Which firewire external drive ?

I am running Snow Leopard and wish to find out which firewire drive I should use?

I am NOT a professional but spend quite a bit of time editing in FCE. Originally I had a 1tb MiniG but was so tired of seeing the beach ball..even after sending it back to the manufacture I replaced it with a OWC Mercury Elite-Al pro 1tb external and it has not failed since I have it.

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Time Machine backup with firewire external drive

I am having issues with a brand new firewire external drive and I am not sure if it is a drive issue, a configuration issue or what.
I have a 6tb Firewire hooked up to my machine. This is the drive which is being used as the destination for Time Machine. I have had this drive for awhile and seem to be having no problem with it and have not had an issue with Time Machine previously. I have a new added a second firewire drive (2tb) in daisy chain to the first (the 6tb). Whenever this drive is included in my TM backup profile, TM fails. Whenever I remove it, TM seems to work. I am wondering if the issue is the sequence of the drives (the TM drive perhaps needing to be the last in the chain), an issue with TM or perhaps an indication of a hardware problem with the new drive itself. Anyone got a clue?
Thanks.

Okay,apparantly no one else seems to be having this issue. That being the case then, how do I find a log file to get an error code so I can try to determine *why* Time Machine is failing?

FireWire external drives and bootable DVD's

I have 2 Mac Pro running 10.5.2 with all recent updates:
1) Mac Pro *****UXYL model MacPro3,1 (early 2008)
2) Mac Pro *****00PX model MacPro1,1 ROM de démarrage : MP11.005D.B00
On the second I can mount and boot with a FireWire external drive. I can also use an utility DVD or CD like DiskWarrior.
On the first one, nothing of this is possible : I cannot mount a FireWire drive only an USB drive. I cannot use CD or DVD bootables except of course Install Disks (version 1.1)
I tried to obtain an answer from Apple support without any success.
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The ROM has been reported in the past to be one element of the issue, but in general Apple has made it abundently clear that you can't install an older operating system on a Mac nor boot from an older operating system than the Mac than came with it in these two articles:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303315
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25517
And as far as I know no one has been able to downgrade the ROM to an older version than it shipped with either to force boot an older operating system.

Sharing a Firewire external drive over Ethernet

Sorry, this should be in the "Networking" forum, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO EXIST. . .
Have 500GB Firewire external drive hooked to G5 for backup. Just want to have it mount our other Mac's desktop so they can also use it over the network for backup. I CANNOT find ANY WAY to do this glaringly obvious desired feature within OSX!!!
WHY isn't there a "Share this Drive on the Network" checkbox in "Get Info"? So you could easily share any USB or Firewire storage device instantly!
Thanks!

Sorry, this should be in the "Networking" forum, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO EXIST. . .
Have 500GB Firewire external drive hooked to G5 for backup. Just want to have it mount our other Mac's desktop so they can also use it over the network for backup. I CANNOT find ANY WAY to do this glaringly obvious desired feature within OSX!!!
WHY isn't there a "Share this Drive on the Network" checkbox in "Get Info"? So you could easily share any USB or Firewire storage device instantly!
Thanks!

Want to use a Firewire external drive as my boot drive, few questions thoug

I have an old second gen ppc mini. My hard drive just died. It's been on it's last legs for months, but today it finally stopped booting totally. Ran a hardware test and the drive is bad.
Instead of having to open it, I'd rather just buy an external firewire drive. The prices are easily comparable to an internal anyway. That brings up a few questions.
1. From research on the apple discussions and just good old google, I'm finding it's mostly viable to use an external drive as a boot device, anything I should know?
2. From what I remember, when OS X is installed, the installer asks for drive to install OS to. If I select the firewire drive will it then remember that drive as the boot device, after the install is finished? I don't want to have to select it each time the machine reboots.
3. What happens with the bad internal hard drive? Can it just stay there? Since it's bad will it interfere with the mini operation? I'd rather not have to open the case.
4. Anything special about the external drive that I need to know? I found this one on buy.com...
http://www.buy.com/prod/fd-titanium-ii-firewire-usb-2-0-hard-drive-320gb-7200rpm -ieee-1394a/q/loc/101/203405880.html
Any problem with that one?
I guess if there's anything I'm not thinking of, please let me know.
Thanks...

If I were going to use an external hard drive, I would buy the case from http://www.macsales.com (one example is http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MEFW91UAL1K/ ) then buy a hard drive and put it in. The hard drive, depending on manufacturer, will have either a 3 year or 5 year (Seagate is the only one warrantied for 5 years) warranty, unlike the prepackaged units that have a 1 year warranty. Also, if you can get an external case which uses any of the Oxford chipsets, they work well with our macs. Also, some people like the ministack for mac mini usage: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ministack/
You can define in system preferences, in startup disk, which hard drive you want the system to boot from.

Quicksilver G4 will not boot from a cloned firewire external drive.

Hi all,
Just as the subject line says. I know this is a problem for many PPC users. I simply want to erase the HD so I can sell this Mac. In order to do that, I need to boot from an external source. I do not have the original disks that came with this system long ago. I have Panther and Leopard disks (10.5 is the terminal OS for this non Intel based Mac)... but neither of them will boot this Mac... I've tried. I've used a WD firewire drive as well as a Maxtor, but no luck. I've cloned the entire internal drive using Super Duper, with the external HD first formatted to Mac extended format. The system recognizes both drives and they even appear in the list of 'start up discs' but no matter what I choose or even 'option C' or 'command-option P-R' on start up, will not get this sucker to boot to anything else except the internal drive. The Mac also has a second internal drive, which was wiped easily. Is there any clever way I can make this work so I can erase the main drive and prepare the Mac for sale? I've researched this a lot and for some reason, many of these PPC's are fussy about what type of external drive they will boot to. My understanding is that Firewire is the only way to go. Thanks... MIke

That Leopard Disc should work...
2Z691-6037-A Mac OS X Version 10.5.0 Leopard...
Compatible with eMac, eMac (ATI Graphics), eMac (1.0 GHz G4), eMac (USB 2.0), eMac (2005), iBook G4 (Mid 2005), iMac G5 17-inch (ALS), iMac G5 20-inch (ALS), iMac G5 (17-inch iSight), iMac G5 (20-inch iSight), iMac (Early 2006 17-inch), iMac (Early 2006 20-inch), iMac (Mid 2006 17-inch), iMac (17-inch Late 2006 CD), iMac (17-inch Late 2006), iMac (20-inch Late 2006), iMac (24-inch Late 2006), iMac (20-inch Mid 2007), iMac (24-inch Mid 2007), Mac mini, Mac mini (Late 2005), Mac mini (Early 2006), Mac mini (Late 2006), Mac mini (Mid 2007), Mac Pro, Mac Pro (8-core), MacBook (13-inch), MacBook (13-inch Late 2006), MacBook (13-inch Mid 2007), MacBook (13-inch Late 2007), MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, MacBook Pro (17-inch), MacBook Pro (15-inch Glossy), MacBook Pro (15-inch Core 2 Duo), MacBook Pro (17-inch Core 2 Duo), MacBook Pro (15-inch 2.4/2.2GHz), MacBook Pro (17-inch 2.4GHz), MacBook Pro (Early 2008), Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver), Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver 2002), Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver 2002ED), Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors), Power Mac G4 (FW 800), Power Mac G4 (Mirrored Drive Doors 2003), Power Mac G5, Power Mac G5 (June 2004), Power Mac G5 (Late 2004), Power Mac G5 (Early 2005), Power Mac G5 (Late 2005), PowerBook G4 (1GHz/867MHz), PowerBook G4 (12-inch), PowerBook G4 (17-inch), PowerBook G4 (12-inch DVI), PowerBook G4 (15-inch FW800), PowerBook G4 (17-inch 1.33GHz), PowerBook G4 (12-inch 1.33GHz), PowerBook G4 (15-inch 1.5/1.33GHz), PowerBook G4 (17-inch 1.5GHz), PowerBook G4 (12-inch 1.5GHz), PowerBook G4 (15-inch 1.67/1.5GHz), PowerBook G4 (17-inch 1.67GHz), PowerBook G4 (15-inch Double-Layer SD), PowerBook G4 (17-inch Double-Layer SD), Xserve, Xserve (Slot Load), Xserve (Cluster Node), Xserve G5, Xserve G5 (Cluster Node), Xserve G5 (January 2005), Xserve G5 (January 2005 Cluster Node), Xserve (Late 2006)
http://www.welovemacs.com/2z6916037a.html
Does it still not boot from that Disc?

Bootcamp Win8, not recognize Firewire external drive VIA Thunderbolt.

Hi.
I am using Boot Camp Windows 8. I have an external drive (firewire) which I have connected to my thunderbolt display. The thunderbolt display is connected to my rMBP. I am unable to see my external drive. Could someone please offer me some assistance?
Thank you.

yves-k wrote:
You cannot use external drives to install windows using bootcamp on them as your mac won't let windows boot on an external drive sry...
Windows does not boot from an external drive, doesn't matter whether it's a Mac or a PC.

A Firewire External Drive to use as Bootable drive?

Hello fellow Apple enthusiasts,
1.1 I was hoping one of you might care to suggest how would I go about using my Firewire (FW) drive as a bootable drive?(I believe during restart I press the "T" key to initialize this process)
It is a 120 GB drive that I have partitioned into 2 parts a 30 GB which has my apps, etc, and an 80 GB section with work files.
1.2 Should I just use an app like Super Duper to clone my G3 and iBook HD's? (hmmm maybe just one of them) But that would limit my ability to use the FW for all and any HD's
1.3 I do have a bona-fide edition of Tech Tool 4, should I make an "eDrive" on the FW to reboot from? or install Tech tool on the FW as an app itself?
1.4 Or possibly one of you may know of a better suggestion to make a part of the Firewire drive a drive that can rescue other Macs, namely my own

1.1 I don't think 'T' is what you're after - that will boot your computer as an external FW drive.
Given a bootable FW drive, you can either (1) choose it as your Startup Disk in System Preferences, or (2) hold down the Option key while restarting/booting and choose the drive from the options displayed. I believe that (1) is recommended but there might be situations where (2) is the only option.
1.2 I'm not sure what you mean by "limit my ability to use the FW for all and any HD's". Do you want to use the drive to backup all your computers?
It is perfectly possible to clone a HD to a partition of an external FW drive. To do this, you can partition the FW drive in Disk Utility making sure that the partitions you plan to clone to are big enough, of course. Doing this will erase any data on the FW drive, however, so be sure to back it up. Some people also recommend writing zeros over the disk before proceeding. Again, Disk Utility has options to do this. When you partition, make sure that you choose the same type of file system as you're using on your macs.
I've never used Super Duper, but Carbon Copy Cloner will certainly let you create a bootable clone a HD on a partition of the FW drive. I use it for this purpose and have happily booted from the clones when necessary. If you consider CCC, be sure to read the documentation - especially "B4 U Clone" - so that you prepare the external drive correctly and take the steps you need to to ensure a successful cloning operation. For details see http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html. Note that the latest version is only for 10.4/10.5, but the earlier version is suitable for 10.2/10.3. I believe the latest version does a very good cloning job. The earlier version does not copy all the extended attributes etc. that you may care about. On the other hand, I have certainly restored successfully from clones made using the earlier version.
Super Duper has an excellent reputation and is supposed to copy extended attributes etc. nearly flawlessly. I can't speak from experience in this case, though, and I don't know how flexible it is in terms of allowing clones to partitions etc. as I've never used it.
1.3 Sorry, can't answer this - I don't know what you're referring to.
1.4 Only that if Super Duper can't do what you want, CCC probably can. Whichever you use, be sure to read and follow the instructions and to test the clone by booting and working from it to assure yourself that it really is satisfactory.
Good luck.
- cfr

Can't boot from my firewire external drive

I have a 80 Gb LaCie firewire drive where I have installed (since Phanter) an operating system. All things were OK until I updated the system to OS X 10.4.10 in my G3 iMac (slot-loading). Since then I was unable to boot from the external drive. I had updated the drive's firmware, installed OS X 10.4.10 in it, but nothing has solved my issue. Can anyone help me with this?
Helder Monteiro
iMac G3 slot-loading Mac OS X (10.4.10) iBook G4 - 10.4.10

Helder,
I apologize if I sounded like I was finding fault with your use of English, which I think you use very well. My own abilities with any foreign language are embarrassingly poor ... & I'm not that great with my native English one either!
My concern was that we were not communicating well enough for me to understand your situation well enough to suggest anything that would not make things worse. I'm still not entirely sure of that but let me review what I believe it to be before proceeding:
You have a LaCie external hard drive that both your iMac & PowerBook recognize when either is started up from its internal copy of 10.4.10. With either one, the drive mounts & you can read & write files on the external without problems. The only problem is neither Mac will start up from the external drive, which has a copy of 10.4.10 installed on it in the same way as with your Mac's internal drives, that being booting from the Tiger installer disk, installing the base version of the OS on it & then updating it to 10.4.10 with some succession of Apple updates downloaded from Apple. You have also tried the PPC version of the 10.4.10 combo update. None of this has resolved the problem.
If this is all true & accurate, then I suggest you start by attaching the drive to one or the other Mac while booted normally & seeing if the external drive appears as a choice in System Preferences > Startup Disk. You do not have to select it if appears; the test is just to see if the Mac recognizes it as having a valid OS version. If it does appear in the list, hover the mouse pointer over it until a popup box appears, which will tell you the version of the OS installed.
If it does not appear in the list, it means there is no valid version of the OS installed. If it does, you could try selecting it & restarting, but I suspect from what you have said, it won't work -- the Mac will display a question mark for a while on startup, eventually give up on the drive & start from the internal one. (If so, don't forget to reset the startup disk to the normal one to speed up future restarts.)
Either way, launch Disk Utility & run the "Repair Disk" function on the external drive. If it finds anything wrong, continue to repeat the repair until it passes. If it reports failure, stop & report that here before continuing.
If the drive was recognized in the system preference, also run the "Repair Permissions" step. (if not, it is unlikely this will be an option.) If the drive passes both tests now, try booting from it again by whatever method you prefer.
If it does not work now, I think you will have to reinstall the OS. If you have room on the drive, an Archive & Install will probably work. If not, you will need to consider "cleaner" install methods, which we can discuss if you wish.
Good luck!

How do you put a back up system on a firewire external drive?

I was taking my new MacBook in to the genius bar to diagnose a possible defective USB port. I wanted to clone the entire hard drive to an external drive for a backup. To do that, one must start up from the external drive. I tried to install a startup system from the install disks that came with the computer. This was not permitted. I assume they can only be used for a restore. I tried to clone the drive directly but the resulting system would not boot. I used my Tiger install disks from my previous system on a PowerPC iMac to install to the hard drive but there was no way to update this system to an Intel version. It does not seem reasonable that I should have to buy new copy of Tiger(Intel) to do this type of backup. There must be a way.

"... I wanted to put a simple clean install on an external drive before cloning. There seems to be no way to do that without purchasing a new copy of the OS."
That is correct. At any rate, a "clean install" would not be a backup of your "existing" system and therefore, would not serve any real useful function.
"It was my understanding that a correct clone could only be made after booting from an external source. Otherwise the active system files would not be copied correctly."
Completely untrue. Cloning does not involve any files loaded into RAM. It just copies files from the HD. Cloning your "active" system will give you a true backup as it will preserve all of your settings, updates, apps and any other mods you have made.
Follow the instructions posted above by "cornelius" and you will have a bootable backup that is an exact copy of your system as it currently exists. Of course, any changes to the system made after cloning will not be saved on the backup copy. For this reason, I re-clone my system every time I add, remove or change anything of importance (this is in addition to my data backups which are done separately).

Using a firewire external drive for Raid

Hi
I posted a question related to this earlier but not specifially on this topic, hence this post.
I was watching Lynda.com video tutorial for servers and noted how easy it seemed to set up a raid solution. However since I am going to use a mac mini for a server I cannot have two harddiscs in it. However I can have a firewire external disc as well as usb 2.0 discs. I figure usb is way to slow, but the firewire should be fast enough..so my question is..can I just buy a firewire disc connect it..use diskutility and set up a raid? Or is there something special I need to concern myself with here i.e special type of external disc etc?
It would be supercool if I could do it this way. Might add, this is low traffic personal server and not a critical server at work..still would be nice with raid though. Then I would do time machine via the usb to an external disc.
Cudos to everyone on the list for all your help.

slightly better than a daisy chained raid array is a multiple bay external firewire enclosure that either offers hardware mirroring or can be mirrored in software. i've used these on client servers before, and they generally work fine.
please be sure to consider the pros and cons of running a mini as a server 24/7, as the 2.5" internal drives aren't generally made to do such things. i usually discourage using minis as servers unless budget or other circumstances prohibit something better.

Scratch Disc Questions using Firewire External Drive & Imac

Hello. I've read through the existing questions regarding scratch disc and Photoshop, yet can't seem to find an answer to my questions. I would greatly appreciate any tips/advice. Here is my setup and situation:
I am running an iMac with a 2.16 intel core 2 duo processor, 3 GB memory, and running OS X version 10.6.4. I am currently using versions cs3 and cs4 of Photoshop, but plan to upgrade to cs5 soon.
The problem I am having is when running Photoshop, my computer becomes very slow. After reading about possible reasons, I came across a couple of sources (including Adobe themeselves) mentioning that the scratch disc should be a designated drive seperate from the drive containing the operating system. Since I am using an iMac that only allows for one internal drive, my only apparent option seems to be an external drive.
Many people say don't use an external drive, but if you are going to; use an eSATA or firewire. The imac does have firewire 800 capabilities. Should I consider this?
Now I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to purchase a macbook for my next computer (what I wanted to do) because it will also only have one drive, not allowing for a seperate drive for the scratch disc. Any thoughts? I've read around the net but haven't found any definitive answers.

Designer,
Photoshop benefits greatly from having a scratch disk on a separate physical drive, not on the boot disk or on another partition of the boot disk. It's almost not worth connecting via Firewire 400 because the transfer limitations don't allow much performance improvement. But using a Firewire 800 connection gives excellent performance.
Running Photoshop on a one-drive machine is a little frustrating due to the performance hit without the separate scratch drive.
Rich

Using older firewire external drive

I recently got a new 21.5 iMac and want to hook up and older external drive from om older iMac (the one that looks like the PIXAR lamp). The drive is an Apple drive. I bought a new 800/400 cable and tried to connect it. Nothing shows on the desktop of the new iMac. I had no problems at all using the USB port for my other external HD. Am I missing something?

The drive is powered up fine, it does not show up on my desktop or anywhere else on the new Mac. I am wondering if it has something to do with new Firewire connection configuration. Once I attach it to the old system it shows up at once.

Can't get FireWire External Drives to Show on Network

Ok I'm stumped and I'm feeling really foolish. I'm sure I'm missing something basic here, but I can't get it. Maybe one of you can see the issue.
So. The setup:
The computer "out back:"
G5 w/10.3.9
Exabyte 1U Packet Loader via Firewire 800.
In the Firewire chain after the packet loader: two LaCie d2 Firewire hard drives, both connected via FW 800.
The "other" computers:
An array of G4s with either 10.3.9 or 10.4.9. All connected via ethernet.
Here's the issue: when I had the two firewire drives connected to another (G3 Blue and White on 10.3.9) machine, I could go to "network" connect via the admin name/password, and the two external firewire drives would be options for me to connect to. Now, I can connect fine to the "out back" computer, connect with admin username and password, and see the computer in all it's glory just fine. BUT no drives. Not even an option. No access at all.
I can see the two drives on the desktop of the "outback" computer just fine. Retrospect sees them just fine, because I use that to backup one drive to the other. But no network access.
What I've done:
Checked ownership on the two drives. Set to "read and write" for everyone.
Repaired permissions, redid the combo update. repaired permissions again.
Turned sharing off and back on again.
Thoughts? Questions? What am I missin' here? What else do you need to know?
Thanks!
Brian
G4s and G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9)
G4s and G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Ok that was a quick fix...
First: I was having no problem seeing the drives on the machine they were attached to.
Second: I was having no problems finding computers on the network.
BUT: I was having problems seeing the FireWire drives from the network, something I had been able to do before with no problem.
SOLUTION: I had "Windows Sharing" turned ON in the Sharing Prefences Panel. Once I turned that off, and just had "Personal File Sharing" turned on, it worked just fine.
Thanks for all your help!
Best
Brian
G4s and G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Sleep and a firewire external drive?

I was wondering the correct way to put my eMac to sleep with a new external drive. Do I eject the external drive and then put the eMac to sleep or can I just leave the external drive going when I put the eMac to sleep? I don't want to screw up my new HD.
eMac 1.25 gHz Mac OS X (10.3.9) 768 MB RAM, 30 GB internal drive, 160 GB firewire external drive

Bob:
I think since you're hard drive is connected via Firewire, it's safe to keep it turned on and then in your "Energy Saver" System Preferences select "Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible."
Notice the "(s)"

Which firewire external drive ?

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