Where is Tiger junk mail filter pref file located?

I apologize for the redundant post...I posted this in the Tiger/Mail forum but haven't gotten a reply.
I had to reinstall Mail from scratch after I upgraded to Leopard.
Can anyone tell me where the 10.4 junk mail filter pref file is located so I can try and drag it over to my Leopard install and save me the time of physically replicate the filer file.

There is no preference file but the file that stores all Junk Mail "learned" settings is the LSMMap2 file located at Home > Library > Mail > LSMMap2.

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Junk mail filter has suddenly stopped working properly

I have reset it twice, and put it in training mode. While training, it works just fine...catches the things it's supposed to and let's the safe stuff through. But when I switch it back to have it auto-filter the junk mail into the junk mailbox, it starts misidentifying everything again. Tons of junk gets through, it doesn't filter out the junk it does catch (leaves it in the inbox), and identifies things as junk that aren't - especially annoying for regular items that I receive.
Any ideas on why this has suddenly stopped? I haven't changed or adjusted any of the rules. I tried going in and changing up the identification colors just to see if that would help, but no luck.
I have three email addresses where I receive mail. Two are set up as POP accounts, and one is an IMAP account. It doesn't seem to matter which account is receiving the junk mail, and it actually gets worse with time rather than better.
Thanks for the help.

Are you really using Mac OS X 10.4.2, as your profile indicates?
There is probably some corruption in one or more of the files used by the junk filter. The following procedure should fix the problem:
1. Quit Mail.
2. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/.
3. Locate LSMMap2 and move it to the Trash -- deleting this file is what clicking the Reset button in Preferences > Junk Mail does. If you see an LSMMap file there, move it to the Trash too.
4. Locate DefaultCounts and move it to the Trash. This file keeps statistics about the number of messages that have been marked as junk, either automatically by the junk filter or manually by the user.
5. Locate MessageRules.plist and move it to the Desktop. This is where Mail 2.x stores all rules, including those used by the junk filter. If there is a file called MessageRules.plist.backup, move it to the Desktop too. You may also see MessageSorting.plist files there; this is where Mail 1.x stored the rules, and they are no longer used by Mail 2.x, so just move them to the Trash if you see them.
6. Look for the account folders. The name of each account folder starts with the account type (POP, IMAP, Mac), followed by the account username and the incoming mail server. Open each of the account folders, locate the Junk.mbox or Junk.imapmbox folder within it, and move it to the Trash if present.
7. Go to ~/Library/Mail/Mailboxes/. Locate any Junk.mbox folders there (their name may include the account name in parenthesis), and move them to the Trash.
Note: Messages in Junk folders with an .mbox suffix are stored locally, and will be lost forever as a result of doing steps 6 and 7. If there is a chance that you have legit messages there and you want to preserve them, move them to another mailbox in Mail first. Messages in Junk folders with an .imapmbox suffix are stored on the server and can be ignored (Mail will rebuild those mailboxes automatically).
8. Open Mail. As a result of removing the rules file, the junk filter will be disabled now. You may want to either tell Mail to go offline immediately after opening it, or shut down the Internet connection before opening Mail, to prevent it from downloading anything until the junk mail filter has been enabled again.
9. Go to Mail > Preferences > Junk Mail, enable junk filtering, and configure it however you wish.
10. Go online again if you went offline in step 8.
If the above solves the problem and you don't have any rules you'd like to preserve or recreating them is not a daunting task, just delete the MessageRules.plist files that were moved to the Desktop and be done with it.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user's home folder. You can easily locate any of the folders referred to in this post by copying the file path here, doing Go > Go to Folder in the Finder, and pasting the file path there.

Junk mail filter doesnt work.. what do I do?

Back when I was in 10.3.9, I was using Mail ever since we got this G5.. but then the Junk mail filter stopped working and Mail always hung whenever I was sent an EPS graphic.. so I said screw this and moved to Entourage. Been using that, but the Junk mail filter in THAT has stopped working.. and its annoying me. So.. I recently upgraded to 10.4.7 (now to .8) and I figured I would give Mail a try again. So, I load it up, it moves all my mail and accounts over.. fine. But the junk mail filter still seems to not be able to recognize all the spam crap I get as junk mail. What do I do?

Try this.
Go to Mail > Preferences > Junk Mail.
Deselect "Enable junk mail filtering".
Quit and re-launch the Mail.app.
Go to Mail > Preferences > Junk Mail.
Reselect "Enable junk mail filtering" and then select the Reset button at the bottom of the Junk Mail preferences window to completely reset the Junk Mail "learned" settings.
You can leave Junk Mail set to automatic when doing so. Using the Reset feature should work and the filter must be retrained but the filter learns quickly or should when working properly.
Regarding EPS graphic files, these have been known to cause problems with the Mail.app since the Mail.app displays all image/photo and single page PDF attachments inline or viewed in place within the body of the message which cannot be turned off.
If you receive EPS graphic files on a regular basis, take a look at Mail Attachments Iconizer.
http://lokisw.com/index.php?item=MailAttachmentsIconizer

OSX Lion Mail Server Junk Mail Filter blocks incoming mail from any Yahoo address

I have yet to be able to use OSX Lion Mail Server's Junk Mail Filter. I have several contacts who use (free) Yahoo Mail addresses. Whenever I turn on Junk Mail Filter, even at the Most Cautious setting, any incoming mail from Yahoo.com addresses do not make it into my inbox. I was told last year by an Apple Enterprise Tech Support contact that "..we're still having problems with that Junk Mail Filter, sorry, just leave it off for now.." WTH In the meantime, the good news is I'm not missing any incoming e-mails; but, I'm having to sort through and delete a few hundred spam messages each day.
Suggestions? Thanks in advance

I agree with the points made by Strontium90. If you have any PCs then Apple's mail/contacts/calendar software is a poor choice. Kerio Connect as a mail/contacts/calendar server would not only support Macs but would also do a good job supporting PCs running Outlook.
If you are going to become a pure Apple site, then you could use just the Apple software and this would be cheaper than using Kerio. For 30 users this might be a suitable solution, however even in a pure Apple environment many people prefer Kerio. For example I find Kerio much more pleasent when dealing with email addresses across multiple domains, email aliases, email group addresses, and so on. Kerio also has built-in email archiving, that is keeping a record of all emails. Kerio also provides a web-browser client for accessing email, calendar and contacts. It is worth noting that as standard Mountain Lion Server no longer includes a webmail feature. While I personally find the Kerio webclient rather ugly it does work.
There are some annoyances I have with Kerio, firstly they have always charged a 'maintenance' fee for their software. This provided access to software updates, and in the past also provided access to Kerio technical support. Unfortunately they now only let you make two (2) support cases per year for that cost, and you now have to pay extra for any more cases. Also while they added support for EWS (Exchange Web Service) to allow using Outlook 2011 for Mac as a supported email client, they did a poor job of this so that it does not work properly with any other EWS compatible client. This means it will not work in EWS mode with Apple Mail, nor with Outlook for Windows. While there are other ways to connect these other clients, this seems a foolish move and there have been plenty of requests to fix this.
Apple's Mail client uses EWS to connect to a 'real' MS Exhange server.

Junk mail filter doesn't work all the time

Why doesn't the Junk mail filter work all the time? I click on mail like from Best Buy or Omni Hotels to go into junk mail but hardly any of their mail goes into Junk. Other sites go directly to Junk. If I click on a Best Buy mail to indicate it's Junk, shouldn't that work 100% of the time forever and ever?

The Junk filter is based on an analysis of the content of the message. It ignores the sender. (Filtering based on the sender is an ineffective way of dealing with true spam, since spammers use constantly-changing spoofed addresses.)
If you don't want mail from a legitimate sender like Best Buy, unsubscribe from their ads. If that doesn't work, make a Rule to delete or move the messages.

Help. My junk mail filter is not working in Yosemite.

AAny suggestions for getting junk mail filters to work?

Well, after the latest update to Yosemite (version 10.10.2 (14C109)) Junk Filters seem to be working again. In the latest update I did not see mention of changes to Mail filters but i could have missed a note from Apple.
One caution, I have had to double check the junk mail folder a bit because the Junk Mail filter has restarted as if from the beginning. That is it has to relearn everything.
R

Junk Mail Filter in Lion: Any Better or Still Mediocre?

The junk mail filter in Mail is not that great. I have several domains that I receive mail from and I get about 90 false negatives per day. I select the spam generally and mark as junk mail, but that seems to do nothing. The same sender/same subject/etc. seems to get through every time. It does catch a lot of spam, but the effectiveness of "mark as junk mail". I am not convinced that marking the spam has any effect at all - maybe I shouldn't bother.
I am still running snow leopard and haven't upgraded to Lion. I am wondering if Lion has better permanent spam erradication.
thanks
JIim

Sigh... Jeffery and Michael, you are like the Apple Support people... you simply do not comprehend what is happening or what people are talking about.
First off, the O'Reilly article is from 2004... that's 7 years ago. If you want to believe that OSX has not changed in 7 years, that's your perogative, but it is clearly not in tune with reality. Nor with what Apple is selling. The article may or may not still be accurate... there is no way of knowing.
It would be nice if the Junk mail filter actually worked the way the O'Reilly article describes. I believe that it did back in Panther, when the article was written. And it might have still worked that way in Snow Leopard, but I do not believe it did. The last I remember it working the way the article describes it was in Leopard. Under Lion, the Junk mail filtering is simpy NOT WORKING -- period. It can't even recognize Junk mail flagged by either me.com or gmail.com.... despite "Trust junk mail headers in messages" being selected.... and BOTH of those sites have no problem flagging junk mail.
Second. Yeah, mail rules "sort of" work. The problem with them under Lion, the same as it was under Snow Leopard, is that they are simply NOT applied until you make a change to the rules and get the "apply rules" pop-up. The impression I get from Apple Support's non-responses is ... they are not supposed to be applied "automatically." Or, "they are working as intended," not as expected!
Tony's response is the most useful one I've seen so far.

Junk mail filter in yosemite doesn't work. i can't find the 'mark as junk' selection or 'remove from previous recipients' which would help to filter out spam.

junk mail filter in yosemite doesn't work. from the flags, i can't find the 'mark as junk' selection. Formerly clicking on the email address in question would allow one to 'remove from previous recipients' which would help to filter out spam. I've adjusted all the settings under mail preferences, but that is not helping.

Hello Diane162,
Welcome to the Apple Support Communities!
I understand that you would like to be able to filter some of the junk mail that you are receiving in Mail. The attached article has a lot of great information on junk mail filtering, including how to mark as junk and adjust the junk filter.
Mail (Yosemite): Reduce junk mail in your inbox
Cheers,
Joe

How to customize junk mail filter?

Is there a way to filter all mail coming from a particular email address? I am daily bombarded by multiple annoying messages from the same address, and mark them junk mail manually. However, Mail does not learn it and new messages keep on coming. It appears that it would be very easy for the program to filter out all messages from senders who were previously identified as spammers, but for some reasons this is not the case. The existing custom junk mail filter is almost useless, because the only advanced option is to mark mail junk if ALL custom conditions are met, and no way to add a specific person to the black list. Actually there is no black list at all, which would be the most obvious way to organize junk mail filter.
Does anybody know how to make Mail learn to filter messages that I mark junk?

The Junk filter is based on an analysis of the content of the message, not on the sender's address. If you want to filter based on address, use a Rule.
True spam comes from frequently changing addresses, and often appears to come from legitimate addresses, so basing the filter on address would be ineffective.
For a semi-technical discussion of the Junk filter, see http://macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/05/18/spam_pt2.html

Can't log in since junk mail filter

Since following the instructions on the improved junk mail filter, I cannot
log in to my email at all, from any of my macs-- macbook, imac or ibook.
Now I am wondering if this was a fake.

Hi Fern,
What instructions did you follow?

What's up with the Junk Mail Filter (all messages in Sent)??

Hi,
I've seen this question asked in a few different threads, but many of them seem to be dated back to September or October. Was wondering if there was any new light someone could shed on this:
I have a client who reported that all of her Sent Mail was going into the Junk Mail folder - and that she needs to "unmark" it before she can send it.
She is getting really frustrated by this, but I can see she's not the only one.
I reset her Junk Mail database a couple of days ago, but that did not help - now everything she sends is getting labeled as such.
I haven't seen a definitive workaround or fix for this - does one exist? Or does a rule have to be created in mail that says "any mail from <user@domain> is not junk"?
She is running an iMac G5 with 10.4.3.
Thanks!

The fix was: Turn off Junk Mail filter
quit mail
turn on junk mail filter
(and reset database for good measure)

Where can I find Mails auto address files?

Where can I find Mails auto address files?

Open Mail.
In the Window menu, select Recent Recipients.
Edit as needed. You can remove an entry directly, using the in-window button. If you double-click an item, the Addrss Book will open to that card's page.

Overzealous junk mail filter

I'm having trouble with Apple Mail. So much so in fact, that I'm ready to switch over to Entourage instead.
I used to love how far advanced Mail's junk filter was over the competition. It rarely produced false positives (tagging good mail as junk), at the same time, catching most of my junk mail. Recently however, so many legitimate emails are being tagged as junk. I find myself sifting through my junk mail filter after each check of my email, which sort of eliminates the usefulness of a filter in the first place. Messages from online vendors, in particular, are getting tagged as spam. Every online order I place, every eBay transaction, even messages from my bank, it's over the top. Every time I discover one of these false positives, I tell mail that it's not junk and move it to my Inbox before deleting it. Unfortunately, this doesn't appear to be helping.
I'd really like to keep using Apple Mail. Any advice on how to prevent false positives would be appreciated. Is there an easy way to create a whitelist?
Thanks in advance,
Dave

Spam doesn't get directed to your email address out of thin air.
When a spammer uses HTML that must be rendered from a remote server and you allow the HTML to be rendered, you are notifiying the spammer that your email address is "known good" causing more spam to be received.
Selecting a "remove me" link included with spam does no such thing and alerts the spammer that your email address is "known good" causing more spam to be received.
Using an email address in a public internet forum or providing it out in the open in any public manner on the internet will cause that email address to receive spam.
The email address used for online shopping is suspectible to spam depending on the merchant's privacy policies. Some state they take your privacy seriously when they do not.
Are any of these email addresses used for online shopping - namely with your iCloud account?
HTML included with spam rendered with any of these addresses - namely with your iCloud account?
Google has an excellent spam filter at the server level, but I can't say the same about Yahoo.
If someone is a regular Mail app user on a Mac with the included junk mail filter trained well along with accessing an IMAP account, it is a viable option to leave the Mail app on their Mac launched and running for junk mail to be filtered by the Mail app on their Mac. This will be reflected with accessing the account on a mobile device as well that doesn't have a junk mail filter.

Junk Mail filter can't handle high volume

I use Mail.app at work/school. Unfortunately, my email address there is [email protected], and because it's so simple spammers have taken to sending spam that looks like it came from me. So every day I get dozens to hundreds of bounces from their spam, and my school's spam filter only catches about a quarter of them.
Here's my problem: 75% of the time, Mail catches all the spam bounces and puts them in my junk mail folder like it's supposed to. But if I get a whole lot at once - usually the first time I Get Mail for the day - it screws up and dumps them in the inbox. They're marked as Junk, but I still have to go through and delete them. The other day, I checked my mail and got over 200 messages in my inbox, only a handful of which were not spam!
If only a few - say, less than 20 - spams come at once, it works fine. But more than that and I have to delete them from my inbox. Anyone know how to fix this? I've played around with the JM filter settings.
(And if anyone knows how to make the spammers stop faking my address, that would be great, but I'm not hopeful.)

No, those folders could only be a problem if they existed and you had something installed there.
I’m not positive you’ll be able to find a satisfactory solution to this problem because, as I said in my first post, it’s not uncommon for Mail to choke on those bounces and the user not even being able to delete them by normal means, but you may try the following in case there is something amiss here.
Verify/repair the startup disk (not just permissions), as described here:
The Repair functions of Disk Utility: what's it all about?
After having fixed all the filesystem issues, if any, and ensuring that there’s enough space available on the startup disk (a few GB, plus the space needed to make a backup copy of the Mail folder), try this:
1. Quit Mail if it’s running.
2. In the Finder, go to ~/Library/Mail/. Make a backup copy of this folder, just in case something goes wrong, e.g. by dragging it to the Desktop while holding the Option (Alt) key down. This is where all your mail is locally stored.
3. Locate Envelope Index and move it to the Trash. If you see any other “Envelope Index”-named file there, delete it as well.
4. Move any “IMAP-”, “Mac-”, or “Exchange-” account folders to the Trash. Note that you can do this with IMAP-type accounts because they store mail on the server and Mail can easily re-create them. DON’T trash any “POP-” account folders, as that would cause all the mail stored there to be lost.
5. Open Mail. It will tell you that your mail needs to be “imported”. Click Continue and Mail will proceed to re-create Envelope Index — Mail says it’s “importing”, but it just re-creates the index if the mailboxes are already in Mail 2.x format.
6. As a side effect of having removed the IMAP account folders, those accounts may be in an “offline” state now. Do Mailbox > Go Online to bring them back online.
Note: For those not familiarized with the ~/ notation, it refers to the user’s home folder. That is, ~/Library is the Library folder within the user’s home folder, i.e. /Users/username/Library.

How Can I Turn OFF Junk Mail Filter for IMAP Accounts Only?

I am trying to figure out how to turn off the Junk Mail filtering for IMAP accounts such as .Mac/.ME and GMAIL. All filtering is working fine on the server side, and reviewing the mail that is tagged is easy enough by just going to the account and displaying the folders created on the server.
I've checked the Junk mail pref and although the Advance settings let you isolate specific accounts to check, it does not give you the option bypass checking an account.
i.e.
if <Any> of the following conditions are met:
<Account> <is not> <Gmail (IMAP)>
As is, the mail rules are working perfectly on the server side, but in Apple Mail, many mails are being sent the Apple Mail's Junk folder.
When going through the Gmail's instructions on setting up a Gmail account for Apple Mail, it specifically says to turn off Junk mail filtering for the account, but I can't find any options to do that.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
TIA

I haven't tried this, but it should work:
Make a new rule,
If <Any> <Account> is <Gmail> or <Account> is <.me> then "Stop evaluating rules".
Move this rule to the last in the list of rules.
In the Junk Mail preferences, be sure that "Filter junk mail before applying my rules" is unchecked.

Where is Tiger junk mail filter pref file located?

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