Where to add 2 temp sensors?

My Antec P160 case has 2 temperature sensor probes that I can mount. Should I mount them as redundant sensors, perhaps for the CPU & GPU? Or would there be any value in trying to mount them on my 2 memory DIMMs, which have heat spreaders? Any suggestions?

Thanks for the excellent recommendations. I was a little nervous about trying to mount a sensor to monitor the nForce chip, which would have required applying tape across components on the motherboard. So I took the easy way out & mounted one sensor on the side of the XP-90 heatsink, with the tip as close to the CPU as possible, & the other sensor on the heatsink mounting backplate on the back side of the 6800GT. Both sensors stay around 30-31o C with the case closed, at idle. You can compare that to the readings I get in Speedfan & Everest (see screenshot).
I have no idea what Speedfan is reporting as Temp1 (ACPI chip, ISA Bus, Address $0). Any ideas?

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I have a MSI 845 Ultra (6398) MB with a PIV 2Ghz processor and I have just changed case to a ThermalTake XaserII 6000. The case came with an external temp sensor that "can be placed anywhere". The reason I changed case was that my temp readings was very high (CPU Idle 50C, stressed 72C, MB 40C idle, 46C stressed, HD0 62C, HD1 48C).
The XaserII 6000 comes with 5 fans and I now have the following readings: CPU 45-50C idle, 58-62C stressed, MB 31C idle, 35C stressed, HD0 35C and HD1 28C.
I managed to get the temps down substantially with the new board but I still think that the reading for the CPU is a bit high and since I understand that there are issues with MSI temp readings I thought that I would use the external temp sensor with the CPU and see what happens. The questions is where to I put the sensor (under the processor, between the processor and the heatsink (bad idea?), attached to the heatsink) to get the most accurate/true reading?
The XaserII lets me control the CPU speed (high, medium, low) and the question is shall I do this manually or shall I leave the CPU speed control to the board or to a program like SpeedFan?
Any input is higly appreciated.
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Hello.
My wife has a 15-inch, 2.4GHz MacBook Pro model 3.1 laptop.
All of sudden the screen started to flicker, and after that, it could no longer be booted. Applelogo visible but the timewheel stops and nothing happens.
I managed to get hold of a copy of ASD (Apple Service Diagnostic) for her computer, and I found out what was wrong:
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ERROR - Unable to read sensor
- TEST FAILED -
Temp sensor GPU 0 Die Temp test 8 - Sensor Noise Test
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- TEST FAILED -"
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type:            Temperature
location:            TG0D
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high-limit:        85
reading:            1.0
description:        GPU 0 Heatsink Temp
noise-tolerance:    1.0"
The thing is that the problem seems to be intermittent. It comes and goes. All of a sudden the test passes and I can boot the computer. Some days the computer can work for a whole day, so it doesn´t seem to be related to temperature.
What do you guys and girls think? Is this fixable by myself? Does anybody know where this sensor is located? Maybe it´s just a bad connection, since it´s intermittent?
I feel I have come a little bit on the way to be able to solve this issue, and it would feel like a failure to be forced to leave the computer at an Apple Service Center, if it´s even worth it to do that. There is a risk that the computer is not worth a repair.
Could someone please chime in here for a clever advice?
Thanks.
Bo Reimer.

Welcome Bo!
It may be related to a known problem with MBPs 3,1 and 4,1. Some had a bad Nvidea Geforce 8600M GT video chipset that could fail under high heat cpnditions. There is an Apple Repair Extension Program (REP) that will fix the defect at no charge for up to four years from date of purchase:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377
You'll need to have an Apple retail store or an authorized service provider check the computer with a special test gadget for positive ID of the problem to qualify. If it does, you get a new logic board. Reported turnaround for the fix is from same day to three days.
If their test does not turn up the Nvideo curse, you still have an affordable repair option if you live in North America (It would he helpful if you fill in the "Geographic Information" field in your profile--at this point I'm having to assume you're in N. America)).
The option is a depot repair. Apple sends your computer to their central refurbishment facility and bascially fixes anything outside of cosmetic damage for a flat fee of about US$315--much cheaper that a new computer. Taxes and shipping may apply.
People who have used this option are reporting excellent results and a turnaround of about one business week.

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I am trying to do Cold Junction Compensation using the built in temperature sensor on my SCB-68 connector block. I am using the 6224 M Series PCI DAQ card. I am having two problems:
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2. I've connected a type T thermocouple to channels 20 and 28 (differential). For CJC, I can set it manually by estimating the temperature in my office as 68 degrees and puting that value in the CJC Source Constant field. When I do this, the TC seems to work great. It reads around 68 degrees in my office, and more like 85 if I squeeze it between my hands. So, now I want to use the "TempSensor" global channel to do my cold junction compensation automatically. When I select my CJC Source as "Channel" and enter "TempSensor," I run the test and get temperatures of 176 degees F. What am I doing wrong?
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Dear Kevin,
There is a really easy way to test your thermocouple using the Built-In CJC of the SCB-68. The only time I set up a global channel for the CJC is to make sure that it is working correctly. The CJC temp does not indicate the temperature of your office, it indicates the temperature of the SCB-68 board. My CJC value is 2 degrees warmer than the room temperature. 75 degrees is a reasonable temperature to get.
After you check the CJC to make sure that it is working, you can set up the task in the Measurement and Automation Explorer (MAX). Expand Devices and Interfaces>>NI-DAQmx Devices. Right click on your device and select Properties. Click on the Accessory Tab and add the SCB-68 to the second connector and click Configure. Check the box for Reference Temperature Enabled. Click the two OKs to save your changes. Then create your thermocouple task normally and select your CJC source as Built-In.
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[NOT SOLVED] Acer D250 - where to get CPU temp info

I was wondering where to get CPU temp info other than acpi and lm-sensors...
laptop: acer aspire one aod250-1613 ("d250"), intel atom n280, bios v1.22, arch up-to-date, kernel 2.6.31
problem with lm-sensors: even though it is supposed to have support for Atom ( http://www.lm-sensors.org/changeset/5773 ) via coretemp ( http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11161 ), it does not find any sensors. emailed lm-sensors people + sent a message to kernel dev, hoping for an answer.
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tried solutions: Apart from trying to make lm-sensors work (tried modprobing all sorts of modules, then emailed their list reporting the problem: http://lists.lm-sensors.org/pipermail/l … 27432.html ), I spent a lot of time looking around in /proc/ and /sys/ for a file that would have a realistic cpu temp in it to no avail. also emailed linux-acpi email list http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-acpi/msg26078.html but I'll probably not get an answer.
behavior in windows: I downloaded HWMonitor (does not work in wine properly) from here: http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php It shows two temperature sources: acpi (which reports, as in Linux, the temp wrongly), and "Atom" (which correctly reports the temperature). So there is some sort of sensor in this laptop that is capable and able to show the temp properly...
contact with acer: no help there.
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EDIT:
I solved this [new update: I did not solve it as it turns out, see below] by downloading the coretemp.o module source file from kernel 2.6.32, putting it under a folder named Downloads, and compiling it with the command:
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.31-ARCH/build M=/home/user/Downloads modules
I then tried the module out using
sudo insmod coretemp.ko
It worked, so I moved the coretemp.ko file here:
/lib/modules/2.6.31-ARCH/updates/drivers/hwmon/coretemp.ko
The "updates/drivers" folder was already there, but I think it was created by the scripts of compat-wireless.
I then ran
sudo depmod -a
and placed the module's name in my /etc/rc.conf file
MODULES=(!snd-pcsp coretemp acpi-cpufreq !p4-clockmod ...)
If the coretemp module cannot be loaded after a reboot, take a look at compat-wireless scripts which create a /lib/modules/2.6.31-ARCH/updates/drivers/ folder --either the kernel automatically ignores modules with same name as those under ...../updates/ forlder, or it was compat-wireless scripts that did that. I don't know, try
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sensors
as well as through the file
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/device/temp1_input
and
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon2/device/temp1_input
Last edited by vajorie (2009-12-20 07:27:19)

it turns out that I couldn't solve this yet. funny enough, coretemp gets $ sensors to show *hdd* temperature... not the cpu. checked with hwmon utility that runs in windows.
I have no idea what to do, where to email, whom to ask... any ideas?
sensors output fyi:
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +37.0°C (crit = +90.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 1: +36.0°C (crit = +90.0°C)
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +26.8°C (crit = +100.0°C)
note to self: max cpu temp above is reported correctly, even though measurement is not cpu's temp...
Last edited by vajorie (2009-12-20 07:36:00)

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Anyone know where the KT6V LSR chassis temp sensor is? I am sitting here running Prime 95 on a new watercooled rig. Ambient temp si 22 C, motherboard monitor is reporting the chassis temp at 35C and the CPU at 38C. I love the fact that the CPU is this low under 100% stress, but cant imagine why the chassis is reporting 13 degrees over ambient. There is a fan blowing air on the mosfet and caps next to the cpu to keep them cool.

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Originally posted by Mr_Woodchuck
also because of electronics' ability to increase temp by 200% in under 10 seconds without any form of cooling, unless you've got a hurricane blowing freezing cold air over the cpu I'd say that having the cpu at ambient temperature is physically impossible
Did not expect to get to ambient. That was not my question. If you reread the original post, I am trying to determine the location of the sensor on the motherboard that reports the chassis temp. I am more than happy with my cpu temp of 38 C. I am trying to figure out why the chassis is reporting so high with the side off the case, and I have one case fan blowing on the area between the cpu and io plate to cool mosfets and caps since there is no wash now coming off of any cpu air cooler.

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Like others, my Neo2 is giving me wrong temp readings..
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I don't think that you could put it right on the core itself, i could be wrong but i would put it right next to the core or right on the heatsink as close to the core as possible.
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go here http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
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I've also read that the temp shown by the card bios is way off and probably why nvidia didn't enable it.
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