within the account named folder is there an INBOX.mbox file and/or an INBOX.mbox named folder and the same for the other mailboxes (mboxes) within the account named folder?
Tiger Mail.app mboxes at the Finder level are folders and each folder contains a Messages folder which stores each message contained in the mailbox as a separate file in .emix format.
Jaguar and Panther Mail.app mboxes are .mbox files only, not a folder.

Archive and Install Mail Problem...could somebody please advise?

Hello,
I went to the "genius bar" today because my powerbook fan has been blazing like crazy. I had OS 10.4 on my computer, which I had installed from an upgrade about a year ago. I bought the computer a few months before and when it shipped with 10.3. So the guy at the mac store told me to re-install the system using the archive and install feature. He told me to re-install 10.3, which came with the computer, and then to run the upgrade that I have to get it back to 10.4.
I am having some problems. I have reinstalled X.3 and find that when I open the Mail application, all of my messages of the last year are gone. I can't find them anywhere. The most recent message is from May '05, when I upgraded from 10.3 to 10.4. I am afraid that if I do anything else, like install 10.4 that I will lose any chance of recovering these files. Does anybody have any advice on where I can recover the emails from my inbox and other folders? I will be very angry if they are gone for good, because the guy at the apple store assured me that everything would be saved by clicking the "preserve users and network settings" option in the re-install program. Furthermore, lots of older emails (pre-'05) have been saved, so it seems like the newer ones should be too. Or will they only show up when I re-install 10.4? I was holding off on doing this because I wanted to see if the fan would run less using the older system.
thanks for any advice!
colin

cdingler:
When you Archive and Install all your info is saved in a Previous Systems Folder. You cannot boot from this folder, but you should find your data and prefs there. Check out this article: Archive and Install.
Try this: Go to the Previous Systems Folder and to the User's Library. When you open the Library Folder, go to Mail. All your stuff should be in there.
PS: Never do any major procedure such as installation, erase and install, archive and install without a good backup of everything you can't afford to lose.
Good luck.
cornelius

Where is the "Archive" file from "Archive and install"?

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