Where is the customer service from VZW

Since February 19th I have been trying to Early Edge by eligible phone line and have been unsuccessful through the current day. What I finally got from Verizon Wireless after a 4th visit to the store was that there was a glitch in the Verizon Wireless software that controls validating that a device installment plan has fallen off and it is now eligible to enter a new device installment plan or edge agreement.
First on February 19th they told me it takes 24-48 business hours for the account to update so I got back to the store to find out that I still can't upgrade.  Then they supposedly discovered that I had to wait until the new billing cycle so that was the reason why I couldn’t complete the early upgrade.  The new billing cycle comes and goes as of the 7th and with no luck still not able to early edge because it still shows an outstanding device loan on my account, which was paid off completely on February 19th.  They even confirm it in their system but it wont let them remove it.  Now this is all while the special device that was being held for me (Gold Verizon Note 3) was sold without anyone contacting me to let me know.  This was after they promised to hold it back in February until my new billing cycle, which in theory should have been the date I could complete the early edge agreement.
So the store manager works and finds a store that’s willing to send him a gold note 3 that they have in inventory.  I made customer service over the phone and in the store promise that the device would be held until it could be added to my account.  Because the last time the store made the promise they sold the device and didn’t tell me. They didn’t even give me the courtesy of saying we had to sell it but we will work to have another in for you ASAP.  This is the abbreviated version of my still lingering frustration with Verizon because it is now March 14, 2014; 7 days past the start of my new billing cycle and they still have not fixed the problem. 
See below for more details that I sent to one of their customer service representatives via email:
Sent on March 12, 2014 at 11:18 AM
As I told you by phone I have been trying to make the change in device and use the early edge program since February 19th to no avail.  I want to more due diligence from Verizon Wireless when dealing with loyal customers.  You guys use to have a statement of “The First Time You Call It Becomes Our Problem.”  It seems that Verizon Wireless has done away with this mantra and replaced it with “No Matter How Many Times The Customer Comes In or Calls; It Remains the Customers Problem.”  I have physically been into the store 4 times each time spending more than an hour sometimes 2 hours or more trying to find out what was going on with my account.  I see that Verizon Wireless not only has a tendency to bounce its customers around from department to department over the phone but that they also do this to their store employees.  I believe my total years with Verizon Wireless is in excess of 10 as I started with Verizon just after the purchase of Primeco in the Daytona Beach Area.  I have found that as Verizon Wireless grows my experiences have become less and less stellar and more of a pain point.  I am a business and management faculty as well as a college administrator so I spend my days teaching others how to become great entrepreneurs and even greater organizations that serve the greater good.  One of my focuses is on customer services and the relations of the enterprise.  What I see is a company that has grown so big so fast that they have forgotten the cornerstone upon which their success was built. 
I hope that my message somehow makes it into a training that Verizon Wireless holds with its employees to remind them that you are a service organization that would not exist without customers.  This means that you return to your original mantra of taking on the responsibility for issues the first time a customer calls and not the 4th or 5th or even after they threatened to pick up the pin and publish journal articles or periodicals about the lax services of an organization to big to fail.  This also means that Verizon Wireless shouldn’t launch a program until they have "within reason" reviewed all possible scenarios.  It would seem that my particular scenario is not one that is so farfetched that it could not have been played out and properly addressed before it ever hit “main street”. 
In one of my classes I started teaching Customer Service 3.0 Predictive Services with Drive.  I designed this series to anticipate the customers needs based on recognizable patterns in their behavior.  This is not a new concept its just one that has been revived from the past.  One that Verizon Wireless should actively deploy across its operation. Long-standing customers have certain behavioral trends that can be categorized into a number of vats.  The most important lesson in my most recent interactions with Verizon Wireless that have soured my relationship is that no one within Verizon Wireless is willing to own mistakes until the customer explodes.  A simple phone call well in advance of the 7th of March could have fixed my biggest issue with Verizon Wireless and the local store in Daytona Beach.  A phone that was being held for me was sold and no one bother to call me.  The store made good by calling other locations to find that exact same phone and got it shipped and available on Monday but there is still something fundamentally wrong with not being accountable to the customer. When did this become the rule rather than an unacceptable exception to the rule?  If the district manager was in fact the person that made the decision to pull the phone and sell it to someone else then the district manager should have acted within the acceptable bounds of “Good Customer Service” and personally called the customer.  Our rank within an organization does not negate our responsibilities to admit ownership of our decision(s) even if there are consequences. 
I heard that another employee ordered the same phone from a Verizon store in Tampa and had been waiting and apparently they didn’t know whose phone came in. I know that this was a bunch of lip service because the phone that was ordered for me came from within the district and it was setup so that an employee could pick it up the next day and bring it to the store.  I know it was the phone that was meant for me because I was in the store that next day which was the first day we tried to activate the phone and learned that I had to wait until the new billing cycle.  Don’t try and insult a customers intelligence because you only serve to make a mild situation even worse. I was in the store when the the location that had the phone was called and it was staged for pickup by an employee that lived in the area but worked at the Daytona location.  My trust in an organization that would pull such a stunt and think that I would actually believe it drops lower than the approval rating currently held by the US Congress.  Lie to me and our relationship becomes nothing more than a guarded transactional one. 
My trust in Verizon Wireless has been destroyed by the actions of a district manager.  It does not matter how much effort the store manager Angel or even yourself have put into making it right the fact still remains there is a fundamental wrong that only the district manager could hope to fix through a written apology.  Because this person elected not to do so my resolve in no longer being a strong promoter of Verizon Wireless among peers and students is gone.  Because I now perceive Verizon Wireless to be disloyal to its customers and unwilling to admit fault.  You cannot offer apologies for the actions of a district manager nor can the store manager.  It would be the equivalent of me denying some student privileges that he/she was promised and passing it off on someone else because I don’t feel I should have to be bothered with it.
It is my hopes that Verizon Wireless returns to its fundamentals of quality customer service not just on the surface but also at the very roots of the organization.  The cost to acquire a new customer is much higher than the cost to retain an existing customer.  There are 112 textbooks that echo this sentiment.
The 112 books was an exaggeration I can only physically put my hand on 13 that are on my bookshelves. 

Nicely written, but alas it will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes.
The problem here is not the store manager, the district manager or the untrained personnel in the stores. It comes down to supply and demand and the act of securing customers.
You wanted to stay with Verizon, you were willing to purchase another device, the relationship is then you are purchasing goods or services to remain a customer. The snafu is your account was not updated. Then because the people you spoke to did not have an answer for the situation, they lied to you.
Not a good business decision on the face of it, however after being lied to, after having your device sold out from under you, your decision is now to proceed to get that device replaced and remain a customer.
The long tirade you wrote is more effective if you simply cancelled your relationship with Verizon Wireless and show you are a informed consumer via walking to another service who may value your money more. You will note I did not say 'Value You More"  since over the last few years customer services have rapidly declined at Verizon Wireless.
Profits for the shareholders ( yep my wife and I own a load of Verizon stock) and insane payments to the management are now focused on making money over the slight annoyances of a small minority of customers with varied issues.
You see 120 Million customers is what they are looking at. The shear numbers mean a few hundred thousand customers leaving or posting how unhappy they are is minuscule so until that 120 Million drop down to 60 Million or even less Verizon Wireless will not be in any hurry to placate you or 59,000,999 customers until the bottom line is affected.
I hope you actually get your device, I would be very surprised if they tell you another story on Monday  which 100 text books would not have any bearing on taking care of the customers.
Many times people can teach but in real life the world is not a text book. There are no flow charts to handle the scenario that get in the way.
Good Luck

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Amusingly I couldn't keep my old one as a back up....jobsworth, this was of course SKY guessing & hoping it would resolve the issue even if it is the first thing to do they were wasting my time because they 'knew' the connection socket wasn't a test one. He said if it still continues then to call SKY and tell them a BT Engineeer will need to fit a Test Connection socket as we knew anyway. IMO this was unbelievable because regardless of this being their procedure I was given the wrong advice from a so called proffesional Tech advisor and they could have sent a new router in the post as well as booking a BT Engineer = waste of my time.  I finally got an appointment with a BT Line Engineer who turned up knowing nothing about the issue, he did a copper wire test and it come back perfect, he said he's never seen a connection so fast. The Exchange is literally around the corner hence the connection is so fast. He said as the copper wire test was perfect that's him done now but he will change the connection socket to a test one.  Whilst fitting it he said it could be the socket as it's old & the connection might not be filtering through properly. Once fitted it dropped & connected again 5 times or more in front of his very eyes, nothing more he could personally do.  When the line engineer was originally booked Sky's advisor also booked a call from their technical support (higher up) to call me in the afternoon after the engineer had been to see if had been fixed etc. I confirmed the connection had dropped after the new socket was fitted so this completely rules that out.  Due to the history of the connection dropping before my original call, Sky's checks and a new socket of course it's time to book a Broadband Engineer. So the lady says "we've established there is no problems within the home so it must be between the home and the exchange so the last thing to do is book a BT broadband enginner". She says "I'll put you on hold a minute whilst I see what appointments we can get".  To me astonishement she says they need to collect some more data and will call back in the morning at 9:30am. So she calls me back and says they are not going to book an enginner because I have been connected for more than 16 hours now. Well that nearly made me choke in disgust and shock simply because their log history of the connection dropping confirms I have gone much longer connected. Not just that but it dropped 5+ times after the new socket was fitted and in front of the enginner that changed it. So if that isn't an advisor not giving a dam about the customer and attempting to save SKY money I dream that just happened. As you can imagine I told her what a joke that was and hung up the phone, absolutely ridiculous and I am sure the majority of SKY employees would agree.  The next day just as I knew it would the connection started dropping again as & when it likes, random as usual. So they actually book a BT Boradband Engineer this time, finally. So the engineer arives once again knowing nothing about the job making him the 3rd person to arrive in the dark about the job. He believed the problem was SKY trying to speed up everyone's broadband for a number of months now even if there was only a meg in it. Because of this apparently my dsl noise-margin  was set at 3 and that was too low. So after discussing noise margins with me he went back to the exchange, called SKY who agreed 3 was too low and changed it to 6. He called back and advised me it should be OK now and to give it 10 days for the line to settle. Rather than running at a fragile 24meg it would be a steady 16 now he said, which I could cope with as long as it didn't keep dropping off. Later that day my connection starts dropping again and I knew full well this has nothing to do with allowing the line to settle. So the SKY advisor goes through the notes that the engineer had made, he mentioned everything we spoke about apart from something that shocked me. He has put down that he couldn't do an Earth *something* test because there was young children about. To my amazement not once did he mention that and if he had my partner could have took them upstairs. However that was that and another Broadband Engineer was booked. He turns up making him the 4th person that knows nothing about the job so after expaining the issue he seems very enthusiastic about the job itself so that was confident. After doing the same tests as the 1st 'broadband' engineer he can't find any issues either, so he climbs the pole 50 metres away from the house. He took it apart, cleared a bit of corrosion but nothing unusual. Then he tells me he'll get SKY to monitor the conection, he has another job to go to annd he'll call back at 3. It got to 5pm and still no call or knock at the door so I called SKY who's customer solutions contact BT who say the the issue has been put down as 'resolved'. I confirmed my connection hadn't dropped since so I left it at that. Because I wasn't at all confident it was fixed it was fixed I kept joking with my partner by saying "Resolved" every so often because of the engineer not calling back and the stress it has caused.  Surprise, surprise, the connection drops again the same evening at just gone 7pm (Saturday) so I am straight back on the phone to SKY. Having to explain everything again he puts me on hold to discuss it with a colleague. They put all the notes from every case into a new one as previous one's have been closed as the engineer's claimed 'reolved' when obviously it wasn't. He explained that it is being 'Viper' escalated now as a complaint to BT because they have given 2 frontline Engineers to rectify the problem & they haven't. So they booked a more 'senior' engineer to come out. SKY advised he will be given all the notes from the case & when they get confirmation of the appointment they receive a reference. SKY then contact BT with that reference and explain everything verbally as well. Whilst booking the appointment & speaking with me the broadband connection goes and so the does the landline so we get cut off. This happens everytime they book and engineer. and 2/5 advisors haven't bothered calling me back to contine the conversation, this guy was the 2nd NOT to call me back. The day of the appointment arrives and because I wasn't called back & received no confirmation I call SKY to confirm who do just that.  I decided to discuss more discount with this advisor because I had only previously received a small amount because BT Engineers keep putting the case down as resolved. On the Saturday the advisor offensively offered 65p because he does as the computer tells him....pat on the back for him. Thankfully the lady advisor this time was more understanding and applied £20 which was at least something. She also said she would speak with her manager and call be back in the morning with some offers as an apolgy because the enginner would have been out and fixed the issue by then. I was also advised it's the last thing that could try as he is a 'senior engineer'.  The so called 'Senior' BT Broadband Engineer arrives and regardless of what SKY told me about it being 'Viper' or 'Hyper' escalated he was also pretty much in the dark. Well as you can imagine that is just the icing on the cake, lost for words. Anyway, he does his tests & says "Sounds like all they've done so far is climb a pole". So he climbs the pole & replaces the cable from the pole to the exchange still confirming everything is fine. There is nothing more he can do and says I will need to call them if it happens again and say "What do you want to do"....shocking to the least.  He put in his notes/suggestions to SKY; should it happen again, replace the equipment at the exchange or book another type of engineer. I NEVER got a all back the following morning from the advisor that said she would call back with offers even though she said "I always make my call backs"..........looks that way. Of course the connection drops once again, this time when I call & after having to explain literally everything again I get put through to 2nd tier techincal support (something like that). The lady explains that she needs to book a BT REIN Engineer, this was definitely what she said as I asked how it was spelt and since googled it too for an understanding. She said she would normally take my case on because of everything I have gone through & it would mean not having to explain it everytime but she is going on holiday and not back until September. She apologised a number of times on behalf of SKY and arranged a call back on 6th September (I think) to discount me further as an apology. So apparently the REIN Engineer is booked, she told me to unscrew the connection socked and plug the microfiliter directly into the test part of the socket. Whilst she's putting the appointment through the landline goes off  which we were taling on as well as the broadband connection going off. When she called back she assumed I was doing the connection socket whilst on the phone to her. Absolutely not, so I explaine that evertime an appointment is booked with BT this happens. A previous advisor told me that BT does and automatic line test upon booking which is why the landline & broadband drop. She was absolutely adament that this shouldn't happen but that was that & the appointment booked. The Engineer turned up  and would you believe it wasn't until I started chatting with him and he'd already started tests that he realised I was expecting a REIN Engineer. He then told me that SKY cannot raise a REIN Engineer they have to (Broadband Engineers) & there's only 2 in the whole of North *my area*. Well again, what do you do but laugh or cry?, I went for the laugh where my blood was boiling.  He also said that there is no 'Senior' engineer as such and also said "If he put in his notes about changing the equipment at the exchange, why didn't here"....exactly. So the Broadband Engineer goes back to the exhange calls SKY who allow him to change the equipment & calls me back advising it's all up & running. I aksed "If it happens again is there anyone I can call directly", he replies; "I don't know, we have a number specifically for BT and I just spoke to someone called Chris who doesn't think it's REIN  *Facepalm* .  This BT Engineer actually did his job properly but for SKY to say "I don't think it REIN after all that is well......lost for words. If I have missed anything out of all this mess I guarantee if it's not incorrect spellings & grammat it's just more awful, awful customer service from both BT & SKY whom are business patners lol.  So SKY.....Is the Issue fixed?What was it?Where's my further discount?What offers you got as an apology? bear in mind I already pay around £80 per month for everything after call charges. So after this shambles I hope it's FREE. Oh and what are the odds on someone calling me? because evertime I get through it's luck of the draw & most of the time it's BAD LUCK. Although I have already spent literally hours on the phone to you I am glad I have got this on the net now as it will know become common knowledge. I have also kept a personal copy in case the Thread is removed.  Regards.  

    Thanks for the info and of course the understanding, althought I am sure someone official browses it now & again my main aim was to get this out there. I had an issue a while ago with EA sports regarding their FIFA 15 game, to cut along story short I was incorrectly banned from their servers for apparently botting so I couldn't play online. Their customer service was diabolical, pretty much on par with this. After some research I found out they were the voted the worse company in the states so that said it all. After being passed from advisor to supervisor to manager and back again everything fell on death ears. So through Google I found as many sites & email addresses as possible and posted/sent my argument. It got as far as the EA president where it was all sorted and I was heavily compensated. If I hadn't of done that though I'd still be banned from their servers.  Will do exactly the same with this case, as everthing goes throught to someone as SKY in the UK it should be a dam sight easier than getting a reply from EA Canada etc.

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