Where's the intermediate and advanced guide to arch linux

i think some of us have finished reading the beginners guide already and would like a consolidated version of knowledge that would make up what would be considered as an intermediate and advanced guide to arch. (I know that there are many disparate sections on different aspects of managing the arch installation) So anyway, its just my suggestion, I can't do it myself as im still a beginner but would like to move on to more advanced stuff.

unregistered wrote:
Mr.Elendig wrote:
An advanced user shoudn't need a guide. He/she shoud know what he/she want/need to do, and where to look up the information on how to do it, himself/herself.
That's my twisted opinion, atleast.
yes, that is true but its not about ability or anything, imho its much more convienient to go to one place to get all the info than to go to google.com/the wiki/forum and type in what you want to search for.
After you have learned the basics, everything you learn means you increase your knowledge in a specific direction. This means that the knowledge itself grows exponentially from the beginner to the intermediate level, figuratively speaking. There can't be an intermediate guide to Arch. There can be a nice wiki which catalogs the knowledge, however. There can be How Tos, which explain how to reach a certain goal for every possible skill level.
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