Where to place external temp sensor?

I have a MSI 845 Ultra (6398) MB with a PIV 2Ghz processor and I have just changed case to a ThermalTake XaserII 6000. The case came with an external temp sensor that "can be placed anywhere". The reason I changed case was that my temp readings was very high (CPU Idle 50C, stressed 72C, MB 40C idle, 46C stressed, HD0 62C, HD1 48C).
The XaserII 6000 comes with 5 fans and I now have the following readings: CPU 45-50C idle, 58-62C stressed, MB 31C idle, 35C stressed, HD0 35C and HD1 28C.
I managed to get the temps down substantially with the new board but I still think that the reading for the CPU is a bit high and since I understand that there are issues with MSI temp readings I thought that I would use the external temp sensor with the CPU and see what happens. The questions is where to I put the sensor (under the processor, between the processor and the heatsink (bad idea?), attached to the heatsink) to get the most accurate/true reading?
The XaserII lets me control the CPU speed (high, medium, low) and the question is shall I do this manually or shall I leave the CPU speed control to the board or to a program like SpeedFan?
Any input is higly appreciated.
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Last edited by vajorie (2009-12-20 07:27:19)

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