Where (on the Sun site) are the TLD files?

Could someone tell me where I can find the c.tld tag library descriptor file for jstl.jar ?
I am unable to find the *.tld files for jstl.jar and other jsp libraries.
Not here:
http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jstl/
Not here:
http://java.sun.com/webservices/jwsdp/index.jsp
Not here:
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/download.html
I downloaded the j2eesdk1.4.1 , and the files were not in there. I installed the entire app server.
I already have 5 app servers installed on my machine. This is very annoying.
Generally, it takes me too long to find what I'm looking for on the Sun site. In this case, I can't find it at all!

Do you have the jstl.jar and standard.jar? If you rename standard.jar to standard.zip, open it up, look under META-INF, the tlds are there.

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being referenced by some web.xml file that I can't
find.
The JSTL stores it's template file in the
META-INF directory of its jar and then id's the tag
file via the uri tag in the template.
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