Where place cache and catalog with SSD

LR 5.2 RC, Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit. 24GB of memory on its way.
I just installed an SSD for my O/S applications and such. For Photoshop, I know what (hopefully) should go there.
I looked in here and found some discussions about putting cache and catalog on the SSD but previews on a separate HD.
Other than eventually wearing out the SSD, is there any reason NOT to put my heavily used catalogs and previews on the SSD with the LR cache? I can keep the stuff I rarely have to mess with on a separate HD, and of course, the images aren't moving, but it seems like previews would LIKE to be on the SSD...
Thoughts? Issues that would make it a bad idea?

Well, y'all, it took ONE DAY for my stupid human trick to bite me..........................
Regardless of what the various optimization scenarios tell you, DO NOT get rid of your pagefile!
FIRST TIME I fired up Photoshop, with one D300 image open (these are small, 12 megapixel images), and opened another, did an increase to the canvas size and tried to do a content-aware fill, I immediately go the "OUT OF MEMORY" popup.........
The only way I could do the fill was to kill PS CC, restart it, ONLY open the image I wanted to expand, do the fill, then shut it all down again...
Shortly thereafter, I created a medium sized pagefile on a separate HD and rebooted...
<still waiting, but not quite as patiently, for the new memory to arrive>

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When vectors shape are involved, RAM usage has nothing to do with file size
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Great, I do as well. There's no speed increase to page to a different drive when your FLA is 3~4MB. You have the rest of the drives space to page to. Unless you simply don't have enough space left after OS+apps to feel comfortable with a 5GB page. Perhaps you should let the OS manage the pagefile. Setting a final size used to be a performance trick but the OS will give you a good idea how much you're actually paging. That would answer your question on if you even need a whole drive dedicated to it.
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How to - move ACR cache and LR cache and catalog

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in the try of speeding things up a bit with my LR (v. 2.4 64 bit on Vista 64 SP2, E8650 proc and 8 GB RAM) I got an 2nd hand WD Raptor 150 GB 10K rpm, and I'd like to move there the ACR cache (around 60GB now) and the LR previews and catalogs (around 20 GB) . Which is the right and safer procedure to do that!? :-)
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Hi Scott,
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dorin_nicolaescu wrote:
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